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| openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/governance master: Add a "docs:install-guide-verified" tag https://review.openstack.org/445536 | 14:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/governance master: Add a "docs:install-guide-verified" tag https://review.openstack.org/445536 | 16:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed openstack/governance master: Add Golang CTI https://review.openstack.org/410355 | 17:36 |
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| dmsimard | dtroyer: a noob cliff question -- is it generally possible to pass down an attribute from the cliff App down to a Command ? Say -- in initialize_app I define "self.something = 'foo'" and then access that later ? | 18:40 |
| dmsimard | access that later --> in take_action() for example | 18:41 |
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| dmsimard | or perhaps from prepare_to_run_command instead of initialize_app. | 18:42 |
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| dmsimard | oh, darn, everything is magically accessible through self.app :( | 18:53 |
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| mordred | fungi: ttx asked a quesiton and I responded (twice) on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446426 - I'd love your take/opinion | 21:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | amrith proposed openstack/governance master: Draft statement on PaaS applications https://review.openstack.org/447708 | 21:46 |
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| mordred | amrith: oh my - that seems like it'll find up being fun | 21:49 |
| amrith | I aim to make fun :) | 21:50 |
| amrith | mostly of myself | 21:50 |
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| mordred | amrith: it's like we're the same person | 21:50 |
| openstackgerrit | amrith proposed openstack/governance master: Draft statement on PaaS applications https://review.openstack.org/447708 | 21:50 |
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| amrith | well, I didn't realize that you like to make fun of me ... | 21:51 |
| amrith | duly noted :) | 21:51 |
| mordred | amrith: nicely said | 21:51 |
| amrith | how be you? I have some critter in my attic that's driving me crazy, am going to find out what it is and see if I can't fix that problem quickly. bbiab | 21:52 |
| clarkb | do people really care where $deliverable comes from as long as its 1) supported 2) gets the job done 3) has a compatible license? | 21:52 |
| clarkb | (that is re the shade thing) | 21:52 |
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| fungi | mordred: i've replied with prior art | 21:53 |
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| clarkb | fungi: also stackforge | 21:54 |
| mordred | amrith: I have had a critter in my attic - fixing is important! | 21:55 |
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| cdent | I had a racoon give birth to several babies in a chimney once. They made a hell of a racket, but I was rewarded when, as I sat at my desk looking out the window I got to watch the mom carry each baby, one by one, off the roof, down a tree, across the lawn, and into a barn. | 21:56 |
| cdent | Later I visited them in the barn and they were cool. | 21:56 |
| mordred | clarkb: in this case, there are some folks who are starting to use it alongside openstack installtions (and as part of) so are asking for release management / etc to be aligned | 21:56 |
| mordred | clarkb: I think most of the ACTUAL problems go away with restification | 21:56 |
| mordred | since then you don't have conflicting lib version requirements | 21:57 |
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| clarkb | mordred: I guess those problems seem orthogonal to me | 21:57 |
| mordred | fungi: thanks! | 21:57 |
| clarkb | you can get release management and dep synchronization/restification regardless can't you? | 21:58 |
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| mordred | clarkb: regardless of which bit? | 21:58 |
| clarkb | where it lives | 21:58 |
| mordred | clarkb yes I thin kso | 21:58 |
| clarkb | and if its "openstack" or "openstack infra" | 21:58 |
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| mordred | but I can see both sides on this one, so I 'd rather people who aren't me express themselves | 21:59 |
| fungi | for me, it's more that we try to maintain a separation between tooling under infra's purview and run-time dependencies of "openstack the product" | 21:59 |
| mordred | (I'd rather not rename, just because I have a bunch of msucle memory) | 21:59 |
| clarkb | (also semi related but does it not occur to anyone else that its a terrible thing that openstack needs shade to talk to openstack?) | 22:00 |
| fungi | the new team formation for shade/requestsexceptions/oaktree i mean, not renaming (eww, renaming!) | 22:00 |
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| cdent | clarkb: known bug, yeah? | 22:05 |
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| clarkb | cdent: ya I think it fits into the general idea that shade is itself a bug. Just frustrating that we seem to be making negative progress on fixing the bug (as evidenced by needing to further accomodate the needs of shade users to include openstack itself) | 22:07 |
| cdent | yeah. there are multiple layers of impedance mismatch or something | 22:09 |
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| clarkb | to be clear thats not something shade can control directly and it should do what is necessary to help its users be successful. | 22:32 |
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| cdent | mordred: gold star for oubliette | 22:59 |
| mordred | cdent: \o/ | 23:00 |
| cdent | such a fine word | 23:00 |
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