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| mriedem | bnemec: are you just waiting on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo.upgradecheck+status:open to merge before cutting a release? | 16:59 |
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| mriedem | dhellmann: i'm +2 on ^ there are a couple needing another +W | 17:00 |
| bnemec | mriedem: I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604421/ would be wanted in particular since it's an API change. | 17:00 |
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| mriedem | yeah | 17:00 |
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| dhellmann | bnemec , mriedem: one -1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604421/ but +2 on the others | 17:15 |
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| bnemec | dhellmann: I'll double check, but I think there was a problem with calling Designate's config init function without first registering the category parser. | 17:17 |
| bnemec | So because of the ordering, we either neede two separate functions or one that called a callback in the middle. | 17:18 |
| bnemec | *needed | 17:18 |
| bnemec | But I will verify that and respond on the review. | 17:19 |
| dhellmann | won't each project need their own main()? | 17:19 |
| dhellmann | oh, the category subcommand thing | 17:19 |
| dhellmann | hmm | 17:19 |
| dhellmann | are they registering command line options? | 17:19 |
| bnemec | I think it was trying to parse cli opts and failing. | 17:20 |
| dhellmann | oh, they shouldn't be parsing the command line options | 17:20 |
| bnemec | Well, it ran cfg.CONF(sys.argv[1:]), which tries to parse them. | 17:21 |
| dhellmann | why is that not happening inside this main() function? | 17:21 |
| dhellmann | maybe we have 2 different views of this | 17:22 |
| bnemec | It doesn't, it's part of the config setup code in Designate. | 17:22 |
| bnemec | Let me find the actual code. | 17:22 |
| dhellmann | I thought the idea was to have them provide a main() that creates a config object, registers some options, then passes it on to the library to do all the real work | 17:22 |
| dhellmann | it sounds like the main() in designate is doing more than that | 17:22 |
| bnemec | Originally that was the idea. When I tested, I found out that if we don't reuse the project's setup code then we have to explicitly pass the config file every time. | 17:23 |
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| bnemec | https://github.com/openstack/designate/blob/master/designate/utils.py#L106 | 17:24 |
| bnemec | The main thing is that it sets up default_config_files sanely for the project. | 17:25 |
| dhellmann | is that a new function written for use with the upgrade checker? or are we trying to reuse something that existed before? | 17:25 |
| bnemec | Reuse | 17:25 |
| dhellmann | ok | 17:25 |
| dhellmann | that was not what I expected us to try to do | 17:25 |
| bnemec | The actual designate review is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604430/ | 17:26 |
| dhellmann | passing project and prog to main in the library ought to be enough to have it find the configuration files | 17:26 |
| dhellmann | oh, they have their own custom defaults for locations for those | 17:26 |
| dhellmann | joy | 17:26 |
| bnemec | Apparently cinder does too since that's where the search code came from. | 17:27 |
| dhellmann | it's a shame we have no way to share things like that aside from copying code around | 17:29 |
| dhellmann | I don't feel like what we have here is really structured for good reuse | 17:30 |
| dhellmann | maybe we don't want a main in the library at ll? | 17:31 |
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| dhellmann | or maybe teams are going to need to do a little more work on boilerplate to use it? | 17:31 |
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| dhellmann | I feel like what we have now is trying to be reusable but just requires them to do stuff that isn't obvious | 17:32 |
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| dhellmann | like, either parse the options yourself and call some functions in the library, or let the library do all of it | 17:32 |
| dhellmann | not both at the same time | 17:32 |
| dhellmann | bnemec : do you have an example of updating nova, too? | 17:33 |
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| dhellmann | or I guess any other project | 17:33 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: There is a patch to convert Nova, but it's taking the "parse the options yourself" approach because they had already done that. | 17:34 |
| bnemec | https://review.openstack.org/603499 | 17:34 |
| bnemec | So they don't call the library's main at all. | 17:34 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 17:34 |
| dhellmann | I feel like that makes more sense | 17:34 |
| dhellmann | maybe for designate, too | 17:35 |
| dhellmann | or the library main should take some instances or classes and do all of the work | 17:35 |
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| dhellmann | although I guess if everyone needs to pass special defaults for locations for config files, then no one would be able to use a generic main | 17:36 |
| dhellmann | maybe we should separate out the parts that add the library's options to the config object | 17:36 |
| bnemec | I think you're kind of describing the two separate functions implementation, where the library provides a function to register the appropriate category opts on the project's conf object. | 17:37 |
| dhellmann | or maybe just not provide a main() at all | 17:37 |
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| bnemec | So instead of passing a callback, the project calls upgradecheck.register_opts(cfg.CONF) and then does their config parsing and calls main. | 17:37 |
| dhellmann | no | 17:38 |
| dhellmann | well, I agree that's an option, it's just not what I'm thinking we want any more | 17:38 |
| dhellmann | I don't think the library should register any command line options at all | 17:38 |
| dhellmann | and I don't think it should provide a main | 17:38 |
| bnemec | Then everyone has to copy boilerplate code to do that. | 17:39 |
| dhellmann | these main functions aren't big and they look much less hairy when they're just inline | 17:39 |
| dhellmann | they all need some main() anyway | 17:39 |
| dhellmann | I guess we could provide a convenience function to register "upgrade check" as a set of nested parsers with a callback | 17:39 |
| dhellmann | but using it should be optional | 17:39 |
| dhellmann | let me poke at this review some | 17:40 |
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| bnemec | Okay. | 17:41 |
| bnemec | I may be too deep in this and not understanding the complexity from the user perspective. | 17:42 |
| dhellmann | why is that subparser called "category"? | 17:42 |
| dhellmann | or subcommandopt | 17:42 |
| bnemec | Nova :-) | 17:42 |
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| bnemec | We could call it anything though. | 17:43 |
| dhellmann | I wonder if we would have been better off saying we were going to write a new command rather than trying to fit into the foo-manage commands | 17:44 |
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| bnemec | It is a new command. $SERVICE-status | 17:45 |
| dhellmann | even in nova? | 17:45 |
| bnemec | Yeah | 17:45 |
| bnemec | I think they did it this way so they could add more status commands later if they wanted. | 17:45 |
| bnemec | I don't know if they had any specific ones in mind though. | 17:46 |
| dhellmann | so one would run it as "foo-status upgrade"? | 17:46 |
| bnemec | foo-status upgrade check | 17:46 |
| dhellmann | well, I guess "foo-status upgrade check" | 17:46 |
| bnemec | Yeah | 17:46 |
| dhellmann | then why are we worried about retrofitting into any existing code? | 17:46 |
| bnemec | So all of the project's cli commands work the same. | 17:47 |
| dhellmann | let's just add arguments for the stuff we need to pass to conf() | 17:47 |
| dhellmann | is it more important for all of the status commands to be similar, or all of the foo project commands to be similar? | 17:48 |
| dhellmann | I think the former, since this is a new cross-project thing | 17:48 |
| bnemec | Agreed. | 17:48 |
| bnemec | The main thing was I didn't want everyone to have to always specify the location of the config file. | 17:48 |
| dhellmann | they shouldn't have to | 17:49 |
| bnemec | But if we allowed them to pass in default_config_files then I think that also addresses that concern. | 17:49 |
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| dhellmann | they'll need to give us a project value | 17:49 |
| dhellmann | and that, yeah | 17:49 |
| bnemec | Yeah, I think that works for me. | 17:49 |
| dhellmann | ok, let me see if I can put together a patch on top of yours that does that | 17:49 |
| bnemec | At least in Designate's case they already have a method exposed that provides the correct list of files: https://github.com/openstack/designate/blob/master/designate/utils.py#L78 | 17:50 |
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