Thursday, 2015-07-16

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rolandchanGood Afternoon from vaguely sunny Sydney. Lets kick off this meeting.05:00
rolandchan#startmeeting Diversity_Working_Group_205:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jul 16 05:00:36 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rolandchan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.05:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.05:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'diversity_working_group_2'05:00
ozstackerhello shane congrats on the BoD seat!05:00
shane-wanghello05:01
shane-wangthank you05:01
rolandchanFirst up. Lets have a rollcall. Can people state their real names and locations/timezones?05:01
rolandchanRoland Chan, AEST, Aptira.05:01
ozstackerthis is tristan btw - former board sitter :-)05:01
rolandchanoh, and you're affiliation if you have one :)05:01
ozstackerTristan Goode - Sydney Australia UTC+1005:02
ozstackerTristan Goode - Sydney Australia UTC+10 Aptira05:02
FleetDCJames Fleet Washington DC EST05:02
shane-wangShane Wang - Shanghai China UTC+805:02
rolandchanOK. That looks like everyone.05:03
rolandchanThe purpose of this meeting is to ensure that we include an APAC friendly meeting slot to discuss the Diversity Working Group progress05:04
rolandchanDoes everyone have a link to the minutes of the previous meeting?05:04
rolandchanand the agenda for this one?05:04
* ozstacker looks05:05
rolandchanhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Diversity#Agenda05:05
shane-wanghttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStackDiversity.1? and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStackDiversity.2?05:05
rolandchanYep. the first etherpad is the minutes from the last meeting05:05
ozstackerta05:05
rolandchanthe agenda is basically the same.05:05
rolandchanI'm not taking notes in real time, I'm not that fast :)05:05
rolandchanOK, so first item is discussion on the working group charter.05:06
ozstackerok05:06
FleetDCok05:06
shane-wangok05:06
rolandchanthe last meeting seems to have concluded that the top diversity focus areas are: gender, geograph and culture. And then religion, age, disability other areas of interest.05:07
ozstackerYes that looks right05:08
shane-wangtotally agree05:08
FleetDCThat was the hot topic05:08
rolandchanI don't mind that being a priority list, I'm not sure we should be particularly limiting in the charter itself.05:08
rolandchanthe existing charter has a long list of ways people differ.05:10
rolandchanperhaps it's a bit unwieldly, but in the absence of a counter-proposal that is inclusive but brief, I'm happy to accept the charter as written.05:10
ozstackerYes I think that's a great list, and would be happy to accept it as written.05:11
shane-wangme too05:12
shane-wangwould be happy to accept it as written05:12
rolandchanI don't think there's any call for votes at this stage. Shall we move on?05:12
shane-wangyes05:13
FleetDCyes05:13
rolandchanOK. Second item was an update from Kavit on the Diversity Policy. Kavit is on leave, returning Monday.05:13
rolandchanUnofortunately, I don't have an update to provide on his behalf.05:14
ozstackerok no worries.05:14
shane-wangleave it to the next meeting:)05:14
rolandchanSimilarly the next item was on the Ambassador program, from Niki.05:14
rolandchanso I think we'll have to move on from that as well.05:15
rolandchanlastly, we had the summit demographic data05:15
ozstackerWe probably just need to engage the ambassadors there and make them aware of these meeting times.05:16
shane-wangare we going to consider to change ambassador?05:16
ozstackerI can alert the Ambassador list05:16
shane-wangsorry, what is the Ambassador program?05:16
ozstackerhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Community/AmbassadorProgram05:16
shane-wang@ozstacker, thank you05:16
rolandchanThere's a good geographical spread, so we should be able to get involvement in all the diversity meetings.05:17
ozstackeryes05:17
ozstackerI can ping the ambassador list05:17
rolandchanozstacker takes an action05:18
rolandchan:)05:18
rolandchanSo, looking at the demographic data presented at the last meeting...05:19
rolandchanThe key points for me is that Euro and APAC attendances seem to site ~10% for out-of-region summits.05:20
rolandchanand perhaps altanta wasn't a very popular destination ;)05:20
ozstackerYeah I didn't go to that one :-)05:21
shane-wangI did go05:22
shane-wangbut it was a long trip from China05:22
rolandchanIndeed.05:22
shane-wanglonger than west coast05:22
rolandchanIndia, China, Japan seem to be strongly represented in out of region attendances.05:23
rolandchanI think this is a good point, although having actual numbers rather than rankings would make me more certain.05:24
ozstackerYes. Data.05:25
rolandchanany other comments on the summit data or the travel program information presented?05:25
ozstackerNa05:25
rolandchanOK. lastly the Women of OpenStack program data.05:26
rolandchanthere's a good upward trend there.05:26
shane-wang:)05:27
rolandchannoting that there was a lot of activity at Vancouver, it will be interesting to see what happens in Tokyo.05:27
ozstackerYes. It's been a well supported and publicised program.05:27
ozstackerI guess our goal is to see other programs supported as well.05:28
rolandchanI think the intern sponsorship program is important, in the sense that concrete actions are taken.05:28
rolandchanI think action that directly affects people are something that a broader diversity program will have to do05:29
rolandchanAny other business? I have one item.05:30
ozstackernothing from me05:30
shane-wangno from me05:30
rolandchanOK.05:30
ozstackerAlthough I dont know why we dont have these meeting sin the meeting channels05:31
rolandchanI don't know either.05:31
ozstackerThere's a bunch of folks lurking there and we could encorage participation just by being there?05:31
rolandchanThat's not my experience, but maybe.05:32
rolandchanobviously attendance is a bit down on the previous meeting.05:32
ozstackerThen for other general discussion, the openstack-community channel is quite idle.05:32
rolandchanOther than pushing the diversity messages in the mailling list, what else can be done to encourage attendance from this side of the world.05:32
ozstackerMake it a highlight topic at the upcoming summit.05:33
shane-wangyes agree05:33
rolandchansuggest to the ambassadors that the diversity program should become part of their message.05:33
ozstackerI'm drafting the email to them right now.05:34
rolandchancool.05:34
rolandchananything else?05:34
ozstackernope05:34
shane-wangdiversity mtg should have more attendees05:34
shane-wangno05:35
shane-wangis this meeting log public?05:35
rolandchanOK.05:35
FleetDCnope05:35
rolandchanyup05:35
ozstackeryes05:35
shane-wangok05:35
rolandchanit will be when I tell the bot to end the meeting.05:35
rolandchanOK. Lets close then.05:36
rolandchanThanks everyone!05:36
rolandchan#endmeeting05:36
FleetDCok thank you05:36
openstackMeeting ended Thu Jul 16 05:36:25 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)05:36
shane-wangthanks, bye05:36
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_working_group_2/2015/diversity_working_group_2.2015-07-16-05.00.html05:36
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_working_group_2/2015/diversity_working_group_2.2015-07-16-05.00.txt05:36
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_working_group_2/2015/diversity_working_group_2.2015-07-16-05.00.log.html05:36
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