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| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/governance master: Add "Comparison of Official Group Structures" document https://review.opendev.org/668093 | 02:42 |
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| cdent | zzzeek: if a system is often seeing the exception log added in this patch ( https://review.opendev.org/#/c/484455/ ) what does that mean about its configuration that is wrong? It shows up during scale/stress testing. There's a related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/1839138 | 11:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1839138 in oslo.db "Log flooded with an exception when reconnect-to-disconnected occurs" [Undecided,New] | 11:55 |
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| amotoki | coreycb: hi, regarding "Python 3 test runtimes for Train" goal, is there any guideline on py36 target in tox.ini? | 12:57 |
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| amotoki | coreycb: Your patches drops py36 env from tox.ini. I would like to know the consensus is to drop py36 env from tox.ini or not. | 12:57 |
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| coreycb | amotoki: it wasn't formally documented but was discussed in #openstack-tc. it's not required to drop py36, it is just a time saver for developers when running 'tox' with no args. | 12:59 |
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| amotoki | coreycb: okay. I will approve your patches on projcts I cover though I prefer to have py36. | 13:08 |
| amotoki | I always hit python3.7 is not found on my default bionic env and am forced to installed python3.7.... | 13:08 |
| amotoki | I stopped using 'tox' without arg and always use 'tox -e py36' | 13:08 |
| amotoki | :) | 13:08 |
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| mordred | yeah - python3.6 is what I get when I type "python" | 13:11 |
| mordred | although I do have a python3.7 too - installed via pyenv (same as my python3.6 :) ) | 13:12 |
| coreycb | amotoki: i agree it is a little awkward in that regard. on bionic you have to install python3.7 | 13:12 |
| * mordred has given up on pythons provided by distros | 13:12 | |
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| coreycb | lol | 13:12 |
| mordred | pyenv is so good | 13:13 |
| coreycb | mordred: that is a nice alternative. i guess the side effect is no long term security support that distros would provide. | 13:15 |
| mordred | yeah - but the upside is no random feature patches backported between versions - and access to any version of python regardless of distro decision to only ship one | 13:16 |
| smcginnis | amotoki: Part of the ideas from the discussion was py3.7 is a required supported runtime, so it should be a requirement that devs get that environment installed on their development machines and not just ignore it. | 13:16 |
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| amotoki | smcginnis: thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of that.... | 13:17 |
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| amotoki | smcginnis: I usually use the default env of ubuntu distro which is used in our CI by default, so I thought py36 is our requirement.... I might have missed some mailing thread. | 13:19 |
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| tosky | amotoki: I asked about this as well, but you can still run tox -e py36; the only difference is the set of environments which are executed by default when running tox with no parameters | 13:24 |
| tosky | if I understand it correctly | 13:25 |
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| amotoki | tosky: yeah, I know and now always specify an env name, so it is not a problem. however, some developers like to use just 'tox" so I wonder I still should care the default envs just as a reviewer. | 13:26 |
| tosky | uhm, personally, the only downside that I see is that they will be waste a bit more of CI resources | 13:27 |
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| amotoki | tosky: I am talking about the default envs in tox.ini so it does not affect our CI resources. | 13:34 |
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| amotoki | it leads to a question what the default envs in tox.ini means. As of now, it just means what envs developers are expected to run before pushing a patch to the gerrit. | 13:35 |
| zzzeek | cdent: the issue with that is lots of installations had an haproxy idle timeout of 90 seconds on the database connections a long time ago | 13:37 |
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| zzzeek | cdent: assuming haproxy is in use | 13:37 |
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| cdent | zzzeek: ah, so if there is a proxy (of some kind) in front that has an independent (and smaller) timeout from whatever is used in the openstack service conf, you'll see that? | 13:38 |
| zzzeek | cdent: yes. | 13:39 |
| cdent | great, thanks for you help, as always | 13:39 |
| zzzeek | cdent: i think it's strange they'd be seeing 3500 of these however, but I guess it is based on how much timehas passed to gather that many | 13:39 |
| zzzeek | cdent: MySQL also hasa timeout. it defaults to 8 hours. but they could have changed that too | 13:40 |
| cdent | these things are scale tests where they are pushing things until they break, creating n-thousand instances in a little time as possible | 13:40 |
| zzzeek | cdent: yeah in a scale test I would think the connetion remain very fresh though | 13:40 |
| zzzeek | cdent: and wouldn't be getting cut off | 13:40 |
| zzzeek | cdent: but im not recalling if haproxy's timeout is looking for "idle" or just "age" | 13:41 |
| cdent | i think in this case there is something other than haproxy involved, and I've not got awareness of what it is swapped into my brain | 13:42 |
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