Wednesday, 2020-02-05

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Update vulnerability:managed policy  https://review.opendev.org/67842604:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Propose a new goal to migrate all legacy zuul jobs  https://review.opendev.org/69127804:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Add watcher dashboard charm repository  https://review.opendev.org/70308005:00
openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Add Multi-Arch repo under governance  https://review.opendev.org/70332605:00
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: neutron-lbaas was retired in Ussuri  https://review.opendev.org/70578010:10
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack/governance master: Split OpenDev out of OpenStack Infra  https://review.opendev.org/70313414:59
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TViernionMorning everyone.17:08
yoctozeptomorning TViernion17:09
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TViernionHello Yoctozepto, hw goes the world over there?17:16
yoctozeptoTViernion: pretty well I would say, and there? any revelations? devstack working? :D17:17
TViernionGood to hear. It's actually snowing here, or it's just about stopped. Either way, thanks for asking. I did get devstack working ... once I switched to ubuntu that is. On centOS i was able to get packstack up and running.17:19
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TViernionAny recomendations for or against a cent deployment Yoctozepto?17:22
yoctozeptoTViernion: doing very well with kolla-ansible deployment on centos717:23
TViernionHow many nodes?17:23
yoctozeptoTViernion: 12 computes (mixed with accelerators), 3 controllers17:24
yoctozeptominicloud17:24
yoctozeptothough folks have much bigger deployments17:24
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TViernionI currently have a proxmox deployment of 21 machines17:26
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TViernionBut I just don't think it will meet our needs as we actually roll out our system.17:28
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TViernionEspecially now that the "core" functionality of the application is going to be centered around on demand, high available micro-services talking between multiple modules and outside 3rd party systems.17:32
TViernionI was actually looking at file systems when I came across swift which lead me to OpenStack17:33
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yoctozeptoTViernion: you might want kubernetes from magnum then17:58
TViernionoh they are wanting kubernetes, but I still need a better platform17:59
yoctozeptoTViernion: then you are in the right place18:00
TViernionlol18:00
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TViernionProxmox has been good, but there are just certain limitations that I'm facing with k8s18:01
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TViernionTime to go get lunch18:02
yoctozeptoTViernion: folks are flocking from proxmox to openstack indeed18:02
yoctozeptoalso from ovirt and vmware18:03
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yoctozeptoso we are good18:03
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TViernionHow hard is it to run a VMware image on openstack? or have you run into that?18:04
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yoctozeptoTViernion: I assume you mean vmdk? you can convert them to qcow2 and/or raw18:05
yoctozeptothere are even tools for fixing up the installed system18:05
yoctozeptolookup guestfs tools18:05
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TViernionyoctozepto, this i know. I'm actually working on converting one to qcow2 so that I can mount it in proxmox ... yeah... fuuun lol18:57
TViernionare you talking about guestfish?  by any chance?18:58
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yoctozeptoTViernion: yeah, and family19:00
yoctozeptolike  virt-customize19:00
openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/governance master: Select 'Switch legacy Zuul jobs to native' goal for Victoria  https://review.opendev.org/70608619:01
TViernionInteresting...19:01
TViernionI have to wrap my head around the difference between the manager and compute. I know this system is more like aws to where proxmox isn't.19:02
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yoctozeptoTViernion: what manager? you mean controller?19:14
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TViernionYeah, sorry.Controller and compute and then storage... they are all seperate from my understanding19:16
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TViernionThis image i'm working with now is for swagger .. don't know if you've heard of it, but they ONLY allow you to use their VM image for deployment and it only comes in 4 options... AWS, Azure, VMWare, and VirtuBox .. yaaay.19:19
TViernionJust to test this thing I'm thinking about installing virtubox on a centosVM ... just so i can see it lol19:20
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yoctozeptoTViernion: you can mix and match them19:23
yoctozeptohttps://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/kolla-ansible/train/quickstart.html19:23
yoctozeptoas for swagger, I know only one for api docs19:24
TViernionFrom a deployment standpoint. Does a controller have to be a dedicated machine? So if we had 1 dedicated controller and then rest be compute/storage then run a second controller in a VM envrionment?19:25
yoctozeptoTViernion: recommended to be dedicated (in the sense the os does only the controller role) and in ha but it could be a vm instead of physical19:27
yoctozeptostorage is mix and match19:27
yoctozeptomost folks nowadays try ceph19:27
TViernionI'm definitely looking at ceph and lustre and xtremeFS though I don't know how the later two work with openstack19:28
TViernionSo ... is swift not a storage system?19:29
TViernionI was talking about having 1 dedicated machine for controller and a secondary vm?  That way you have a backup if the primary goes down?19:30
timburkei love swift for storage! but then, i might be biased ;-)19:31
TViernionI guess really siwft is more "object" based and cinder is the block based management system? I think i have that right?19:31
TViernionTimburke, would you mind explaining?19:32
timburkei'm the swift PTL :D19:32
timburkeit's definitely *not* a filesystem, though -- if you go in expecting a bunch of filesystem-like behaviors, you may be in for a bad time19:33
TViernionoh wow... sooo you kinda know swift in and out theM lol19:33
TVierniontimburke, the system we are working on is a combination of documents, images, videos, and raw results.19:35
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timburkeon the face of it, sounds like a decent match for swift -- it's mostly "finished products", not stuff that needs active editing, yeah?19:42
TViernionCorrect, in fact none of this is reall editable.19:42
TViernionthese are all "finished" items like completed test results, video/pictures from scans, the raw results are even just text documents19:43
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timburke👍19:50
TViernionTimburke, was there something supposed to be there?19:54
timburkejust a thumbs up -- sounds like a pretty good use-case for swift to me!19:55
TViernionhow is swift for databases, or is that a better use ofr ceph?19:56
timburkeunder active use? terrible idea -- maybe ceph or something would be better? not sure19:57
timburkeif they're archival copies or backups, might be a good fit19:57
TViernionthat's the other part of the system19:57
TViernionNo, active use19:57
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TVierniontimburke rather most of the db use will be active (percona/mysql and some MSSql)20:02
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TViernionTimburke, would you mind me picking your brain sometime?20:44
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timburkesure! i tend to be most attentive in #openstack-swift, fwiw, and there are other people that tend to be helpful in there (especially when talking about swift, naturally)20:46
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