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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/designate: port to oslo.service https://review.openstack.org/193819 | 04:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kumar Singh proposed openstack/designate: Use 'range' instead of 'xrange' for py3 compatibility. https://review.openstack.org/195890 | 06:27 |
openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kumar Singh proposed openstack/designate: Use 'range' instead of 'xrange' for py3 compatibility https://review.openstack.org/195890 | 07:00 |
openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kumar Singh proposed openstack/designate: Set is_admin during context initialization https://review.openstack.org/195900 | 07:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kumar Singh proposed openstack/designate: Remove all_tenants policy from get_quotas https://review.openstack.org/195368 | 08:02 |
openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kumar Singh proposed openstack/designate: check is_admin before setting all_tenants in get_quotas https://review.openstack.org/195368 | 08:06 |
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eandersson | Morning | 09:37 |
eandersson | Still fighting that RPC timeout issue. | 09:37 |
eandersson | Is there a way to increase the RPC timeout? | 09:38 |
eandersson | for Juno | 09:38 |
eandersson | Kiall: Maybe you have an idea? :D | 09:48 |
eandersson | Reducing the logging only did so much unfortunately. | 09:48 |
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eandersson | nvm found the setting =] | 11:29 |
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nagyz | after creating a record which component's job is to actually update the powerdns db underneath? | 14:51 |
nagyz | the pool manager? | 14:52 |
nagyz | is that part of central or does it run separately? | 14:52 |
nagyz | because I don't have an init script for designate-pool-manager | 14:52 |
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timsim | If you're running kilo, Central tells the pool manager to update the domain (with your new record), the pool manager figures out that it needs to send a NOTIFY to PowerDNS, which it does via designate-mdns, PowerDNS zone transfers from MiniDNS, and updates it's own database. (I think) | 14:59 |
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nagyz | oh. my. god. | 15:06 |
nagyz | it was simple and working in icehouse and after our upgrade to kilo I don't even recognize this beast | 15:07 |
nagyz | 800 modules with 4000 undocumented settings :/ | 15:07 |
nagyz | so I MUST run designate-mdns and pool-manager besides api and central and sink? | 15:07 |
timsim | Yes. | 15:08 |
nagyz | so 5 components total | 15:08 |
timsim | If you're just running something simple, there's no reason they cant all run on the same node. | 15:10 |
nagyz | sure they can but in icehouse it was perfectly reasonable | 15:11 |
nagyz | now it's a VERY underdocumented beast | 15:11 |
nagyz | that's my main issue :) | 15:11 |
timsim | What, specifically do you feel is underdocumented? | 15:11 |
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nagyz | upgrades guide. did I miss that there is an upgrade guide from icehouse to juno and to juno to icehouse? | 15:15 |
nagyz | and it's also hard to get a powerdns pool sample, esp how to set up the "options=" parameter | 15:16 |
nagyz | I did that based on devstack's scripts | 15:16 |
timsim | Fair enough. No there isn't an upgrades guide, and the powerdns pool isn't specifically documented. The main reason for that is we're trying to move all of that configuration into the database, which we had hoped to have done by kilo, but it didn't happen. | 15:20 |
nagyz | right but then the documentation needs to be updated :) | 15:22 |
nagyz | also ubuntu doesn't have an init script either for mdns nor for pool manager | 15:22 |
nagyz | so actually designate-mdns is a full featured DNS server? | 15:22 |
nagyz | why wouldn't I run just that then? | 15:22 |
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timsim | It's in there if you use Bind9 :P not good enough though. MiniDNS is a dns server, but it implements a very small subset of DNS operations. The main goal is interoperability with other DNS servers, so that Designate can work across more DNS backends. It's written in pure python, and definitely isn't meant to be your primary dns server. | 15:28 |
nagyz | so there's no way (like there was in icehouse) to just skip mdns and just let powerdns update itself without an AXFR? | 15:29 |
nagyz | seems like overkill to be honest | 15:29 |
nagyz | and overengineering | 15:29 |
timsim | Depends on your use case...that model would have never worked for operating DNSaaS for a public cloud. | 15:30 |
timsim | Pretending for a moment that it doesn't run HP Cloud DNS of course :P | 15:31 |
richm | So is it not possible to run without mdns anymore? | 15:34 |
timsim | Nope. | 15:34 |
richm | I'm finally getting back to the ipa backend | 15:34 |
nagyz | timsim, my whole reason to get away from the icehouse version was because I had to start everything in screen as I was running stable/icehouse from git | 15:34 |
nagyz | but now I feel like I should restore from backup to the icehouse schema and just use that without touching it anymore... | 15:35 |
nagyz | there everything worked. here even creating a new domain fails (there is an open, high important bug for that) | 15:35 |
timsim | Well that's just not true. | 15:36 |
nagyz | which part? | 15:38 |
timsim | Creating a new domain works just fine. | 15:38 |
nagyz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/1463488 | 15:38 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1463488 in python-designateclient "Exception when over-quota on domains is very confusing" [High,Triaged] | 15:38 |
nagyz | yet I'm not even aware that there are any quotes nor I have the quota extension enabled | 15:39 |
nagyz | *quotas | 15:39 |
timsim | That's a confusing error message if you're over your zone quota...if you're not over your quota, you can still create domains. | 15:39 |
nagyz | right but given that the quota extension is commented out in the config file, should it enforce quota? | 15:39 |
nagyz | second I'm adding a record as an admin | 15:40 |
nagyz | so what does the "quotas" extension do if even without that there are quotas enforced? | 15:41 |
timsim | It allows an API to manage quotas. | 15:41 |
timsim | s/allows/enables | 15:42 |
timsim | Juno might be more to your liking, perhaps you should try that. | 15:42 |
nagyz | I did a grep for quota in my designate.conf and can't find anything. Could you point me to a documentation explaining how I can set my quota to be higher? | 15:42 |
nagyz | kilo is out. it shouldn't have bugs like this... | 15:43 |
nagyz | will my icehouse designate work with notifications from nova running at the kilo version? if so I'll just revert to that | 15:43 |
timsim | v1: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/rest/v1/quotas.html admin api: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/rest/admin/quotas.html | 15:44 |
timsim | If nova is emitting the same notifications, which they should be, I don't see why not. | 15:44 |
nagyz | I saw those documents and they describe the API, not how I could set up my default quotas or changes them without the extension | 15:45 |
nagyz | you surely don't mean there are hardcoded quota values that I cannot change without making direct API calls? | 15:45 |
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pglass | nagyz: you can set quotas on a per-tenant basis. | 15:50 |
pglass | you can change the default quotas using the following config options https://github.com/openstack/designate/blob/master/designate/quota/__init__.py#L27 | 15:51 |
pglass | those go in the "general" section in the config, I think | 15:51 |
timsim | With underscores instead of hyphens. | 15:56 |
nagyz | do I need to configure anything on mdns to do this? | 16:01 |
nagyz | I just left that section as is | 16:01 |
timsim | Unless you don't want it to bind to all interfaces, should be fine. | 16:01 |
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nagyz | ok, so now I have -central, -sink, -pool-manager and -mdns running | 16:07 |
nagyz | let's see :-) | 16:07 |
nagyz | Got lower serial for 'zc2.ibm.com.' to '9.4.128.251:53'. Expected:'1435330205'. Got:'1434109036'.Retries left='2' | 16:07 |
nagyz | so the problem has been that the powerdns backend was out of sync | 16:08 |
nagyz | as mdns was not running previously | 16:08 |
nagyz | now it tries to add the new record but hits an error as it doesn't sync up | 16:08 |
nagyz | is there a way I could force it to update the powerdns db? | 16:08 |
timsim | If you update the zone/record (new ttl or something) it should transfer. | 16:09 |
nagyz | I've added a new record | 16:09 |
nagyz | I guess I need to update AXFR transfers on powerdns :) | 16:10 |
nagyz | ah well it's already enabled. | 16:10 |
timsim | The mdns log should show if there was some problem with the AXFR | 16:12 |
nagyz | I'm getting back a NOTIMP from pdns for NOTIFY... | 16:12 |
nagyz | ok I'll debug this further later on. | 16:13 |
nagyz | thank you very much for your help | 16:13 |
nagyz | I'll be back later :-) | 16:13 |
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mugsie | Kiall: timsim http://graham.hayes.ie/designate-stable-status/ | 17:46 |
mugsie | commits and bugs in master but not in stable/kilo | 17:46 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/designate: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/196261 | 21:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Endre Karlson proposed openstack/designate: Add Zone Manager service shim https://review.openstack.org/193651 | 23:32 |
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