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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/designate: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/171939 | 07:03 |
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untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 10:01 |
untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1437699 | 10:01 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1437699 in Designate "mDNS should Handle Bad File Descriptor" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Ron Rickard (rjrjr) | 10:01 |
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eandersson | [17:33] <kodoku> ok so I can't use pdns on rhel 7, so go use bind | 10:15 |
eandersson | Any specific reason why pdns wont run on rhel7? | 10:15 |
ahu | from what we hear it works pretty well | 10:16 |
eandersson | I got a bit scared there for a moment :P | 10:24 |
ekarlso | i'd just use nsd4 rly... | 10:24 |
ekarlso | fast and easy to setup | 10:24 |
ekarlso | :P | 10:24 |
nihilifer | hello | 10:34 |
nihilifer | I have one question about this revert https://github.com/openstack/designate/commit/37c3952d5aa02948e050785e11957b2da72ccd0b | 10:34 |
nihilifer | I see that support of sink notification handlers in devstack caused CI failures | 10:35 |
nihilifer | is there any plan to revisit this support? | 10:35 |
nihilifer | it would be nice to have a possibility to test sink without manual config ;) | 10:36 |
Kiall | nihilifer: I actually have a review up to ad dit | 10:37 |
Kiall | add it* | 10:37 |
Kiall | Still some quirks tho | 10:38 |
Kiall | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170678/ | 10:38 |
nihilifer | Kiall: ok, that's great, thanks for information | 10:40 |
openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/designate: Restrict editing of managed records to policy based ACL https://review.openstack.org/171621 | 10:40 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/designate: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/171939 | 10:49 |
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kodoku | Hi Kiall ekarlson eandersson, I have a big question. | 12:56 |
kodoku | I have juno designate on Rhel 7 and I use pdns | 12:56 |
kodoku | but pdns on rhel 7 use new schema for database* | 12:57 |
kodoku | so How I can use pdns and juno designate on rhel 7 ? | 12:58 |
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Kiall | kodoku: any idea what the schema difference is? | 13:03 |
Kiall | Designate adds an extra column or two to track things, which is why we have migrations for the pDNS database, but, if there's something missing, we can likely add it. From memory, pDNS added a "disabled" column it needs recently, but I'm not familar with any other recent changes.. and I'm guessing rhel7 doesn't included the latest pDNS with that column. | 13:05 |
Kiall | ahu: Q actually, any reason pDNS doesn't provide DB migrations of some kind? | 13:05 |
Kiall | brb | 13:06 |
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ahu | https://doc.powerdns.com/md/authoritative/upgrading/ is what we provide | 13:07 |
mugsie | ah | 13:09 |
mugsie | kodoku: if you run the designate migration, and then run the sql from https://doc.powerdns.com/md/authoritative/upgrading/ it should work | 13:09 |
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Kiall | Right.. Our pDNS migrations are probably WAYY off them.. Heh. | 13:17 |
Kiall | I've not noticed the SQL upgrade scripts before! | 13:17 |
ahu | you are not the first to miss them, so perhaps we should improve there | 13:18 |
ahu | one thing we'd love to have is a schema version in the database | 13:18 |
Kiall | Yea, we keep that in the DB.. and you just "designate-manage database sync", and finds the current version, and runs each of the upgrade scripts | 13:20 |
Kiall | Far from ideal, but makes it simple.. Upgraded designate? Run `designate-manage database sync` and your DB will be updated, no matter what version it's currently on. | 13:21 |
Kiall | Anyway - Gotta run, back in an hour. | 13:21 |
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kodoku_ | Kiall re | 13:39 |
kodoku_ | So yes inded I have error when I start pdns like "disabled" column | 13:39 |
kodoku_ | even if I exec manage powerdns sync | 13:39 |
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kodoku_ | mugsie thx, how you launch designate migration ? | 13:47 |
mugsie | the "designate-manage powerdns sync" does it | 13:48 |
kodoku_ | ok | 13:49 |
mugsie | so, now that you ran that, run the sql snippets from the page ahu linked | 13:49 |
kodoku_ | ok | 13:49 |
mugsie | https://doc.powerdns.com/md/authoritative/upgrading/ | 13:49 |
kodoku_ | yes | 13:49 |
kodoku_ | on this page many script | 13:49 |
mugsie | and it should add in the columns | 13:49 |
mugsie | yeah - ahu would have a much better idea of which one to run | 13:49 |
mugsie | ahu: any input on ^ ? | 13:49 |
kodoku_ | ok | 13:50 |
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kodoku_ | because I see create table and I think designate create table when migration | 13:50 |
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kodoku_ | ahu If I'am disconnect, write the answer. I'll see irc logs ;) | 13:53 |
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kodoku_ | mugsie Is it possible to refresh powerdns database if I already have domain and records in designate database and I recreate pdns database | 13:58 |
kodoku_ | because after powerdns sync, I start pdns and If I restart "powerdns sync" ==> Trace: ValueError: Tables "cryptokeys,domainmetadata,domains,records,supermasters,tsigkeys" have non utf8 collation | 14:00 |
kodoku_ | and on powerdns logs ==> Unable to launch gmysql connection: Unable to connect to database: Unknown MySQL server host | 14:01 |
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vinod1 | kiall: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171621/ | 14:31 |
vinod1 | it looks like a zone create is not done correctly | 14:32 |
vinod1 | the pool manager creates the zone but the mdns does not get the correct serial number from the server even after several retries | 14:33 |
vinod1 | i wonder if the zone was not created correctly but no error was still indicated and the pool manager thinks the zone is created when in reality it might not have been created | 14:34 |
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mugsie | vinod1: it looks like some AFXRs can fail sometimes | 14:36 |
mugsie | and we dont have a high enough timeouts / fast enough refreshs in the tests | 14:36 |
vinod1 | the tests wait for 20 seconds and we do multiple retries in mdns over the course of the 20 seconds | 14:38 |
mugsie | vinod1: we dont it seems :( | 14:39 |
mugsie | only one notify is sent | 14:39 |
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kodoku_ | ping Kilo version of designate works with juno openstack version ? | 14:59 |
mugsie | kodoku_: it should do OK | 15:01 |
kodoku_ | ok :) | 15:04 |
kodoku_ | because I see commit fix my issue | 15:04 |
kodoku_ | so I'll try with kilo | 15:04 |
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eandersson | kodoku_: Upgrading to Kilo for the same reason. | 15:14 |
Kiall | vinod1: It's this - https://deepthought.isc.org/article/AA-01213/0/What-causes-refresh%3A-failure-trying-master-...%3A-operation-canceled-error-messages.html | 15:14 |
Kiall | a non-determinitic kernel bug.. cuz.. yea, that sounds like fun to fix -_- | 15:15 |
Kiall | We can work around it by lowering the periodic-sync interval in the gate | 15:15 |
Kiall | That way, a second notify will be sent within the period and hopefully the kernel doesn't splode twice | 15:15 |
Kiall | (the bind logs from here gave me the clue .. http://logs.openstack.org/21/171621/5/gate/gate-designate-dsvm-bind9/4bca735/logs/syslog.txt.gz ) | 15:16 |
eandersson | Kilo is looking great so far though | 15:17 |
eandersson | A lot of progress since Juno. | 15:18 |
openstackgerrit | Vinod Mangalpally proposed openstack/designate: Update error status on a NO_DOMAIN error https://review.openstack.org/172111 | 15:19 |
vinod1 | kiall: ^^^ How about this fix for the gate failures? | 15:19 |
Kiall | vinod1: Based only on the commit messagem, I think that will result in all nearly zones going to ERROR briefly with e.g. PowerDNS which takes a few seconds before it notices the new zone, and 100% of zones with backends like Akamai and Dyn | 15:20 |
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vinod1 | hmm. if a zone is not created for some reason, but pool manager thinks it is (i.e. the backend does not report any error), we would not recover from that error | 15:24 |
openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/designate: Open Liberty development https://review.openstack.org/172116 | 15:26 |
Kiall | vinod1: Humm, PowerDNS/Akamai/Dyn etc - I don't believe that can happen, does rncd addzone sometimes "suceed" but actually fail? | 15:26 |
Kiall | Okay - Thierry wants us to hold RC1 until we make the call on APIv2 stable or not.. So we'll need to make that call ASAP | 15:31 |
vinod1 | i haven't seen that failure but wondering of that scenario | 15:31 |
Kiall | I'll push a review to make the change, and we +/- it on gerrit.. | 15:31 |
Kiall | vinod1: we could have the periodic_sync attempt to correct zones where the serial comes back as None from 1 or more nameservers? | 15:32 |
Kiall | I guess the issue is that you might have 2 targets, and 6 nameservers which slave from both targets... If one target fails, all nameservers will get data. | 15:33 |
Kiall | you can't "see into" the target in many cases | 15:33 |
vinod1 | that is a possibility - we can come back to this in liberty | 15:36 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/designate: Restrict editing of managed records to policy based ACL https://review.openstack.org/171621 | 15:36 |
Kiall | vinod1: yea, agreed :) | 15:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Kiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate: Add stable/kilo placeholder migrations https://review.openstack.org/172124 | 15:41 |
Kiall | vinod1 / timsim / mugsie: ^ can be approved, it;'s dependant on the Open Liberty development review, so won't merge until we open for L | 15:41 |
openstackgerrit | Kiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate: DevStack: Reduce periodic intervals in the gate https://review.openstack.org/172131 | 15:55 |
Kiall | vinod1 / mugsie: In thory, ^ get's us past https://deepthought.isc.org/article/AA-01213/0/What-causes-refresh%3A-failure-trying-master-...%3A-operation-canceled-error-messages.html | 15:56 |
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Kiall | (It's also untested ;)) | 16:00 |
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untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 16:01 |
untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1442221 | 16:01 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1442221 in Designate "Pool manager does not update domain create errors correctly" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Vinod Mangalpally (vinod-mang) | 16:01 |
untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1442141 | 16:01 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1442141 in Designate "designate-api Throws Error on stop()" [Undecided,New] | 16:01 |
untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1437699 | 16:01 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1437699 in Designate "mDNS should Handle Bad File Descriptor" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Ron Rickard (rjrjr) | 16:01 |
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paul_glass | I'm trying out importing some large-ish zone files into designate... I imported a zone with 601 records and get a 504 connection timed out from the API, although it looks like all of the records get to the nameserver | 16:15 |
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Kiall | paul_glass: From what I remember, the zone import code doesn't work amazingly with bigger zone files - I can't remember the specific tho, let me check | 16:20 |
mugsie | yeah, ron had to bump up timeouts all over the place to get it to work | 16:20 |
Kiall | Actually, that code was reworked a few weeks or a month or something back.. | 16:20 |
Kiall | I thought that would have sorted it :/ | 16:20 |
mugsie | it still does the "read records, do central.create(), read next rcords afaik" | 16:21 |
Kiall | vinod1: "Kiall, how about adding some spare migrations into pool manager cache too?" .. lol yes, and pdns.. heh, nice catch ;) | 16:21 |
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Kiall | mugsie: I don't think it does anymore.. checking1 | 16:22 |
Kiall | pretty sure ekarlso sorted that during a refactor for Seconday zone support. | 16:22 |
Kiall | Yea, looks like he did.. | 16:23 |
Kiall | zone = self.central_api.create_domain(context, domain) <-- That's the only call in the import zone controller | 16:23 |
Kiall | paul_glass: so, we're doing daft things there too -_- We end up issuing lots of singular inserts, rather than a bulk instert. | 16:26 |
Kiall | The whole thing is wrapped in a single transaction, so we get all or nothing, but it's likely hitting a delay somewhere (or the DB is busy etc) and it's hitting the RPC timeout, which will trigger a 504 once hit. | 16:27 |
paul_glass | Kiall: is that rpc timeout controlled by `rpc_response_timeout` in designate.conf | 16:29 |
Kiall | Correct, it us | 16:29 |
Kiall | is* | 16:29 |
Kiall | Also - If you have something else in front of Designate - e.g. haproxy, it can trigger a 504 too with it's own set of timeouts.. | 16:29 |
Kiall | (Just in case your hitting that, rather than anything else) | 16:30 |
paul_glass | okay. yeah, I was seeing a MessagingTimeout exception in designate logs and set rpc_response_timeout = 600 and I that exception seems to have gone away. | 16:30 |
Kiall | Is this a all-in-one VM or similar? I'm wondering how ~600 inserts could take so long? | 16:30 |
paul_glass | it's not particularly powerful... the api/central/rabbit/mysql are all on the same server. | 16:31 |
Kiall | My dev env is down right now.. Will build it back up and do some experimentation | 16:32 |
paul_glass | oh, I do get back some html with the generic "connection timed out" message in the 504 response body. | 16:32 |
paul_glass | which looks like it's not from designate. | 16:32 |
Kiall | Ah, if it's not a Designate style JSON error, chances are it's something timing out before we do? | 16:33 |
paul_glass | but I'm just hitting the api directly, no weirdo proxies. except being on the internal rax network. | 16:33 |
Kiall | At HP Cloud, we set out RPC timeout 10 seconds less than our LB timeouts, ensuring it's always Designate that decides something took too long. | 16:33 |
Kiall | paul_glass: http proxy? | 16:33 |
Kiall | brb | 16:34 |
paul_glass | no proxy in this env. I'll try doing the import zone from the same box to see if that 504 goes away. | 16:35 |
Kiall | How are you doing the API call? curl? | 16:41 |
paul_glass | python requests | 16:41 |
Kiall | That likely has a timeout setting somewhere too, it could be generated the 504 "response" | 16:42 |
paul_glass | that thought crossed my mind. | 16:42 |
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Kiall | Seems their docs don't mention the default, but it seems it's not "wait forever" | 16:44 |
Kiall | so it's gotta be set to something .. | 16:44 |
Kiall | You can try adding requests.post(http://bla, timeout=None) or whatever to the call, and see if/when it times out.. can't seem to find the default value | 16:47 |
Kiall | paul_glass: also .. you tempest tests have .. umm.. identified a kernel bug that affects us. LOL | 16:47 |
paul_glass | this is good and bad. | 16:47 |
paul_glass | lol | 16:47 |
Kiall | Yea, just .. Heh | 16:47 |
Kiall | https://deepthought.isc.org/article/AA-01213/0/What-causes-refresh%3A-failure-trying-master-...%3A-operation-canceled-error-messages.html has the details ;) | 16:48 |
Kiall | Not sure if it's only BIND it hurts, but they claim it's an as yet unknown issue somewhere in the netfilter kernel moduke | 16:48 |
Kiall | module* | 16:48 |
openstackgerrit | Kiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate: DevStack: Reduce periodic intervals in the gate https://review.openstack.org/172131 | 16:51 |
openstackgerrit | Kiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate: DevStack: Reduce periodic intervals in the gate https://review.openstack.org/172131 | 16:51 |
Kiall | if pep8 gate fails me for the line length in that URL, I'm gonna shoot it. That's a URL, I can't split it and keep it clickable ;) | 16:52 |
paul_glass | does running tox -e pep8 locally check the commit message? | 16:53 |
Kiall | After you commit yea, but I was lazy and edited it online via Gerrit ;) | 16:54 |
paul_glass | that 504 seems to go away when running the zone import request from the same box as the api. | 16:57 |
paul_glass | it takes 87 seconds for the 202 response to get back though. | 16:57 |
paul_glass | not as much of a problem on a more powerful environment. | 17:00 |
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Kiall | paul_glass: so what is the env? a VM on RAX or? | 18:12 |
Kiall | Still seems way too slow, but I've been in meetings so haven't got my dev env back up | 18:13 |
paul_glass | it's a 2 GB rackspace cloud server and a few other smaller servers. api/central/rabbit/mysql are on one node. mdns, pool manager, nameservers are each on their own nodes. | 18:15 |
paul_glass | it's severely underpowered compared to what we'll have in production. | 18:16 |
Kiall | mugsie / timsim / vinod1 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172131/ hit the "operation cancelled" bind issue again, and passed with the changes.. Should be good :) | 18:31 |
Kiall | paul_glass: Cool, I'll test it out tomorrow as well.. It still feels too long, even if underpowered! | 18:31 |
timsim | Kernel bug....wat | 18:32 |
paul_glass | it's slower than I was hoping for... but if designate isn't batching the record(set) creates for all the records in the zone file, that's 600 or so sql inserts | 18:33 |
paul_glass | on pretty weak mysql instance. | 18:33 |
Kiall | timsim: yea, I know. | 18:34 |
vinod1 | kiall: do you want https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172131/ to be kilo rc1? | 18:34 |
Kiall | vinod1: yea, the tempst tests gates fail randomly due to the kernel bug.. So it should land in the stable branch (which will cut from master) | 18:35 |
Kiall | (Actually, I'm not sure I explained that very well in the commit message.. heh) | 18:35 |
vinod1 | +A'ed | 18:37 |
Kiall | cool | 18:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Kiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate: Add stable/kilo placeholder migrations https://review.openstack.org/172124 | 18:53 |
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Kiall | vinod1: you still had some concerns re calling APIv2 stable, I plan to put that first on the HP DNS team meetup next week.. So we'll spend a few hours Monday reviewing, it'd be excellent to close that out and cut rc1 monday if you can review before they too :) | 18:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/designate: DevStack: Reduce periodic intervals in the gate https://review.openstack.org/172131 | 19:11 |
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