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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Remove broken link https://review.opendev.org/672933 | 09:40 |
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| zaneb | dhellmann: do you know what the Right Thing to do with the periodic job in https://review.opendev.org/668476 is? I am thoroughly confused by all the back-and-forth in the history :) | 14:17 |
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| dhellmann | zaneb : I'm not sure. Maybe I removed it in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/599843/1/.zuul.yaml because it was clearly for stable and that patch was on master? | 14:25 |
| dhellmann | we don't have a good way in-repo to specify that a job should only run on master, but it's easy to do that for stable jobs | 14:25 |
| dhellmann | (say they should only run on stable branch(es)) | 14:25 |
| dhellmann | at this point I would ask the infra team for their advice about how to configure those jobs | 14:26 |
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| zaneb | dhellmann: that would make sense as the reason for removing it if the proposal bot adds the job back in when creating a stable branch | 14:28 |
| zaneb | I suspect we may have changed our minds about that during the process | 14:28 |
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| aspiers | anyone know if I can easily add a new service to a running devstack environment without screwing up what's already running? | 14:50 |
| aspiers | can I just tweak local.conf and rerun stack.sh? | 14:51 |
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| mlycka | Hi. It's always worked for me, but I had to make sure to either unstack first or stop all of the devstack esrvices. | 14:54 |
| aspiers | mlycka: That sounds like a "no" then ;-) I want to avoid stopping anything, ideally. | 14:54 |
| dhellmann | zaneb : yeah, tbh I don't know how that's supposed to work. Maybe gmann or someone else from the QA team can offer advice? | 14:55 |
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| mlycka | aspiers: Right. Not sure then. I think the issue I had was that the service didn't come up at the end of the installation. It might be possible that it installed correctly, it just never got started. I never really followed up though, so I really don't know. | 14:56 |
| aspiers | mlycka: I guess I'm basically asking, if I re-run stack.sh, what will it do to existing services? | 14:57 |
| zaneb | dhellmann: I think I'm going to go ahead and approve that patch, since it doesn't appear to be inconsistent with what the goal doc says, is apparently consistent with other projects, and neither of us remember why we removed that job (twice) :D | 14:57 |
| dhellmann | zaneb : your logic seems sound | 14:57 |
| dhellmann | :-) | 14:57 |
| zaneb | dhellmann: we can always remove it a third time if it turns out to be a horrible mistake ;) | 14:58 |
| mlycka | aspiers: Going off of leaky memory here, so don't quote me, but I think that the existing services kept running. | 14:58 |
| dhellmann | zaneb : sure, doing the same thing over and over beats having to figure out something new to do! | 14:59 |
| aspiers | mlycka: maybe I'll just try it :) | 14:59 |
| mlycka | aspiers: Yeah. Who dares wins/ | 14:59 |
| aspiers | hehe | 14:59 |
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| dtroyer | aspiers: in theory it would be possible to wire together a local.conf that only brought up one service and didn't touch anything else not specifically enabled but mu hunch is you'd spend more time sorting that out that you would writing a sub-set of stack.sh that only called the bits you need in the new service to bring it up. | 15:20 |
| aspiers | dtroyer: thanks. the key question seems to be whether stack.sh is idempotent with running services or whether it tears them down first - but if it does then why do we also need unstack.sh? | 15:21 |
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| aspiers | apologies if this is already documented but I couldn't find it | 15:22 |
| dtroyer | I am sure it is not idempotent, I am not sure it (still?) properly restarts everything | 15:23 |
| dtroyer | unstack.sh and clean.sh are varying degrees of teardown when making config changes that did not get handled properly just running stack.sh | 15:24 |
| aspiers | yeah, some clarity around the differences would be really helpful | 15:24 |
| dtroyer | I'm not certain it is really documented, but I've also not been in the guts of DevStack daily for a few years now | 15:24 |
| aspiers | AFAICS the docs only cover one workflow which is build everything from scratch | 15:24 |
| aspiers | but that takes a long time, and it's useful to be able to add services on top of an existing environment | 15:25 |
| dtroyer | that is the only workflow for bringing things up | 15:25 |
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| dtroyer | I have written service-specific scripts that call the install, config, start functions in the libs before, that approach works but takes time to set up the first time | 15:26 |
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| aspiers | OK, I guess I can survive without this time | 15:31 |
| aspiers | Probably still quicker just to rebuild from scratch :-/ | 15:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pete Birley proposed openstack/governance master: OSH: Add release management method https://review.opendev.org/673022 | 17:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Retire puppet-crane https://review.opendev.org/671271 | 17:34 |
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