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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/governance master: Follow-up to castellan under oslo https://review.openstack.org/451131 | 01:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/governance master: make the docs for goals consistent https://review.openstack.org/451134 | 01:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/governance master: Add zun planning artifacts for python35 goal https://review.openstack.org/450982 | 03:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ferenc Horváth proposed openstack/governance master: Add Tempest test plugin to Nova project https://review.openstack.org/451227 | 07:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | zaneb: I think anyone with an idea can propose a session, let me put something together and ping you a link to it | 08:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | zaneb: does this look helpful: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/50 | 09:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/governance master: python35 goal for TripleO https://review.openstack.org/424857 | 14:11 |
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| lbragstad | johnthetubaguy did you have anything you wanted to work through in the policy meeting today? | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | not really | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | just looking for feedback on the latest spec versions really | 14:28 |
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| lbragstad | johnthetubaguy the two latest nova specs, right? | 14:36 |
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| johnthetubaguy | lbragstad: sorry, yeah | 14:36 |
| lbragstad | johnthetubaguy these two https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427872/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433037/ ? | 14:36 |
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| lbragstad | johnthetubaguy i can send a cancellation note for todays meeting and link to those so that we can have a discussion about them next week | 14:37 |
| lbragstad | ? | 14:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | lbragstad: that works for me | 14:45 |
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| lbragstad | johnthetubaguy cool - sending it now | 14:49 |
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| EmilienM | russellb: hey, please look http://logs.openstack.org/52/448952/1/check/gate-puppet-ovn-puppet-beaker-rspec-centos-7/3923824/console.html#_2017-03-29_13_45_13_180931 | 17:15 |
| EmilienM | https://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/pmatilai/dpdk-snapshot has been removed | 17:16 |
| EmilienM | it breaks puppet ci | 17:16 |
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| russellb | EmilienM: ah, well that's no fun. i think we can drop it completely ... RDO ships OVS 2.6 now | 17:25 |
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| EmilienM | russellb: mhh ok, so where is the package now? any url? | 17:28 |
| russellb | EmilienM: OVS 2.6 is in delorean-deps, is that enabled? | 17:28 |
| russellb | where would these jobs get OVS normally | 17:28 |
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| EmilienM | russellb: ok i'll try that | 17:29 |
| EmilienM | thx | 17:29 |
| russellb | yep np | 17:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/governance master: Update keystone goals for python 35 support https://review.openstack.org/448211 | 17:43 |
| EmilienM | russellb: works well. Thanks again | 17:43 |
| russellb | great | 17:43 |
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| EmilienM | russellb: in fact, RDO newton doesn't provide OVS 2.6 | 18:14 |
| EmilienM | russellb: or maybe I missed something | 18:14 |
| russellb | ah, true story | 18:14 |
| russellb | just ocata | 18:14 |
| russellb | i guess | 18:14 |
| EmilienM | I guess we need to remove our tests in stable/newton since the snapshot was removed :( | 18:15 |
| russellb | or you can switch to this copr -- https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/leifmadsen/ovs-master/ | 18:15 |
| russellb | that should work ... | 18:15 |
| russellb | but honestly, i'm not that concerned with newton support | 18:15 |
| russellb | so whatever is easier fo ryou | 18:15 |
| EmilienM | ok | 18:15 |
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| smcginnis | dims: Do we need a Forum discussion on crypto? | 18:55 |
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| dims | smcginnis : could be just part of a requirements discussion, looking at what we need to keep/drop/update-minimums etc | 18:57 |
| dims | tonyb_ : do we have a slot at forum for requirements? ^ | 18:57 |
| smcginnis | dims: Looks like switching to pycrptodome would be trivial for Cinder. cyptography would be a little more work. | 18:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/governance master: Use case analysis for Golang addition to Openstack https://review.openstack.org/451524 | 19:00 |
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| dims | smcginnis : y, either one is acceptable i think | 19:01 |
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| smcginnis | dims: But we can't switch to pycryptodome unless everyone gets off pycrypto, right? | 19:02 |
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| smcginnis | dims: So we can go to cryptography, but if pycryptodome is the direction we end up going, that would be the easier path. | 19:02 |
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| dims | smcginnis : i'll check on it again soon. y, just making sure all projects can work with pycryptodome would be the easy/quick win | 19:04 |
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| notmyname | ttx: FYI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451524/ | 19:08 |
| notmyname | dims: ^ | 19:08 |
| notmyname | flaper87: mordred: ^ | 19:08 |
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| mordred | notmyname: neat! | 19:09 |
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| mordred | smcginnis, dims: fwiw, we wound up on crytpography in zuul v3 (which is not necessarily immediately relevant, but thought I'd share) | 19:10 |
| fungi | fwiw, the pyca/cryptography lib is written by many of those fine folks from openstack, so you might know a few of them | 19:10 |
| mordred | fungi: was there a specific reason we picked cryptography over pycryptodome? | 19:10 |
| fungi | there was a lengthy thread on the -dev ml a while back | 19:11 |
| smcginnis | mordred: Technical reason? Or just decided to go that route? | 19:11 |
| dims | thanks for the context fungi and mordred | 19:11 |
| fungi | cryptography is not an openstack project/developed inside the openstack community, but has a fair amount of overlap in contributors | 19:12 |
| fungi | not saying that's a primary reason to choose it, but it was developed with openstack use cases in mind specifically | 19:13 |
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| fungi | i'm grepping the ml now for a link or two | 19:13 |
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| fungi | here's where i tried to sum it up (with citations) back in november http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/106830.html | 19:16 |
| mordred | notmyname: that is both thorough and concise | 19:16 |
| fungi | smcginnis: dims: ^ | 19:17 |
| notmyname | mordred: great. it's what we were going for. tdasilva did a fantastic job, and we had several other cores reviewing too | 19:17 |
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| mordred | notmyname: it reads really well and I feel like I truly understand the situation | 19:17 |
| mordred | smcginnis, dims: so it seems from an openstack perspective, the fact that keystone and nova are already using one of the two is a decent vote in that direction | 19:18 |
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| dims | notmyname : ack reading | 19:18 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Thanks! | 19:18 |
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| mordred | but whatever we wind up deciding, this may be one of those where writing up a document that explains the decision might not be a bad idea :) | 19:19 |
| smcginnis | mordred, fungi, dims: Based on this, even though it's a little more work, I'm thinking cryptography may be the better package to standardize on. | 19:19 |
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| mordred | smcginnis: ++ | 19:19 |
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| dims | smcginnis : agreed | 19:21 |
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| fungi | i won't pretend to have reviewed the library in its entirety, but i especially like the "hazmat" tagging on lower-level primitives. provides a convemient reminder that you shouldn't be composing anything from those yourself unless you really, really, really know what you're doing | 19:25 |
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| mordred | fungi: ++ | 19:36 |
| fungi | want to hash passwords? here's a function. wait, you want to fiddle with bcrypt directly? are you sure? warning! warning! | 19:37 |
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| dims | notmyname : so other python processes will talk to object server via grpc or message queues? | 19:38 |
| dims | notmyname : just curious | 19:38 |
| dims | notmyname : i see that you are not proposing a whole sale rewrite of all the things... | 19:39 |
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| mordred | dims: I believe the other processes in swift already talked to the object over an internal api - so I believe hummingbird just responds to that same api | 19:44 |
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| mordred | (as much as I would like to see more grpc everywhere) | 19:45 |
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| notmyname | dims: mordred: correct. we will still have python talking to a golang object server | 19:46 |
| dims | thanks notmyname | 19:46 |
| mordred | notmyname: it's almost like I've been paying attention! :) | 19:46 |
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| mordred | (this is almost never the case) | 19:46 |
| notmyname | mordred: if you want to see the ideas about using grpc we have in swift, read https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-rebalance (in which the full problem is detailed and golang is a small part of the total solution) | 19:46 |
| dims | mordred : pop quiz to test, did you see the v3alpha grpc-gateway to avoid eventlet problem with grpc? | 19:47 |
| mordred | notmyname: ooh! well - I'm a giant fan of gRPC - having a grpc service I'm working on and all | 19:47 |
| mordred | dims: I did not! but I avoid eventlet like the plague anyway, so may have missed that one | 19:47 |
| mordred | dims: you has link? | 19:47 |
| notmyname | mordred: the high-level bullets are: * fix scheduling of work to be smarter * fix protocols so we're more in the data path (and can take advantage of the scheduling of work in the protocol) * write golang object server so that when we actually send data to a disk, it goes fast | 19:48 |
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| dims | Relevant issues in grpc and gevent projects in upstream: | 19:48 |
| dims | https://github.com/grpc/grpc/issues/6046 | 19:48 |
| dims | https://github.com/grpc/grpc/issues/4629 | 19:48 |
| dims | https://github.com/gevent/gevent/issues/938 | 19:48 |
| dims | https://github.com/gevent/gevent/issues/786 | 19:48 |
| notmyname | the first two are language agnostic | 19:48 |
| dims | mordred : thanks to jaypipes 's notes in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446983/ | 19:48 |
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| mordred | AH - etcd3 and tooz - I grok why eventlet becomes important in the discussion | 19:49 |
| dims | mordred : so we need to use the v3alpha HTTP API if we want to play nice with eventlet based services - https://coreos.com/etcd/docs/latest/dev-guide/api_grpc_gateway.html | 19:50 |
| mordred | notmyname: if you get a little further in the grpc exploration, I have some build scripts and jobs in the gate and whatnot for dealing with grpc - would be more than happy to collaborate on those bits | 19:50 |
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| notmyname | mordred: kk. thanks | 19:50 |
| mordred | dims: nod. so this is using the support in goloang-grpc for accepting the protobuf messages over a normal HTTP interface in a quasi-rest approach? | 19:50 |
| notmyname | mordred: we're starting on the scheduling part before the protocol part, but yeah :-) | 19:50 |
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| dims | mordred : which means either kragniz's etcd3 library has to support both grpc and this v3alpha api or we roll out another library | 19:51 |
| notmyname | dims: I first glanced at your statement as "the Valhala HTTP API", and now I want that | 19:51 |
| dims | mordred : yes | 19:51 |
| dims | notmyname : LOL | 19:51 |
| mordred | dims: JOY | 19:51 |
| dims | mordred : i took a stab at the latter - https://github.com/dims/etcd3-gateway | 19:51 |
| dims | kept it as close to kragniz's work | 19:52 |
| dims | as possible | 19:52 |
| mordred | dims: cool! | 19:52 |
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| dims | i am debating whether to just throw that into g-r or figure out how to add backends to etcd3 library | 19:53 |
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| dims | tooz abstracts stuff then etcd3 abstracts stuff... too much abstractions :) | 19:54 |
| mordred | I mean - it probably wouldn't be TERRIBLE to add support to etcd3 lib - if we're having the problem, someone else will be having it too | 19:54 |
| mordred | otoh - that may be serious crack | 19:54 |
| mordred | and just having an etcd3-gateway backend for tooz is maybe not terrible? | 19:55 |
| dims | mordred : y etcd3 library was not designed for that... | 19:55 |
| dims | right | 19:55 |
| mordred | dims: which is to say - I grok your quandry and have no helpful suggestoins | 19:55 |
| dims | :) thanks at least you know | 19:55 |
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| dims | i will chew on it a bit more and throw reviews up later this week :) | 19:56 |
| dims | jaypipes : did you have any other opinion? :) | 19:56 |
| * jaypipes reads back | 19:57 | |
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| dims | jaypipes : yet another driver in tooz for grpc-gateway with new library or backend in etcd3 library for grpc-gateway | 19:58 |
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| dims | jaypipes : also, i reviewed the os-lively calls to etcd3 and made sure that the new library implements them exactly as you have it | 19:59 |
| jaypipes | dims: I think I'd prefer to keep kragniz's python-etcd3 clean and gRPC-only and have an interim protobuf-over-HTTP driver for tooz. | 19:59 |
| dims | thanks that nudges me over to that side :) | 20:00 |
| jaypipes | dims: of course, that's up to kragniz :) | 20:00 |
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| dims | LOL ++ jaypipes | 20:00 |
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| mordred | zzzeek: if you happen to be around - http://logs.openstack.org/12/451312/1/check/gate-shade-dsvm-functional-neutron/ed4f437/logs/screen-designate-api.txt.gz#_2017-03-29_15_41_23_273 | 20:55 |
| mordred | zzzeek: we're hitting that in designate when running with sqla 1.1 but not with < 1.1 | 20:55 |
| zzzeek | mordred: OK | 20:55 |
| mordred | zzzeek: from what I can see "SOA" is in the Enum ... | 20:56 |
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| mordred | RECORD_TYPES = ['A', 'AAAA', 'CNAME', 'MX', 'SRV', 'TXT', 'SPF', 'NS', 'PTR', | 20:56 |
| mordred | 'SSHFP', 'SOA'] | 20:56 |
| mordred | Column('type', Enum(name='record_types', *RECORD_TYPES), nullable=False), | 20:56 |
| mordred | wondering if you had any suggestions on what to look for | 20:56 |
| zzzeek | mordred: looking | 20:57 |
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| zzzeek | mordred: OK so, this is a huge function, _find_recordsets_with_records. initial theory is someting in there must be not what is expected | 21:03 |
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| mordred | zzzeek: yah - I was noticing that (I have about 5 more minutes background with designate that you do at this point) | 21:05 |
| zzzeek | mordred: I am looking in git clone and I see: RECORD_TYPES = ['A', 'AAAA', 'CNAME', 'MX', 'SRV', 'TXT', 'SPF', 'NS', 'PTR', | 21:05 |
| zzzeek | 'SSHFP'] | 21:05 |
| mordred | oh | 21:05 |
| mordred | hrm | 21:05 |
| zzzeek | mordred: is this a gerrit changeset ? | 21:05 |
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| mordred | zzzeek: it's ... shade tests against devstacks and has designate enabled in that config | 21:06 |
| mordred | zzzeek: so I got interested when my jobs started breaking :) | 21:06 |
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| mordred | zzzeek: there seem to be two different copies of RECORD_TYPES in the tree | 21:06 |
| mordred | and they do not agree with each other | 21:06 |
| zzzeek | mordred: oh. they put the SOA in the migration but not the model | 21:07 |
| zzzeek | that's the issue | 21:07 |
| * mordred sends patch | 21:07 | |
| dims | yay | 21:07 |
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| zzzeek | mordred: the reason ENUM validates these now is that it expects you might have a lookup to a real python enum objecvt | 21:07 |
| mordred | remote: https://review.openstack.org/451569 Add SOA to RECORD_TYPES in sqlalchemy.tabes | 21:07 |
| mordred | zzzeek: validating is a great idea! | 21:08 |
| zzzeek | mordred: yup should be good here | 21:08 |
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| mordred | cool. I've also put up https://review.openstack.org/451264 again with a depends-on that patch | 21:09 |
| mordred | zzzeek: thanks for the help!!! | 21:09 |
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| dstanek | smcginnis: mordred: late to the party, but i'm a fan of the cryptography package | 22:18 |
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| mordred | dstanek: \o/ | 22:47 |
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| dstanek | hey mordred | 22:51 |
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