Monday, 2018-06-18

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spotz#startmeeting diversity-wg19:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 18 19:00:39 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: diversity-wg)"19:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'diversity_wg'19:00
spotz#topic roll call19:00
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spotzI know it's a light agenda and aprice is still in the UC meeting we're having19:01
apriceo/19:01
apriceI will bounce between but did want to provide an update on the survey since that's the main agenda item19:01
spotzYeah, we'll see if anyone shows. We can alsways do the update for the log and then close it out19:02
apricesounds good19:02
* fungi showed19:02
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fungi(better late than never!)19:02
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mrhillsmano/19:03
spotzfungi: Hey19:03
cemason\o19:03
spotzhey mrhillsman (our fellow double meeting person:))19:03
spotzwelcome cemason19:03
cemasonhello  :)19:03
spotzOk aprice is talking in the other channel so I'll get us started over here and then we'll do her update on the survey19:06
spotz#topic Diversity Related Suggestions19:07
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spotzSo per my action item from last meeting I emailed Erin, claire, and KendallW so see if it would be possible to get at least our top 2 asks. Alcohol free area and no photos please with the gender pronouns as a third ask19:08
spotzSo far no reply to that email or my follow up one so I'll hit them up again. I'm not sure if they were at the events or on vacation last week19:09
spotzI know there was positive feedback to the alcohol free suggestion during the feedback session so I think at least that we could have by Berlin and possibly if needed the PTG19:10
apricespotz: I can ping them since I am sitting with Kendall now :)19:11
spotzaprice: Ok ping when you can19:11
spotzYou ready here aprice?19:11
apriceI think that I am done in the UC meeting, so I can provide an update now19:11
spotz#topic Diversity Survey update19:12
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apriceI took the questions that were in the etherpad and put them in SurveyMonkey and would love some testers and feedback: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/OpenStackDiversity19:12
apriceseveral of the questions are conditional so if you select yes / no, your next question may vary if we added an optional "provide more information" followup19:12
spotz#link https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/OpenStackDiversity19:12
apriceone thing that I did want to note: there were places that we did not indicate "Prefer not to say" and I think that we should either add to all or make sure that all of the questions that should have it do19:13
apriceI think I added it to one question that didn't have it since I thought it should, but happy to make any changes19:14
spotzaprice yeah and I'll add on, if you're going through and think a question needs an other added, or to be multiple response and it's not let us know as well19:14
apricethe other thing I need to figure out is the country question. It is currently open ended, but I am planning to do a dropdown with all of the options19:14
apricespotz ++19:14
spotzYeah that needs a dropdown or we'll be evaluating it by hand for amonth19:14
apriceyeah, I couldnt get the comprehensive list to copy for me earlier, so I went with a placeholder :)19:15
fungii recall there were also concerns expressed in the last meeting that the americentric ethnicity checklist (from the usa census bureau) might not make sense in a more global context, but in general the survey is looking good. thanks!19:15
spotzI don't want to put the link out on the mailing list, but I'll put it in the channel topic19:16
spotzfungi: I thought you guys removed it after the meeting ended when you and okiko were still working on it?19:16
spotzBut yeah at the CHAOSS meeting we talked about the importance of the question but no one had a really great way of wording it yet19:17
fungii still see it in the draft survey there19:17
spotzAhh I thought you were putting notes on the etherpad so had communicated that to aprice. We'll pull it for now19:18
apriceyep - I can pull it19:18
spotzBut that's kinda why I'd like folks on the channel to go through it without putting it on the Foundation list and thinking it's ready19:19
aprice+119:19
fungi#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-survey-spring-2018_draft19:19
fungithat pad, right?19:19
spotzBeing on the Foundation list is great for us being transparent but not so much for us doing planning:)19:20
spotz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-survey-spring-2018_final19:20
apriceoh I was pulling from here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-survey-spring-2018_final19:20
fungiaha, thanks, yes i was looking at the old one, sorry19:20
spotzfinal has all the ethers pulled together19:20
fungii noted pulling out the ethnicity one in the final pad now, sorry we didn't note that in there sooner19:21
spotzno prob, appreciated you two continuing when we ran over and I had to bail19:22
cemasoncan anyone add feedback to the etherpad?19:22
spotzcemason: Yep though we're really at the clean up stage to get this released19:24
apriceok - I removed the ethnicity question from the survey so if you refresh or retake, it should be gone19:24
spotzUnless we've totally messed up and need to scrap19:24
spotzAnything else on the survey if not I'll move us to open discussion19:25
fungii've got nothing. excellent progress!19:26
cemasonjust noticed one small technical thing and made a note. thanks19:27
spotzSweet thanks cemason. I'll admit we've been working on it since December so will be happy to get it out the door:)19:27
spotz#topic Open Discussion19:28
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: diversity-wg)"19:28
spotzAnyone have anything? So we attempt to do something at PTG/OPS meetup?19:28
spotzSo=should... no I don't know where the other letters went...19:28
mrhillsman:)19:31
fungii'll be at the ptg/ops meetup and happy to join in any discussions as long as they don't overlap something else i absolutely have to be in19:31
mrhillsmansame19:32
spotzMaybe we can snag a table during lunch or during a break and just be avaialble if needed.19:32
spotzAnyone have anything else? Otherwise folks can have 25 minutes back19:34
fungii'm up for any of those options, but the ptg is really designed to make it easy for us to conveniently schedule ad hoc meetings so don't _have_ to overload a lunch break (unlike the summit/forum)19:34
spotzMy first one:)19:34
fungiwe have an irc bot which can schedule stuff for you. it's awesome19:35
spotzCool beans19:36
fungi#link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ptgbot/tree/README.rst19:36
spotzOk I'm gonna close this out, thanks for coming everyone and the survey feedback!19:36
fungithanks spotz!19:36
spotz#endmeeting19:36
*** openstack changes topic to "Etherpad for Diversity WG Forum ideas - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-forum Diversity Survey draft - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-survey-spring-2018_draft"19:36
openstackMeeting ended Mon Jun 18 19:36:56 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)19:36
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2018/diversity_wg.2018-06-18-19.00.html19:36
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2018/diversity_wg.2018-06-18-19.00.txt19:37
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2018/diversity_wg.2018-06-18-19.00.log.html19:37
apricethanks everyone!19:37
spotzNow to rmember how to reset the topic:)19:37
fungi /msg chanserv #openstack-diversity topic This is my new topic19:37
spotzheheh, always ask when fungi is around:)19:38
spotzfungi saying I'm not authorized:(19:40
fungispotz: you need to identify your nick with the nickserv first19:42
spotzbah must have lost it on a reboot19:42
fungichanserv won't trust you if nickserv hasn't identified you19:42
ildikovspotz should be trusted! :)19:42
fungiit's a security measure to keep someone from impersonating you and then using your nick's permissions19:43
*** ChanServ changes topic to "Please review the survey at https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/OpenStackDiversity and let spotz and/or aprice know if there's anything that needs updating per http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2018/diversity_wg.2018-06-18-19.00.log.html"19:43
spotzThere we go, nice and spammy:)19:43
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