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| richm | another question about test_find_domain - this creates a domain random.example.com. - but there is no parent domain .example.com. - does designate allow creating a domain sub.example.com. if example.com. does not exist? | 16:06 |
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| mugsie | richm: yup | 16:26 |
| richm | ok | 16:26 |
| mugsie | for example acme.com could be maintained outside of Designate, but point the NS records for sub.acme.com could be pointed to designate | 16:27 |
| richm | ok | 16:29 |
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| richm | when a domain is created in IPA, at least one authoritative name server is required | 18:58 |
| richm | in addition, either there must already be an A/AAAA record for this server somewhere, or the IP address of the server can be given to ipa when creating the domain | 18:58 |
| richm | looks like designate allows you to create domains without these restrictions? | 18:59 |
| richm | or, in designate, is it up to the DNS server to set these? | 18:59 |
| mugsie | we do block unless an admin has created server via the servers API | 18:59 |
| mugsie | eg POST /v1/servers/ | 18:59 |
| richm | so in order to create a server, must there already be an A/AAAA record for that server somewhere? | 19:00 |
| richm | is there an association between a domain and a (name) server? | 19:01 |
| mugsie | A / AAAA record - yes | 19:01 |
| richm | but that A/AAAA record must have been created first, outside of designate? | 19:02 |
| mugsie | there is, currently in desingate all domains get all the servers defined | 19:02 |
| mugsie | currently, yes the record has to exist elsewhere | 19:02 |
| richm | ok | 19:02 |
| mugsie | it is generally done with Glue records | 19:02 |
| richm | is a glue record just an A/AAAA record? | 19:05 |
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| mugsie | yeh, generally on the dns server of the registrar | 19:09 |
| richm | ok | 19:09 |
| richm | can I use designate to create domain coke.com. and domain pepsi.com.? I would first have to create servers ns.coke.com.? ns.pepsi.com.? and then when I create domain coke.com., it would have authoritative name servers ['ns.coke.com.', 'ns.pepsi.com.']? | 19:13 |
| richm | and the same with domain pepsi.com.? | 19:13 |
| mugsie | yeah, you would have to tell the .com registrar to create a record for ns.coke.com / ns.pepsi.com in their DNS servers first, then you could use designate | 19:17 |
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| richm | so when I create the domain for coke.com., one of its authoritative name servers is ns.pepsi.com.? | 19:24 |
| richm | because when a domain is created, "currently in desingate all domains get all the servers defined"? | 19:25 |
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| richm | I'm sorry that my questions appear obtuse - I'm just trying to understand how this is supposed to work, in conjunction with the IPA backend | 19:40 |
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| mugsie | np :D | 19:51 |
| mugsie | give me a sec, am stuck on a call :( | 19:52 |
| richm | no worries | 20:11 |
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| mugsie | richm: yes, currently we don't support vanity nameservers for domains (eg ns.domain.tld) | 20:38 |
| mugsie | everyone uses the same ones | 20:38 |
| mugsie | eg in HP cloud, everyone has their nameservers set to nsx-x.hpclouddns.net | 20:38 |
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| richm | for example, in test_service.py, servers such as ns.example.org. and ns.example.com. are created | 20:40 |
| mugsie | yeah, they are just to test creating servers | 20:40 |
| richm | sure - but it sort of implies that ns.mydomain.tld. can be created | 20:41 |
| mugsie | yeah, i suppose it does. | 20:41 |
| richm | ok - with ipa, you cannot create a domain without a name server, and that name server must have an A/AAAA record | 20:42 |
| mugsie | does it have to be ns. the domain? | 20:42 |
| richm | no | 20:42 |
| richm | it can be anything | 20:42 |
| mugsie | so what we did was create the servers in advance, then allow people to use it | 20:42 |
| mugsie | the post to /servers just creates the SOA records | 20:43 |
| richm | right, using the powerdns backend | 20:43 |
| mugsie | sorry, populates the data for the SOA | 20:43 |
| mugsie | yes, and on bind it 1/2 did it as well | 20:43 |
| mugsie | the idea is that you tel designate that these are the servers used in the SOA, and have the backend use those values | 20:44 |
| mugsie | and the backend just sends the daata to the server | 20:44 |
| richm | ok - I think I can figure out how to make this work with ipa - thanks | 20:44 |
| mugsie | np | 20:44 |
| ekarlso | kiall: here dude ? | 20:57 |
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