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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Add swift artifacts for deploy-api-in-wsgi goal https://review.openstack.org/469847 | 08:02 |
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| jamespage | icey: tidied the comment out regex's | 08:26 |
| jamespage | good spot | 08:26 |
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| icey | jamespage: :) | 08:27 |
| icey | jamespage: want to give tinwood a chance to review as well | 08:27 |
| jamespage | icey: +1 | 08:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Introduce Top 5 help wanted list https://review.openstack.org/466684 | 08:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Add "Doc owners" to top-5 wanted list https://review.openstack.org/469115 | 08:47 |
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| jamespage | tinwood, icey: hey - this is a complex one but could you take a review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469556 | 10:50 |
| jamespage | I've been exercising it using the devstack and the hotplug interface tempest test | 10:50 |
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| jamespage | revealing some diff in interface key naming between instance creation and hotpluging of interfaces | 10:51 |
| tinwood | jamespage, yeah, taking a look now. | 10:51 |
| jamespage | tinwood: I'll ask the original author of the p2p bits to take a look as awell | 10:52 |
| jamespage | as I'm dropping those... | 10:52 |
| tinwood | okay | 10:52 |
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| jamespage | tinwood, icey: running tempest.scenario.test_network_basic_ops against the changes manually | 10:53 |
| jamespage | I also have a project-config change up to add linuxbridge testing | 10:53 |
| jamespage | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473357/ | 10:54 |
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| icey | jamespage: have had a look at your vif change a couple of times, this is another place where it'll be really nice to have tempest in gate | 10:55 |
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| icey | jamespage: that linuxbridge testing change's diff is terrible, splitting right in the middle to add the diff :-/ | 10:58 |
| jamespage | icey: yep with my three inflight reviews we get to the point where I feel we can push experimental checks into the actual gate and make them voting | 10:58 |
| icey | jamespage: yeah, I'm quite excited about that; is there a good way to test projectconfig changes that add tests besides to enable them as non-voting and see if they work? | 10:58 |
| jamespage | icey: not that I'm aware of | 10:59 |
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| icey | tinwood: would you care to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473476/ as well ? | 14:29 |
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| tinwood | icey, sure, I;ll take a look. | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/governance master: Remove "meritocracy" from the opens https://review.openstack.org/473510 | 15:51 |
| cdent | dtroyer: I gave it a stab ^ | 15:51 |
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| claudiub|2 | mtreinish: hi. so, apparently we have an interesting case while setting tempest venv. let's say we're on ocata, and running devstack or whatever, and we're using upper constraints (/opt/stack/requirements/upper-contraints.txt). The projects install properly, as per upper-contraints, but then comes tempest allong, and tries to setup it's venv: | 16:04 |
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| claudiub|2 | mtreinish: 2017-06-12 08:58:54.849 | ++ lib/tempest:configure_tempest:559 : tox -evenv-tempest -- pip install -c /opt/stack/requirements/upper-constraints.txt -r requirements.txt-- in which /opt/stack/requirements is actually on stable/ocata, and the requirements conflicts with what's in the tempest's requirements.txt. any idea about this? | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/governance master: Remove "meritocracy" from the opens https://review.openstack.org/473510 | 16:16 |
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| dtroyer | cdent: hmmm… while I do not object to the change per se, I do fail to see the need or reason to do so. This feels like those one-at-a-time typo fixes that we all don't love to see. I object to the characterization in the commit message, particularly 'imposed from elsewhere', specifically because that was not the case here. This makes it sound oppressive, and maybe my lifetime of white midwest-US male privilege causes me | 16:55 |
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| smcginnis | lol | 16:58 |
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| cdent | dtroyer: you got cut off I believe | 17:04 |
| cdent | the characterization is one that plenty of people have made, not that I'm making it, and since it is so easily subject to misinterpretation... | 17:04 |
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| cdent | (I would, however, make the characterization; but that's not the thrust of the change) | 17:07 |
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| smcginnis | flaper87: This would be a good one to push through. Will at least cut the test runs logs down by over 50%. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462376/ | 17:11 |
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| flaper87 | smcginnis: looking | 17:12 |
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| smcginnis | flaper87: Floods the logs with deprecation warnings. | 17:12 |
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| dtroyer | cdent: (I got cut off by lunch actually :) I disagree with the notion that all leadership styles are created equal. Some that may be meritorious in one community may be totally toxic in another. Those communities that have intentionally set a direction and style and culture will by nature not be equally welcoming to radically different styles and cultures. We see this in so many aspects of society where the line gets cros | 17:42 |
| cdent | dtroyer looks like you're line length is again too long: gets cros$ on this one, and causes me$ on the one above | 17:44 |
| dtroyer | But back to OpenStack specifically, we do ultimately let the community decide the direction. In reality, that community is our sponsoring companies, confirmed my the small numbers of people whose jobs changed away from OpenStack for whatever reason and they stuck around anyway. This is why I do not think this change is worth the effort, even symbolically, because it doesn't change anything. | 17:44 |
| dtroyer | ok, some version of this rant will appear as a comment in that review | 17:44 |
| clarkb | IRC has a message limit of 512 byes (whcih includes desitnation and protocol overhaed). Unfortunately many cleints don't handle that gracefully out of the box | 17:45 |
| clarkb | I think even irssi needs a plugin | 17:45 |
| smcginnis | Shows up fine on my irssi default client. | 17:45 |
| clarkb | ya you get the first 512 bytes :) | 17:46 |
| dtroyer | The full text of the three lines are in http://paste.openstack.org/show/612346/ | 17:46 |
| cdent | dtroyer: so you disagree that the term "meritocracy" has a tendency to be distracting for some, disturbing for others? | 17:46 |
| smcginnis | cdent: Oh, yep. Hadn't noticed that. :) | 17:46 |
| dtroyer | it's a rant, may not be worth the time to read | 17:47 |
| cdent | huh, I think rants are usually more worth reading than non-rants | 17:47 |
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| haleyb | marios: just updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471381/ - think I fixed the remaining issue | 20:53 |
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| cdent | mriedem: not sure if you've got the stamina, but if you haven't yet looked the new revision of the postgres resolution doesn't seem to reflect the meeting I think we both were at. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427880/ It's probably not worth fighting about, but I found it quite surprising. | 21:29 |
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| mriedem | nobody questions my stamina and gets away with it | 21:30 |
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| * cdent notes that for future reference | 21:31 | |
| mriedem | just joking, everyone gets away with it | 21:31 |
| mriedem | because of my lack of stamina | 21:31 |
| mriedem | ironically | 21:31 |
| * cdent notes that, too, for future reference | 21:31 | |
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| mriedem | cdent: commented inline | 21:47 |
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| cdent | thanks, I'm relieved it's not just me | 21:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/governance master: Begin intergrating vision feedback and editing for style https://review.openstack.org/473620 | 23:01 |
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