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| kiall | zigo: yes, there will be Real Soon :) | 14:51 |
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| kiall | likely monday/tuesday | 14:52 |
| zigo | kiall: Good to know, thanks! | 14:52 |
| zigo | Will upload that to Sid as soon it's out. | 14:52 |
| kiall | Cool :) | 14:52 |
| kiall | Going to the summit this year BTW? | 14:52 |
| zigo | kiall: I hope so, yes. | 15:03 |
| zigo | I haven't booked my flight yet, but I'll do that soonish. | 15:03 |
| kiall | Cool - Looks like we'll have a good few people involved in Designate there (A bunch from HP/RackSpace/eBay/RedHat) | 15:04 |
| zigo | Will you have some design sessions? | 15:05 |
| zigo | kiall: Oh, and do you think you could try the package, and report to me any issue with it? | 15:05 |
| zigo | I have to admit I didn't really use it yet, so I can't tell if it works well... :( | 15:06 |
| zigo | I had no time for that, this release was crazy. I maintain now 129 Debian source packages only for OpenStack (plus those maintained in the Python module team), that's too much for a single person. | 15:06 |
| kiall | Yea - We'll have at least 1 session, plus a talk + a workshop | 15:06 |
| kiall | re testing - yep - got a repo/folder of debs? | 15:07 |
| kiall | zigo: lol .. 129 is defiantly on the too many side of things :) | 15:07 |
| zigo | kiall: Are you using Ubuntu or Debian? | 15:07 |
| zigo | I produce both... | 15:07 |
| zigo | Precise, Trusty or Wheezy! :) | 15:07 |
| zigo | Or Sid ... :P | 15:08 |
| kiall | I use Ubuntu, but can boot Debian VMs pretty easily ;) | 15:08 |
| zigo | If you want to try with Sid, then just use your normal Debian FTP mirror, the package is in Experimental until it's released. | 15:08 |
| zigo | Otherise, for Wheezy: | 15:09 |
| zigo | deb http://archive.gplhost.com/debian icehouse main | 15:09 |
| zigo | deb http://archive.gplhost.com/debian icehouse-backports main | 15:09 |
| zigo | (you will need both) | 15:09 |
| kiall | Cool.. Checking what debian versions we have on HP Cloud.. | 15:12 |
| kiall | Looks like just Wheezy.. Will have to DIY the sid VM locally instead | 15:13 |
| zigo | Well, I maintain the images, so you have the one I uploaded! :) | 15:13 |
| kiall | lol | 15:13 |
| kiall | Upload a Sid one then ;) (Yea.. I know, it's not that easy :P) | 15:13 |
| zigo | Well, Sid is a moving target, I'd have to upload it every day, that's not nice. | 15:14 |
| zigo | Just use Wheezy and upgrade it to Sid, IMO. | 15:14 |
| zigo | That's what everyone does. | 15:14 |
| kiall | I've never trusted upgrades ... I think I was bitten too many times with bad RHEL/suse upgrades years ago.. And Ubuntu upgrades theses days ;) | 15:15 |
| kiall | (and every windows upgrade ever, of course) | 15:15 |
| zigo | I do think Debian does a very good job with upgrades. | 15:15 |
| zigo | There's many people that tells how they're still using the same server from Potato until now with Wheezy. | 15:16 |
| zigo | Any upgrade fault is a bug in Debian. | 15:16 |
| zigo | And we don't release the next stable until all of these are solved. | 15:16 |
| zigo | Which leads me to say: it's going to be hell for me to provide upgrades from Essex, lol!:) | 15:16 |
| kiall | Yea, I've heard that... But it's never that easy.. Upgrading a clean install from 1 release to the next is "easy" .. It's once you've customized anything that the issues start :) | 15:17 |
| kiall | Also.. Upgrade from Essex == Impossible ;) | 15:17 |
| kiall | and.. VM #145 for today... please just work this time -_- | 15:19 |
| zigo | It is my strong opinion that OpenStack people should do something about "LTS" support. | 15:20 |
| zigo | With ", because I don't think 2 years is a lot. | 15:20 |
| kiall | Yea.. It's hard though with OpenStack moving so fast.. It'll eventually happen, but we're just not there yet.. and there's not enough end-user demand either | 15:20 |
| kiall | end-users are wanting the latest and greatest because so much new stuff is coming in.. | 15:21 |
| kiall | But.. As OpenStack gets into enterprise.. that'll all going to change | 15:21 |
| kiall | that's* | 15:21 |
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| zigo | I don't agree with this view. | 15:36 |
| zigo | There's a demand from users, and they aren't happy it moves so fast and they need to upgrade so often. | 15:36 |
| zigo | We have this feeling because the vocal persons are from RackSpace and HP. | 15:36 |
| kiall | HP is almost synonymous with Enterprise.. And we're defiantly feeling the pain of not having "LTS" style support for OpenStack .. But.. Yea, we also have some vocal proponents of Continuous Deployment... Par for the course at a company as big as HP ;)\ | 15:56 |
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| radclif | Hi everyone, got a question - will designate create a records for vms when they are created and if so will it use the vms hostname in the record. | 19:56 |
| radclif | * A records | 19:56 |
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