| clarkb | oh there is openrc stuff in glean too I guess. I'm not sure why you'd do both | 00:00 |
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| JayF | I'm going to see how this one performs. If it fails, I'm going to be close to the end of my rope but might try a systemd profile just b/c I know how to troubleshoot it better | 00:00 |
| JayF | In gentoo you choose a "profile" which is basically just a set of defaults which mesh well | 00:00 |
| JayF | e.g. I use a systemd desktop profile (some people might use an openrc desktop profile; or a systemd desktop gnome profile) | 00:00 |
| JayF | profile and arch are also conflated in Gentoo which made wiring in DIB's ARCH kinda fun | 00:01 |
| JayF | either way, going to let that CI run and have a Friday. Might poke at it on saturday if it's still in a werid state | 00:01 |
| JayF | I've been saying this in the gentoo community a lot: but DIB and Gentoo have very, very, very similar vibes in how things are done. I think if I can get this wired up and documented for the folks over there we might add to our userbase. | 00:02 |
| JayF | bash and python code working together, with lots and lots of environment variables for config, to help build a running system. Where does that sound familiar... | 00:02 |
| prometheanfire | clarkb: for pkgmap of rsync, either we had multiple packages named rsync (in different categories) or I was trying to be "fully correct", not sure which in this case | 00:20 |
| prometheanfire | I don't think rsync should resolve to anything but net-misc/rsync right now | 00:21 |
| prometheanfire | I also run a systemd profile | 00:21 |
| clarkb | is anyone booting with the systemd bootloader thing yet? | 00:21 |
| clarkb | I'm only curious because for VMs I wonder if that would speed up boottime a bit (since its one less context switch to go through in theory) | 00:22 |
| prometheanfire | yes | 00:24 |
| prometheanfire | well, my laptop is | 00:25 |
| prometheanfire | has been for a long time | 00:25 |
| JayF | The default recommended configuration in the gentoo handbook these days is systemd-boot with the discoverable partition spec | 00:25 |
| JayF | A couple of my local systems I run with no fstab whatsoever | 00:25 |
| JayF | At least if you're on a systemd profile | 00:25 |
| clarkb | discoverable partition means it reads the partition table for labels that tell it where to mount things? | 00:25 |
| JayF | prometheanfire: I was thinking it might be wise to make the package install implementation for Gentoo throw a warning if it gets a package that's not fully qualified | 00:26 |
| JayF | Yes | 00:26 |
| prometheanfire | looks like I have layout=uki with ukify? I think we are talking about the same thing | 00:26 |
| JayF | Basically I'm trying to remove anything that could make this more likely to bitrot, and using fully qualified package names helps that | 00:26 |
| JayF | My end goal is to get the gentoo CI reliable enough that we can make it voting; but right now just getting it to pass again would be nice 😅 | 00:27 |
| prometheanfire | fully qualified package names are heavily encouraged, who knows when there will be games-mud/rsync | 00:28 |
| JayF | `emerge docker` [oh no] | 00:29 |
| prometheanfire | dev-python/docker ? | 00:29 |
| JayF | There are like four of them :) | 01:02 |
| JayF | It's just the best example of collision I could think of | 01:02 |
| JayF | there's an x11-something one that's a dock | 01:02 |
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