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| kavit | #startmeeting Diversity Workgroup APAC 24-09-2015 | 05:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 24 05:00:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kavit. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_workgroup_apac_24_09_2015' | 05:00 |
| kavit | hello all | 05:00 |
| kavit | Roll Call | 05:00 |
| rolandchan | hello! | 05:00 |
| rolandchan | Roland Chan, Aptira. | 05:00 |
| kavit | Kavit Munshi, Aptira | 05:00 |
| ozstacker | Tristan Goode, Guess where! | 05:01 |
| rolandchan | I have several inappropriate answers. | 05:01 |
| ozstacker | Tristan Goode, Aptira :-) | 05:02 |
| kavit | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStackDiversity.12 | 05:02 |
| kavit | #topic Final review of the survey | 05:02 |
| rolandchan | Yep. It's done. Got some feedback from Egle, which was incorporated. | 05:03 |
| kavit | there were some changes to the survey text etc, hows the final review going? | 05:03 |
| rolandchan | unfortunately, the i18n team were flat out on the Mitaka release, so we're only sending out in English. | 05:03 |
| kavit | ah cool, so its good to go out but only in English? | 05:03 |
| * fifieldt wanders in | 05:03 | |
| rolandchan | finished. I sent the text to Lauren. so will be working with her on distribution | 05:04 |
| rolandchan | Yes, english only. I'm afraid. | 05:05 |
| rolandchan | irony not lost either :( | 05:05 |
| kavit | ok cool, I dont that can be helped | 05:05 |
| kavit | :( | 05:05 |
| kavit | i8n resources hard to come by | 05:05 |
| rolandchan | To be fair, they team were keen to help, but just flat out. | 05:05 |
| kavit | maybe we plan a bit better for the next time we need to do a survey | 05:06 |
| rolandchan | I guess the lesson is: don't cram things into the end of the cycle. | 05:06 |
| kavit | yeah summit time, busy time | 05:06 |
| fifieldt | so the "minority sexuality" wording is still in there? | 05:06 |
| kavit | anyway next topic? unless there are other comments? | 05:06 |
| rolandchan | I'm out of updates. | 05:06 |
| rolandchan | fifieldt: yeah. | 05:07 |
| fifieldt | still seems wrong to me | 05:07 |
| rolandchan | it has problems. | 05:07 |
| rolandchan | but I can't come up with anything. | 05:08 |
| fifieldt | best practice is to make it a free text field | 05:08 |
| rolandchan | only if you want the detail | 05:09 |
| fifieldt | got it | 05:10 |
| kavit | OK | 05:10 |
| kavit | #topic Messaging at Tokyo Summit | 05:10 |
| kavit | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Diversity_WG_Tokyo_Messaging | 05:11 |
| kavit | Please review and contribute to the link above | 05:11 |
| rolandchan | "Join Diversity Working Group" :) | 05:11 |
| rolandchan | thanks. will take a look at it later. | 05:12 |
| kavit | I think the big issue for me is the lack of momentum in the smaller user groups after a few initial meetups | 05:13 |
| kavit | maybe we could be supporting them better? maybe we should have a survey for this in the future, to find out where things could go better | 05:14 |
| kavit | fifieldt, you have any thoughts on this | 05:14 |
| kavit | ? | 05:14 |
| fifieldt | many :) | 05:14 |
| rolandchan | There's a critical mass situation. | 05:15 |
| fifieldt | the ambassador program was created to provide mentors for cases like this | 05:15 |
| fifieldt | but what rolandchan notes is true | 05:15 |
| fifieldt | in Australia, for example, there was early realisation that each individual city alone could not sustain a user group due to this | 05:15 |
| fifieldt | and so a national umbrella was created | 05:15 |
| kavit | I think we realised the same thing in India | 05:15 |
| fifieldt | indeed | 05:16 |
| fifieldt | and the African continent could suffer similarly | 05:16 |
| fifieldt | South America, luckily, has a lot of open source proponents in the more populous nations | 05:16 |
| fifieldt | early identification of those people with drive is key | 05:17 |
| kavit | maybe we ask the groups to do two or three meetups a year and help present stuff by google hangouts or something, might be a good idea to get some of the vendors onboard as well by providing venues | 05:17 |
| fifieldt | and getting them mentors and a path forward | 05:17 |
| kavit | if people see value in the content, they will definitely come | 05:17 |
| fifieldt | this is true - content and speakers are great, but we don't want to be too proscriptive :) | 05:17 |
| fifieldt | they key is to listen to the needs first | 05:18 |
| kavit | we are seeing 40 to 50 people atleast even in smaller cities | 05:18 |
| fifieldt | so your survey idea (even if completed by direct email) could be a go-er | 05:18 |
| fifieldt | I would like the ambassadors to be more proactive in contacting the groups in their region to ask about these kind of things | 05:18 |
| fifieldt | and I think the personal relationship would be more beneficial than a surveymonkey link :) | 05:18 |
| kavit | fifieldt, maybe have a break in period of new user groups, with two meetups where ambassadors help | 05:18 |
| kavit | with content etc | 05:19 |
| fifieldt | if they need it, sure :) | 05:19 |
| fifieldt | but it should not be proscribed, in my opinion | 05:19 |
| fifieldt | assess and assist, assess and assist | 05:19 |
| rolandchan | It sounds like we might need to make sure the ambassadors have a pool of people to perform specific types of assistance. | 05:20 |
| rolandchan | when we identify what those types are. | 05:20 |
| rolandchan | eg: if we need content presented. | 05:21 |
| rolandchan | the ambassdors might not be able to handle 50 new meetup groups with that need. | 05:21 |
| fifieldt | yes, the ambassadors should be able to assist in identifying speakers, sponsors, etc | 05:21 |
| fifieldt | the ambassador program scales :) | 05:21 |
| rolandchan | Something to mention when recruiting for people to participate in diversity programs. | 05:22 |
| kavit | cool | 05:23 |
| kavit | this segues nicely into the next topic | 05:24 |
| kavit | #topic Geo Diversity Update | 05:24 |
| kavit | so I had sent an email out to amabssaors and rolandchan reached out to the gold members with global reach but we havent see a lot of people bite | 05:25 |
| kavit | we should keep at it | 05:25 |
| rolandchan | on the same actions? or trying something new? | 05:26 |
| kavit | same actions, join the meeting regularly | 05:27 |
| kavit | participate | 05:27 |
| kavit | anything new to add to the agenda? | 05:30 |
| kavit | any comments about things discussed? | 05:30 |
| rolandchan | Not really. I don't want to talk too much about actions without some data | 05:30 |
| kavit | cool | 05:30 |
| rolandchan | We could have a theoretical discussion about how to boost minority participation in a democratic environment. | 05:31 |
| ozstacker | I still think moving this meeting to a meeting channel is worthwhile. | 05:31 |
| kavit | I think I need a gavel so I can go "ADJOURNED" at the end of these meetings :) | 05:31 |
| rolandchan | put it to a vote, and get it voted on next week too. | 05:31 |
| kavit | ozstacker, you want to put the issue to a vote? I will add it to the agenda | 05:32 |
| rolandchan | yeah. | 05:32 |
| rolandchan | I wanna use the voting functionality. | 05:33 |
| ozstacker | Yeah ok | 05:33 |
| ozstacker | Some drop in participation might be interesting. | 05:34 |
| rolandchan | bit live having a meeting in the front bar of a pub. | 05:35 |
| rolandchan | bit like. | 05:35 |
| kavit | OK we cant vote for it now, too few of us | 05:35 |
| rolandchan | We can cast votes surely. | 05:35 |
| kavit | #startvote | 05:37 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 05:37 |
| kavit | #startvote Move #openstack-diversity to one of the openstack meeting channels? Yes, No | 05:37 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Move #openstack-diversity to one of the openstack meeting channels? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 05:37 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 05:37 |
| fifieldt | #vote yes | 05:37 |
| fifieldt | #vote Yes | 05:37 |
| ozstacker | #vote yes | 05:38 |
| ozstacker | #vote Yes | 05:38 |
| kavit | #vote Iwillvoteafterlookingatwhatrolandchanvotesfor | 05:39 |
| openstack | kavit: Iwillvoteafterlookingatwhatrolandchanvotesfor is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No. | 05:39 |
| kavit | :) | 05:39 |
| rolandchan | sorry. playing with the cat | 05:39 |
| rolandchan | #vote yes | 05:39 |
| kavit | #vote Yes | 05:39 |
| kavit | capital Y rolandchan | 05:39 |
| kavit | i think | 05:39 |
| rolandchan | #vote Yes | 05:39 |
| rolandchan | #catvote no | 05:39 |
| kavit | #endvote | 05:40 |
| openstack | Voted on "Move #openstack-diversity to one of the openstack meeting channels?" Results are | 05:40 |
| openstack | Yes (4): rolandchan, kavit, ozstacker, fifieldt | 05:40 |
| ozstacker | very good. | 05:40 |
| kavit | ok anything else? | 05:42 |
| fifieldt | lunch :) | 05:42 |
| kavit | no? | 05:43 |
| kavit | ending meeting | 05:43 |
| rolandchan | very good | 05:43 |
| kavit | #endmeeting | 05:43 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 24 05:43:10 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_workgroup_apac_24_09_2015/2015/diversity_workgroup_apac_24_09_2015.2015-09-24-05.00.html | 05:43 |
| ozstacker | adios | 05:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_workgroup_apac_24_09_2015/2015/diversity_workgroup_apac_24_09_2015.2015-09-24-05.00.txt | 05:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_workgroup_apac_24_09_2015/2015/diversity_workgroup_apac_24_09_2015.2015-09-24-05.00.log.html | 05:43 |
| rolandchan | lawyers | 05:43 |
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