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| openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/governance master: Mark Octavia complete for pike uwsgi goal https://review.openstack.org/478709 | 03:23 |
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| strigazi | dstanek Did you test your theory? | 07:07 |
| _heena_py_ | can anyone tell me how to detach a volume from instance using novaclient | 07:11 |
| _heena_py_ | ? | 07:11 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: CLI or programmatically? https://docs.openstack.org/cli-reference/nova.html | 07:57 |
| smcginnis | Oops, sorry hemna. | 07:58 |
| smcginnis | _heena_py_: ^^ | 07:58 |
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| _heena_py_ | programttically | 08:02 |
| _heena_py_ | using cinderclient or novaclient | 08:02 |
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| afazekas | Who can get promotional Code for PRG ? | 08:21 |
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| dmellado | do you mean PTG? | 09:49 |
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| bodgix | ianw, andreaf, blair, sdague and whoever has some spare cycles. I would appreciate some eyes on a code review for devstack: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478525/ | 13:21 |
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| andrewbogott | zigo: since I'm dumb and didn't grab a dump when it was still up, do you know of/have backups of mitaka-jessie.pkgs.mirantis.com? | 15:22 |
| andrewbogott | I started to build a new server yesterday and realized that… I can't :( | 15:22 |
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| jgriffith | mordred maybe you should have "your people" talk to "my people" because there certainly is confusion from folks I talk to trying to do private cloud about WTF OpenStack is. "Do I really need to deploy ALL of these things", "What are all of these things", "Holy shit, that's a lot of things" | 19:58 |
| jgriffith | mordred perhaps you think it's just passive-aggressive not agreeing with you but I think that's kind of a cop out | 19:58 |
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| jgriffith | mordred and FTR I'm not saying I have the answer either | 19:59 |
| clarkb | jgriffith: I think the passive aggressiveness in the argument is that openstack won't say "this is what you need start here" | 19:59 |
| clarkb | jgriffith: that answers the Do I really need to deploy all of these things, what are all of these things, and possibly confirms that holy shit its a lot of things :) | 19:59 |
| jgriffith | clarkb hmm... so maybe I interpretted that completely wrong then | 19:59 |
| jgriffith | because my read was that "others" were saying "it's confusing about what OpenStack is" was a passive-aggressive act on *their* part | 20:00 |
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| clarkb | at least that is how I read it. There is confusion because we won't have an opinion because we all have different opinions and we passive aggressively disagreee with each other on it | 20:00 |
| jgriffith | to cover up their "I don't like what you say it is" | 20:00 |
| clarkb | where we == openstack | 20:01 |
| jgriffith | well, I guess that just goes to show... words are hard | 20:01 |
| jgriffith | * People are not 'confused' by what OpenStack is. | 20:01 |
| jgriffith | Being "confused" is a passive-aggressive way of expressing that they DISAGREE with what OpenStack is. We still have _plenty_ of people who express that they think we should only be IaaS - so they're still going to be unhappy with cloudkitty, congress and karbor. | 20:01 |
| jgriffith | I got a completely different feel from that which was surprising to me | 20:02 |
| clarkb | it is entirely possible that I didn't interpret it the way mordred meant it :) | 20:02 |
| jgriffith | clarkb or it could be that since just the "snippet" of the original was used that it's possible it's out of context there... | 20:03 |
| jgriffith | If only there were some sort of Mail List archive | 20:03 |
| jgriffith | :) | 20:03 |
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| jgriffith | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/119075.html | 20:07 |
| jgriffith | clarkb so yeah, slightly better with the full context | 20:07 |
| jgriffith | clarkb thanks for bringing me back to reasonablity | 20:07 |
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| mordred | jgriffith, clarkb: I do not believe I can improve upon the scrollback here | 20:36 |
| jgriffith | mordred your work here is done | 20:38 |
| jgriffith | mordred thanks! | 20:38 |
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| mordred | \o/ | 20:39 |
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| thingee | hey all, I'm working on improving our contributor on-boarding process. Would appreciate any feedback http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/119153.html | 21:24 |
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| zigo | andrewbogott: I do, on my laptop ... | 21:45 |
| zigo | andrewbogott: I have releases k, l, m and n ... | 21:46 |
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| zigo | andrewbogott: Otherwise, you can use snapshot.debian.org, it should have it too. | 21:47 |
| efried | thingee +1 | 21:47 |
| andrewbogott | zigo: so each of those releases k,l,m,n made their way through official debian repos at one time or another? | 21:48 |
| efried | thingee Long as each subsection has a "Getting Started" that walks you through things like paperwork, git/gerrit config, yattayatta. | 21:48 |
| zigo | andrewbogott: Sure, and even Mitaka is still in official Jessie backport. | 21:49 |
| andrewbogott | hm, ok, maybe I just need to dig deeper then | 21:49 |
| andrewbogott | I'll try that, if it fails I'll set up an upload server and beg for a copy of your laptop :) | 21:49 |
| zigo | andrewbogott: http://packages.debian.org/nova-compute <--- Look, Mitaka is still there in jessie-backports ... | 21:50 |
| zigo | If I remember well, it was all backports-ftp-master approved during Debconf 16 in Cape Town ! :) | 21:50 |
| zigo | .oO(thanks Rhonda for that...) | 21:51 |
| andrewbogott | when I try to install python3 clients from there apt complains for days. But I haven't investigated very much and am in the middle of a crisis right now so will have to leave you in suspense :( | 21:51 |
| andrewbogott | Probably I was just doing something silly | 21:51 |
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| zigo | k | 21:52 |
| zigo | apt-get install -t jessie-backports should be ok though ... | 21:52 |
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| thingee | efried: thanks | 21:53 |
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