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| spotz | meeting in 30 | 16:32 |
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| * fungi should be around | 16:33 | |
| fungi | thanks for the warning! | 16:33 |
| spotz | fungi: Still need to archive the woo list, just keeps slipping my mind but no one has posted on it | 16:38 |
| fungi | cool, i'm available to help whenever | 16:38 |
| spotz | thanks maybe later this week. | 16:41 |
| fungi | wfm | 16:42 |
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| SWDevAngel | Hi | 17:03 |
| aprice | hey there | 17:03 |
| megheisler | Hi | 17:03 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 17:03 |
| fungi | howdy | 17:03 |
| spotz | #startmeeting diversity-wg | 17:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 15 17:05:00 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: diversity-wg)" | 17:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_wg' | 17:05 |
| spotz | #topic roll call | 17:05 |
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| cmurphy | o/ | 17:05 |
| spotz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-wg-agenda | 17:06 |
| spotz | Just updated the agenda real quick, 3 items grace hopper, mentoring and Shanghai | 17:06 |
| spotz | #topic Grace Hopper | 17:06 |
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| spotz | So Ell will no longer be going to Grace Hopper so we need to find another lead mentor or pull out. I'll be sending out an email to FOundation and discuss lists in the hope of finding someone. If there's a pair who work together I'll let someone go in my place. | 17:08 |
| spotz | Only issue is you need to self fund or your company send you. Grace Hopper only provides the pass and it's in Orlando this year | 17:08 |
| spotz | They are asking for some additional information by 7/21 so I think we need to pull out by then if we're pulling out | 17:09 |
| spotz | Anyone not familiar with Grace Hopper and the Open Source Day? | 17:10 |
| fungi | 6 days, by my watch | 17:10 |
| megheisler | I'm familiar with Grace Hopper but not the Open Source Day | 17:11 |
| spotz | Yeah, I'm a little messed up after a horse related concussion on Saturday:( So didn't get the email out over the weekend | 17:11 |
| fungi | oh no! | 17:13 |
| spotz | So Open Source Day is an almost all day event on Thursday 10/3. Different projects participate in support of a humanitarian activity. Each project will have X amount of participants who sign up and Y amount of mentors though except for the first year I did it as a helper for Egle no one has known any OpenStack | 17:13 |
| SWDevAngel | @Spotz! OMG! | 17:14 |
| megheisler | ah ok | 17:14 |
| spotz | So in the past everyone had their own devstack and published a wordpress installation through Heat and then customized it for thei humanitarian effort | 17:14 |
| spotz | From feedback last year, we were going to run through git and gerrit lunch and learn stuff to start and then have teams working on a project to customize a Horizon theme for their humanitarian effort | 17:15 |
| spotz | There's a demo at the end of the day, hence having something showable | 17:15 |
| spotz | CityNetwork has agreed to donating the instance for us to use. | 17:16 |
| spotz | So that's the gist of the session but except for the git and gerrit nothing has been put together yet | 17:17 |
| spotz | and that should have been instances... one for each team | 17:17 |
| spotz | Each project is required to have 2 main mentors, hence we need to find at least 1 more person or pull | 17:18 |
| spotz | If anyone is going and wants to step up that'd be great. The one bad thing is you give up one day of the conference to do this and so do the participants | 17:20 |
| fungi | this might also be worth posting a call for volunteers on the openstack-discuss mailing list? granted we need to know by the end of this week | 17:20 |
| spotz | Yesh I wrote an email up and Kendall reviewed it and then tree... this is the first day I've been out of bed since last week | 17:21 |
| fungi | oof | 17:21 |
| spotz | plus side is I can't remember tree:) | 17:21 |
| fungi | a consolation perhaps, but memory loss is never good | 17:22 |
| spotz | So just wanted to update everyine see if anyone here wanted to step up but I'll get that out next | 17:22 |
| spotz | fungi Well I can't hold it against the horse if I can't remember it. Pretty sure something spooked him and he bolted but that's my guess | 17:22 |
| spotz | Any one have any questions, comments? | 17:23 |
| spotz | #topic Mentoring | 17:25 |
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| SWDevAngel | Sadly I won't be attending Grace Hopper. | 17:25 |
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| spotz | We had a great meeting with Jill, Ell, petevg and megheisler instead of our usual meeting and I think it went well as far as a turnover of information | 17:26 |
| SWDevAngel | Amy, that injury sounds serious. Be careful please! | 17:26 |
| spotz | SWDevAngel: Yeah no riding for a month, no driving for.a bit. Hoping to atleast check on the pony today | 17:26 |
| fungi | jimmy suggested checking the osf speakers bureau... here's one who lives in orlando so may not need funding to travel/lodge? https://www.openstack.org/community/speakers/profile/9324/mariaangelica-bracho | 17:27 |
| spotz | diablo_rojo also reached out to Paris from Kubernetes but I don't think we got a reply from her as we'd changed to cohort mentoring based ont heir success | 17:27 |
| spotz | hoetown orando and country japan?:) | 17:28 |
| fungi | er, not sure if that profile means they live in orlando or are from orlando but live in japan | 17:28 |
| fungi | yeah, long shot i guess ;) | 17:28 |
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| spotz | I was gonna pay my fight and bum a room and a truck while there so as cheaply as possibly but have friends there | 17:28 |
| spotz | megheisler: Has anything taken place after the meeting you want to mention? | 17:29 |
| SWDevAngel | Maria lives in Florida. She works for Red Hat. She's AWESOME!!! | 17:29 |
| spotz | SWDevAngel: Ahh cool, so the Orlando part is probably correct | 17:30 |
| fungi | aha, i think "country: japan" may mean "willing to travel to japan for speaking engagement" | 17:30 |
| megheisler | yeah, an email was sent out to people who had previously expressed interest in mentoring/being mentored. We got responses from about five people interested in being mentored and one interested in being a mentor | 17:30 |
| megheisler | a small group but still we got responses so that is good | 17:30 |
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| fungi | that's not bad at all | 17:31 |
| spotz | Looks like mostof the usual suspects on the mentoring channel but hopefully this small group will be active:) Even if 2 people are active we've made progress | 17:32 |
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| diablo_rojo | spotz, havent seen a reply yet either | 17:32 |
| diablo_rojo | but I might see her in person this week | 17:32 |
| spotz | diablo_rojo: ok | 17:32 |
| diablo_rojo | so I can poke her when/if I do | 17:32 |
| spotz | megheisler: If you can encourage them to say hi on the list that might help:) | 17:33 |
| spotz | Anything else anyone want to add? | 17:33 |
| megheisler | will do! I also plan to talk to petevg this week and get a set plan for the people who showed interest | 17:33 |
| SWDevAngel | Paris you mean? She's SUPER active on the Kubernetes slack channel, so if you ping her there you'll probably get a quick response. Or DM on twitter usually works with her as well. | 17:33 |
| spotz | SWDevAngel: It was an intro type email so ideally we want a reply all:) | 17:34 |
| megheisler | great | 17:34 |
| spotz | Ok last tpoic | 17:35 |
| spotz | #topic Summit | 17:35 |
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| spotz | I've been seeing lots of emails from the projects to find out if folks were going and whether to get PTG space so I just wanted to put a feeler out if folks were planning on attending. Unless something happens I won't be there | 17:36 |
| SWDevAngel | I will also not be there. | 17:37 |
| fungi | i expect to be there unless my visa is rejected or we have more storm disasters this year | 17:37 |
| cmurphy | depends on a lot of unknowns but i'm moreorless expecting to be there | 17:37 |
| megheisler | I will not be there | 17:37 |
| fungi | it's a bad time of year for weather in my neck of the woods, unfortunately | 17:37 |
| spotz | You mean hurricane season fungi?:) | 17:38 |
| fungi | yeah, or hurricane cleanup season at the very least | 17:38 |
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| spotz | cmurphy and fungi - I know you both are usually busy. But when the time comes should I see about getting a WG slot? | 17:39 |
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| cmurphy | i would expect to be pretty occupied, not sure it would be worthwhile for fungi and i to have a room just for this | 17:40 |
| fungi | if it's just the two of us then hard to justify, but maybe worth also asking on the ml | 17:40 |
| spotz | I'm not sure if we have sponsorship for the Speed Mentoring and Diversity Lunch yet. | 17:40 |
| spotz | The session would mainly be to see if anyone was interested. Denver we had really good turnout compared to Berlin. I guess we get better turnout in the Spring ones | 17:42 |
| fungi | we'll almost certainly have a new audience in china, so making sure we offer some diversity-related discussion with them would make sense, i just don't know that i'll have the bandwidth to lead the effort | 17:42 |
| spotz | I think it's too early to know if Nicole would be there | 17:42 |
| fungi | i also don't know much about the diversity challenges in the local culture there, so bringing in some folks who are more familiar with that could help? | 17:43 |
| SWDevAngel | great idea @fungi! | 17:43 |
| fungi | (i especially have concerns around political sensitivities, and wouldn't want to venture into areas which make trouble for people) | 17:44 |
| spotz | Yeah even though we try to concentrate on the communities needs at hand it's hard to avoid larger issues | 17:45 |
| fungi | i have the impression there's a strong official push for conformity, and that could make some topics challenging to engage on | 17:45 |
| spotz | So it could to some degree be a good thing not to have a large precense:( | 17:45 |
| fungi | aprice: you've been, right? any feel for what we should expect if we want to cover diversity topics in shanghai? | 17:46 |
| fungi | or is it a "western" concept we should try to avoid being particularly vocal about? | 17:47 |
| aprice | i definitely think that it's a fine line. our coworker horace has mentioned that it doesnt always translate well and needs to have some additional context. | 17:47 |
| aprice | i think that it's still worth pursuing, but would definitely want to rely on someone local to help program the content | 17:47 |
| aprice | especially to avoid western assumptions and political sensitivity | 17:48 |
| fungi | great advice. thanks! | 17:49 |
| SWDevAngel | This is something you might also want to ask Paris about when you speak to her. She was one of the hosts of the D&I event at KubeCon Barcelona, and may have also hosted the one in Shanghai. If she did, she might have some insight, or could at least point to who was the host who could help advise. | 17:49 |
| SWDevAngel | Or Nithya. My guess is that Nithya (and/or Nicole) went to the Open Source Summit which was co-located with KubeCon Shanghai. If they did, they likely did D&I activities there. | 17:50 |
| spotz | And if we keep the issues to more recruiting and outreach from this group and the community vs 'larger' ones we might be ok as well | 17:51 |
| fungi | makes sense | 17:52 |
| spotz | Ok grace hopper email out | 17:52 |
| fungi | thanks spotz! | 17:53 |
| spotz | We definitely don't want to cause issues for anyone especially the foundation but I also don't want us to sit it out even if the only thing we accomplish is the 2 sponsored sessions over lunch | 17:53 |
| spotz | If no one is there to run things that becomes a non-issue | 17:53 |
| spotz | And with international events especially where visas are a concern attendance is always an issue | 17:54 |
| fungi | well, all events are international for most of the people in the world | 17:55 |
| spotz | True:) | 17:55 |
| spotz | 4 minutes | 17:56 |
| spotz | #topic Open Discussion | 17:56 |
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| SWDevAngel | We're hosting an event next week (kinda the OpenStack bday thing) where we're going to do a couple of D&I sessions as lightning talks. We haven't done that in a while in our user group, but last time we did it was really well received. One talk will be on burnout for sure. | 17:59 |
| fungi | are they going to be recorded/published? | 17:59 |
| SWDevAngel | which reminds me, @aprice I owe a few emails to Ashlee, etc. I'll try to get to that today. It's been hectic. | 17:59 |
| spotz | SWDevAngel: Major Headon did one at Texas Linuxfest I hear it was well received as most of his talks are | 17:59 |
| spotz | I'll be at the Austin celebration though may need to get hubby to drive me | 18:00 |
| SWDevAngel | Yes, we try and record all our meetups. The main talks are on Kata Containers, and Running K8s on OpenStack, and Edge Computing (Akraino) but we're doing community lightning talks also. And cupcakes of course. Should be a fun night! :) | 18:00 |
| fungi | SWDevAngel: cool, i hope someone circulates links to the videos for the rest of the community! those sound great | 18:01 |
| spotz | K8s on OpenStack should be a good one | 18:01 |
| SWDevAngel | Yeah, Red Hat is presenting that one | 18:01 |
| SWDevAngel | A person who was on the reference architecture group for that topic! We're psyched! | 18:01 |
| SWDevAngel | That topic always pulls a crowd. | 18:01 |
| SWDevAngel | I need to run to another meeting. Amy PLEASE take care of yourself!!!!! | 18:03 |
| SWDevAngel | Your injury sounds serious. Take it wayyyyy easy for a while! | 18:03 |
| spotz | Yeah I think I'mj gonna go nap for a bit. Thanks for coming everyone! | 18:03 |
| spotz | #endmeeting | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Please review the survey at https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/OpenStackDiversity and let spotz and/or aprice know if there's anything that needs updating per http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2018/diversity_wg.2018-06-18-19.00.log.html" | 18:03 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 15 18:03:54 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2019/diversity_wg.2019-07-15-17.05.html | 18:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2019/diversity_wg.2019-07-15-17.05.txt | 18:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2019/diversity_wg.2019-07-15-17.05.log.html | 18:04 |
| fungi | thanks again spotz!!! hope you have a speedy recovery | 18:04 |
| spotz | fungi: Will try | 18:04 |
| fungi | and i hope the horse is okay too | 18:04 |
| aprice | sounds good SWDevAngel! | 18:06 |
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| spotz | fungi: WIll let you know, gonna get a lift there in a few hours | 18:53 |
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