Monday, 2018-12-03

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spotz#startmeeting Diversity-wg19:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Dec  3 19:00:44 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Diversity-wg)"19:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'diversity_wg'19:00
spotz#topic Roll Call19:00
*** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Diversity-wg)"19:00
* diablo_rojo waves19:00
* cdent is somewhat here19:01
spotzHey19:01
fungiohai19:01
spotzcdent do you want me to move the meeting time part of the agenda up in case you need to go I know it's latish(sp)19:01
cdentspotz: no, my half here-ness isn't due to time, just the usual continuous partial attention on many things19:02
fungihow existential19:02
spotzOkie:)19:02
spotz#link https://doodle.com/poll/5fbg4uhsemgctqrx19:04
spotzFor those who haven't filled it out yet to give you a chance before we get there:)19:04
spotz#topic Summit Recap19:04
*** openstack changes topic to "Summit Recap (Meeting topic: Diversity-wg)"19:04
spotzSo I have to say I walked away from the summit with the feeling there was a lot of missed opportunities for this group. While there was a keynote we weren't involves in it and there was no mention of our programs(mentoring was briefly mentioned) and the survey at all anywhere. At the networking lunch it was nice to see a wider group of people but again another missed opportunity for this group to get our pro19:09
spotzgrams out, it wasn't even known we drove the chacnge from WoO to diversity. We had a good turnout for speed mentoring, it was a little disorganized then in the past but notes for next time are to make our own table signs and numbers. Our 2 WG/BoFo sessions were barely attended but that might have been the room location19:09
fungii think it was entirely that19:10
fungii had sessions i needed to be in bookending those in the other end of the venue19:10
cdentI think part of the reason the summit as a whole felt weirdly relaxed was because there were clear boundaries in space between things, too clear19:10
cdentlike, not relaxed good19:11
cdentbut relaxed like "we've not quite got the time/energy to talk about stuff"19:11
cdentso let's just kinda hang out19:11
cdentand that was nice19:11
cdentbut felt ineffective19:11
spotzThe ghost tour I think was a success we had a few new faces there. There was no alcohol free section at the mixer, there were options but they were next to beer. And no one knew about the gender stickers until the feedback sessions:( They apparently arrived on Wednesday19:12
fungiyeah, those were unfortunately delayed19:12
fungilike the socks which were stuck in customs for a week19:12
fungithe pronoun stickers were supposed to be on hand that weekend19:13
fungionce they arrived at least they got put out at registration and at the osf staff booth19:13
fungibut... disappointing to say the least19:14
spotzI know it wasn't my best summit and it wasn't for lack of trying to be everywhere, coordinate and so on19:15
spotzAnyways hoping Denver will be better and this group will get more exposure and out of it. The Mentoring panel actually turned ito a BoF session as a few people in the audience were active so maybe we'll manage to revive that19:17
spotzAnything else on summit?19:18
fungiit was good to see you all19:18
spotzIt was good to see you too:)19:19
spotz#topic Diversity Survey19:21
*** openstack changes topic to "Diversity Survey (Meeting topic: Diversity-wg)"19:21
spotzaprice is in the UC meeting or at least the channel. I don't think anyone actually started our meeting over there. I had sent out another email before summit and a tweet or 2. I know Ell never did the SU article as she got busy and is travelling. Last count we only had 43 responses which is why the lack of 'support' at summit really hurt19:22
apriceo/19:23
spotzHey19:24
spotzAny chance we can get a count update?19:24
apriceSure let me pull19:25
cdentI probably knew this, but have forgotten (see above about attention): How/when/where was the survey announced?19:27
apriceAnd that's good feedback on the Summit support. I think with all of the things going on, we just have to be very organized on the things we want to promote. Happy to get the Summit team involved in a broader debrief if you would like spotz19:27
spotzaprice: sure19:28
spotzcdent back in Ausgust, then again in early November. I'd have to check sent for exact dates19:28
fungito mailing lists, right?19:28
apricethere are 88 responses19:29
spotzOk so we've doubles atleast with the reminder but I think still too low to send for analysis19:30
diablo_rojoSo its only been sent to ML's?19:30
spotzfungi: yeah all the lists except the language ones I think19:30
spotzAnd my twitter feed19:30
diablo_rojospotz, it could go out from the OpenStack twitter handle too19:31
diablo_rojoaprice, can you do that? Or should I poke Sunny?19:31
apricediablo_rojo i can and I think that we sent a few tweets from the openstack handle when we first launched.19:32
apricewe are also doing bi-weekly community newsletters and while the first one is about to ship, we can include it in the next one.19:32
diablo_rojoaprice, oh okay I must've missed those.19:32
fungiany volunteers to do the superuser article ellopunk was originally planning to write?19:32
diablo_rojoaprice, lol just messaged you/chris about that.19:33
spotzfungi: I can try to get it done, it won't be the wordiest though19:34
diablo_rojospotz, I'm happy to look at/build out stuff if you have a first draft you want to share19:35
spotzAnd at this point we might not want to push anything until after first as folks emails will be swamped if they took time off19:35
spotzdiablo_rojo: ok19:37
spotzAnything else on the survey?19:37
apricei have a question19:37
spotzok19:37
apricehow many submissions are we hoping to get to before closing? Or will it just be open?19:37
spotzLast time I think we had at least 250, I'd be happy if we got half that was the overall population of the community has decreased. We just need enough of a sample size to be valid19:40
spotzThat make sense?19:40
apriceyep, makes sense.19:41
spotzOk last topic19:41
spotz#topic meeting time19:41
*** openstack changes topic to "meeting time (Meeting topic: Diversity-wg)"19:41
spotzSo from the 4 responses, it looks like moving the meeting up an hour, at 18:00UTC Mondays has the most responses of 4. So that for now would be noonCDT, 2:00 EDT, 6:00 England and 7:00 Germany. With going to an hour later when we time shift19:43
spotzSO a little earlier for cdent and cmurphy or as rocky was a maybe we could go to 17:0019:44
spotzCourse I did just schedule something at work for that time19:44
cdentI can adjust, quite a lot, especialy on mondays19:45
fungithat time works fine for me, but i'll make just about any option work so didn't bother to fill out the chart19:46
diablo_rojoYeah same, my Mondays are largely empty19:46
spotzOk lets go with 18:00 as it had all 4 votes in green then19:46
spotzI'll update the repo and send something out to the lists later. Anyone have anything else on meeting times?19:47
spotzOk moving on19:49
fungithanks for working through that!19:49
spotzNP19:49
spotz#topic Open Discussion19:49
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Diversity-wg)"19:49
spotzIf anyone has anything?19:49
spotzGoing once19:51
cdentnot me, thanks for keeping the ball rolling :)19:51
spotzGoing Twice19:51
spotzYou're welcome cdent19:51
spotz#endmeeting19:51
*** openstack changes topic to "Please review the survey at https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/OpenStackDiversity and let spotz and/or aprice know if there's anything that needs updating per http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2018/diversity_wg.2018-06-18-19.00.log.html"19:51
diablo_rojoYes thank you spotz!19:51
openstackMeeting ended Mon Dec  3 19:51:26 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)19:51
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openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2018/diversity_wg.2018-12-03-19.00.log.html19:51
spotzEveryone gets 9 minutes back19:51
cdentI think I'm going to discontinue my attention19:54
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fungithanks for chairing spotz!19:56
spotzMy pleasure and thanks all for coming20:00
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