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| lennyb | Cores, pls review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/643299/ | 09:50 |
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| AJaeger | lennyb: this is the channel for all of OpenStack, if you want some review, best explain what repo it is. | 10:00 |
| AJaeger | lennyb: seeing it's devstack, better ask on #openstack-qa - and even there giving background about the change will help that the right people review it | 10:01 |
| lennyb | AJaeger, thanks. | 10:01 |
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| bauzas | question, who's owning stackalytics now ? looks like my metrics are wrong | 14:56 |
| bauzas | I wasn't paying attention until today | 14:56 |
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| smcginnis | bauzas: It's still run by Mirantis. | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | I noticed that too. | 15:00 |
| bauzas | ok, not a big deal | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | I assume like usual when this happens, they will eventually notice and get things fixed. | 15:01 |
| bauzas | I was a bit on and off this cycle so when I looked at my stats, I thought "oh, that's so bad ?" | 15:01 |
| bauzas | but after looking more, then I saw some reviews weren't there | 15:01 |
| bauzas | yeah | 15:02 |
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| cdent | bauzas: the caching is intermittent | 15:05 |
| cdent | if you reload you may see different results | 15:05 |
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| cdent | I'm guess there's some kind of async refreshing going on | 15:06 |
| cdent | which basically means the data is rather unreliable unless you load, wait, reload, wait, reload | 15:06 |
| cdent | that said, it is also probably wrong | 15:06 |
| bauzas | well, for example https://www.stackalytics.com/?user_id=sylvain-bauza&module=nova-specs | 15:06 |
| bauzas | I know I reviewed some specs during Januaey | 15:07 |
| bauzas | it's super weird | 15:07 |
| bauzas | anyway | 15:07 |
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| fungi | ttx: are you available to approve a security advisory i just sent to openstack-announce a few minutes ago? | 16:00 |
| mriedem | dtroyer: question about https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2005258 | 16:00 |
| mriedem | dtroyer: https://docs.openstack.org/osc-placement/latest/cli/index.html#resource-provider-trait-set is a full overwrite of traits on a resource provider, | 16:01 |
| mriedem | which kind of sucks when you might already have a dozen traits on a provider and don't want to have to specify those every time | 16:01 |
| mriedem | dtroyer: i'm wondering if you know of any existing OSC CLIs like this where you can specify an --add/--append/--amend option or something? | 16:01 |
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| ttx | fungi: yes | 16:07 |
| fungi | thanks! | 16:07 |
| ttx | done | 16:08 |
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| cmurphy | melwitt: lbragstad question for you here http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/003894.html | 17:21 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy ack | 17:22 |
| dtroyer | mriedem: /me just got back to my desk, will look deeper in a minute, but is it like the way we handle properites where they are all independant but we have a way to clear them all at once if desired? | 17:22 |
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| mriedem | sort of, i was looking at the openstack flavor set --property and openstack server set --property stuff but those are either add/change one at a time | 17:23 |
| mriedem | but that's also how those apis works, | 17:23 |
| mriedem | the traits API doesn't really work that way, it's all or none | 17:23 |
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| dtroyer | So how bad would it be for the user if we made traits look like properties? Ignoring the amoung of work under the hood for the moment... | 17:25 |
| dtroyer | actually, I need to refresh how neutron uses tags in my head too… | 17:26 |
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| dtroyer | mriedem: so as Monday-brain fades I think Neutron's tags (like on ports) might be closer than properties for traits. They may even be basically the same thing. The only read difference from properties is just that it is a present/not present attribute without a specific value. | 17:37 |
| mriedem | dtroyer: same with traits - they are a tag essentially | 17:38 |
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| mriedem | no value | 17:38 |
| dtroyer | I do know we have APIs that have both operational characteristics (only accepts the full set on create/set vs allows individual changes without needing them all) | 17:38 |
| mriedem | so looking at https://docs.openstack.org/python-openstackclient/latest/cli/command-objects/port.html#port-set | 17:39 |
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| mriedem | tags are just additive, and then --no-tag is used to start oer | 17:39 |
| mriedem | *over | 17:39 |
| dtroyer | or unset —tag to remove just one | 17:39 |
| dtroyer | and unset —all-tags is there too for completeness | 17:39 |
| mriedem | ah | 17:40 |
| mriedem | we already have https://docs.openstack.org/osc-placement/latest/cli/index.html#resource-provider-trait-delete which wipes out all traits | 17:40 |
| mriedem | so i guess we'd be looking more to change how trait set/unset work (there is no unset today, we'd have to add one) | 17:41 |
| dtroyer | I think that is the model to follow. Part of me wants to say to use the name 'tag' too but I think 'trait' is strongly enough associated here that users will not expect that | 17:41 |
| mriedem | yeah we want to use traits | 17:41 |
| mriedem | they are a specific thing in placement | 17:41 |
| mriedem | so we could do that on https://docs.openstack.org/osc-placement/latest/cli/index.html#resource-provider-trait-set and change the behavior in a major version | 17:41 |
| mriedem | where --trait is additive, not an overwrite | 17:42 |
| mriedem | and add a --no-traits to wipe them out | 17:42 |
| dtroyer | I also see I typed —all-tags above but it is actually singular, even though that sounds bad in English | 17:42 |
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| dtroyer | I opted to avoid plurals completely way back in the beginning… | 17:43 |
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| mriedem | dtroyer: ok thanks i've updated https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2005258 with what i think is the direction we can go | 17:47 |
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