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| openstackgerrit | KATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/designate: Use git.openstack.org as Git repository https://review.openstack.org/254013 | 05:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | sonu proposed openstack/designate-specs: Pass environment variables of proxy to tox https://review.openstack.org/254017 | 05:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | sonu proposed openstack/designate: Removes MANIFEST.in as it is not needed explicitely by PBR https://review.openstack.org/254057 | 08:05 |
| openstackgerrit | sonu proposed openstack/python-designateclient: Removes MANIFEST.in as it is not needed explicitely by PBR https://review.openstack.org/254059 | 08:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | sonu proposed openstack/designate-dashboard: Drop MANIFEST.in as it is not needed explicitely by PBR https://review.openstack.org/254067 | 08:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | sonu proposed openstack/designate-specs: Removes MANIFEST.in as it is not needed explicitely by PBR https://review.openstack.org/254068 | 08:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Endre Karlson proposed openstack/python-designateclient: Indicate py34 support https://review.openstack.org/254080 | 08:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Endre Karlson proposed openstack/designate: Move config to avoid import issues with eventlet https://review.openstack.org/236987 | 09:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Endre Karlson proposed openstack/designate: Support running Designate API in Apache 2 https://review.openstack.org/236236 | 09:25 |
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| en_austin | hi all, anybody here? :) | 10:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Federico Ceratto proposed openstack/designate: Add delayed NOTIFY https://review.openstack.org/247588 | 10:44 |
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| ekarlso | en_austin: ya | 11:01 |
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| en_austin | ekarlso: hi :) | 11:22 |
| en_austin | I need an advice... | 11:22 |
| en_austin | Twice for last week I've encountered a strange issue with Designate. It just hanging with backend communication (or whatever, I don't know) until restart. | 11:23 |
| en_austin | e.g API receives a queries, but they are not actually provisioned. Zones is pending in PENDING status (not even ERROR). | 11:23 |
| en_austin | After restart of all Designate services it continues running as usual without any problems. | 11:24 |
| en_austin | What it can be? | 11:24 |
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| Kiall | en_austin: interesting, any idea which service restart kicked it? | 12:33 |
| Kiall | One thing I've seen, is oslo.messaging - the openstack RPC lib - doesn't really like network blips when combined with RabbitMQ ... Things can end up listening to dead air until they are restarted, with no way for the service to know it's busted. | 12:34 |
| Kiall | We saw this issue all the time, when we had some netutron issues and had designate running in-cloud. | 12:34 |
| Kiall | (Theres a multiple year old bug on this one ;)) | 12:35 |
| Kiall | (bug against oslo.m, not us ;)) | 12:35 |
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| Kiall | and - logs etc would be useful otherwise | 12:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Federico Ceratto proposed openstack/designate: Emit notification on update_status() on a zone https://review.openstack.org/254176 | 13:10 |
| en_austin | I'll try to fetch logs belongs to this. | 13:19 |
| en_austin | Kiall: for example - here is a stuck domain deletion query http://paste.openstack.org/show/B1TAJVf06w9L7Doju8E8/ | 13:21 |
| en_austin | Awh. Why paste.openstack has cut my logs... | 13:22 |
| Kiall | lol | 13:22 |
| Kiall | I was just thinking there's not much of relavance ;) | 13:22 |
| en_austin | it pasted only 186 lines | 13:23 |
| en_austin | while I've expected 249 :) | 13:23 |
| en_austin | well, part two http://paste.openstack.org/show/ZUoR01J6R9bYy3oCARti/ | 13:23 |
| en_austin | and about oslo.m - RabbitMQ and Designate services are on the same box, talking by 127.0.0.1 interface... so probably it's not a problem here | 13:25 |
| Kiall | can you check the 2x nameserver logs at around 2015-12-07 08:20:03.065 | 13:28 |
| en_austin | yep, will do it now | 13:28 |
| Kiall | Looking to see if they logged a NOTIFY received for for int.zone | 13:28 |
| en_austin | 07-Dec-2015 08:20:04.384 zone aqa.int.zone/IN: notify from 10.28.0.16#34271: refresh in progress, refresh check queued | 13:29 |
| en_austin | only that | 13:29 |
| en_austin | (and same lines with different timestamps) | 13:29 |
| Kiall | Okay, that seems about right - after that line, do you see when the next AXFR complete log entry for that zone is? | 13:30 |
| Kiall | Actually, That log is for aqa.int.zone vs int.zone | 13:30 |
| en_austin | i've just cut aqa.* from logs i've posted above | 13:31 |
| en_austin | it's ok here | 13:31 |
| Kiall | Ah :) | 13:31 |
| en_austin | 07-Dec-2015 09:59:50.081 zone aqa.int.zone/IN: transferred serial 1449471575 | 13:31 |
| en_austin | after couple hundreds of "refresh in progress..." | 13:31 |
| en_austin | (that's when I've manually restarted a Designate) | 13:31 |
| Kiall | Humm, K.. Can you grep the mdns logs, loking for any stacktraces (they should match a grep for TRACE) before 2015-12-07 08:20:03.065 | 13:32 |
| Kiall | I'm wondering if we have an unhandled exception somewhere, which is shutting down the listener thread | 13:33 |
| en_austin | no any traces - already done that :( | 13:33 |
| en_austin | the only exception was only when i've restarted D | 13:33 |
| en_austin | central.log.6:Exception TypeError: "'NoneType' object is not callable" in <bound method _SocketDuckForFd.__del__ of _SocketDuckForFd:5> ignored | 13:33 |
| en_austin | (and same in zone-manager.log) | 13:34 |
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| Kiall | Oo, you can paste some of the context around that log entry? | 13:36 |
| en_austin | Sure | 13:37 |
| en_austin | http://paste.openstack.org/show/481016/ | 13:38 |
| Kiall | From ^ it looks like you're running the servers with workers = 4 - are you doing that for all of them? | 13:41 |
| en_austin | what "that"? | 13:41 |
| Kiall | that log :) | 13:41 |
| en_austin | "for all of them" - all workers? yea | 13:42 |
| en_austin | that's a single log for all of them :) | 13:42 |
| en_austin | well, will afk for half an hour | 13:42 |
| Kiall | K, I wonder if wokers > 1 is related, it's certainly the less tested deployment pattern.. How often does this happen? It seems like we're failing to log something of importance for this issue, it may need some debugging while it's in a failed state to learn more :( | 13:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Federico Ceratto proposed openstack/designate: Emit notification on update_status() on a zone https://review.openstack.org/254176 | 13:45 |
| Kiall | brb | 13:48 |
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| Kiall | back | 13:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Larson proposed openstack/designate: Update database and add ALIAS record support https://review.openstack.org/247193 | 14:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Larson proposed openstack/designate: Add ALIAS record flattening zone manager task https://review.openstack.org/247192 | 14:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Larson proposed openstack/designate: Comment out ALIAS records in zone export https://review.openstack.org/247195 | 14:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Larson proposed openstack/designate: Add ALIAS support in central and zone manager https://review.openstack.org/247194 | 14:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Larson proposed openstack/designate: Add ALIAS records to designate objects https://review.openstack.org/247191 | 14:55 |
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| en_austin | Kiall: so... | 15:06 |
| en_austin | you think that reducing of workers can solve this problem? | 15:07 |
| en_austin | "How often" - twice from end of November till now | 15:07 |
| en_austin | when it'll fail next time - I'll create a snapshot of VM and contact you:) | 15:08 |
| en_austin | the main problem is - the production fails, not dev instance - so I must restart it asap | 15:08 |
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| rsyed | here's a low priority, general question: what's the value in recordsets (as opposed to working directly with records on a zone?) any quick canonical example that would demonstrate their value? | 15:55 |
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| mugsie | rsyed: in the RFCs records belong to a recordset. we tried to keep to the RFCs as much as possible | 16:09 |
| timsim | (The underlying question is "why you no recordsets/<id>/records) | 16:09 |
| mugsie | timsim: I blame you | 16:10 |
| timsim | I AGREED WITH YOU!!!! | 16:10 |
| rsyed | mugsie: he was taking the blame in person too | 16:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Federico Ceratto proposed openstack/designate: Emit notification on update_status() on a zone https://review.openstack.org/254176 | 16:10 |
| timsim | I mean I still should have fought it harder. But you know, intern taking 18 hours of classes had bigger problems :P | 16:11 |
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| timsim | mugsie: We could still do that now though right? It'd just be an /v2.1 or something? | 16:13 |
| timsim | Our UI folks are probably going to flip out when they see that. | 16:13 |
| mugsie | timsim: yeaj | 16:13 |
| mugsie | or just add 2 ways | 16:14 |
| rsyed | mugsie: yeah, the addition of the second way shouldn't mandate a version bump should it? | 16:14 |
| mugsie | have a /recordsewts/<id>/records | 16:14 |
| mugsie | and keep the other way | 16:14 |
| timsim | Ah yeah. That's what I meant. | 16:15 |
| mugsie | rsyed: nope, as long as the old interaction works we are ++ | 16:15 |
| timsim | Well let's do that. | 16:15 |
| mugsie | timsim: spec please :) | 16:15 |
| * mugsie ducks | 16:15 | |
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| mugsie | http://replygif.net/i/1507.gif | 16:16 |
| timsim | add it to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182016/6/specs/liberty/api-v2-structured-data-format.rst | 16:19 |
| timsim | :P | 16:19 |
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| mlavalle | mugsie, timsim, Kiall: that new way to configure Designate in Devstack rocks! Just drop one line in local.conf and you are up an running! :-) | 16:47 |
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| mugsie | mlavalle: yeah, well done to ekarlso | 16:52 |
| rsyed | mlavalle is this what you're referring to? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/devstack.html | 16:52 |
| mugsie | rsyed: nope - we need to update the docs | 16:52 |
| mugsie | there is a new devstack plugin | 16:52 |
| rsyed | https://github.com/openstack/designate/tree/master/devstack ? | 16:53 |
| mugsie | yeah | 16:53 |
| mlavalle | rsyed: this last one is what I was referring to | 16:53 |
| rsyed | thanks! might give it a shot myself, looks simple | 16:53 |
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| rsyed | zone_primary_or_admin should be satisfied when using the noauth context (as all users are admins) right? i can't seem to create a recordset (PTR specifically) because the policy check fails for "create_recordset" in central | 20:54 |
| elarson | rsyed: noauth should allow you to create a PTR recordset | 20:57 |
| rsyed | http://paste.openstack.org/show/JBETvcmjwNb6bkKFCscn/ | 20:59 |
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| rsyed | timsim helped me figure it out, it was the big rename...a templated version of our policy.json still had domain references instead of zone. | 21:13 |
| mugsie | oh | 21:15 |
| mugsie | crap | 21:15 |
| mugsie | thats not going to be good | 21:15 |
| timsim | It's fixed in master, but yeah, folks' policy.jsons are going to have to change. | 21:15 |
| mugsie | gah | 21:16 |
| timsim | Man whose idea was this big rename.... | 21:16 |
| timsim | :troll: | 21:16 |
| elarson | :troll2: | 21:16 |
| rsyed | yeah master was fine...it was just our deployment had a template we have to get updated. why is that a concern? tell everyone to just deal with it! | 21:16 |
| timsim | People will be very offended. | 21:17 |
| mugsie | rsyed: if only it was that easy | 21:18 |
| mugsie | http://replygif.net/i/1509.gif <- openstack users when you break shit from under them | 21:19 |
| * mugsie must remember to tell zigo about this | 21:19 | |
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| rsyed | this is a unique case, but i think it's unfortunate that the policy executor wasn't providing too much feedback. think there's value in providing additional debug detail there? i'm not sure how often debugging policies would need to happen? | 21:21 |
| elarson | we could probably havea deprecation warning and support the old names for the M release? | 21:21 |
| timsim | rsyed: you might find something helpful if you went spelunking in configs for oslo policy | 21:22 |
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| rsyed | timsim: ah thanks for the tip | 21:23 |
| mugsie | i think elarson is probably right - just have to figure out how to do it | 21:23 |
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| timsim | Can we start an etherpad for mid-cycle topics, I've got like 5 from today alone. http://i.imgur.com/t0XHtgJ.gif | 21:49 |
| mugsie | http://replygif.net/i/1524.gif | 21:53 |
| timsim | Hope you don't run into an unhandled exception anywhere in handling any of the ERROR'd zones in Designate: https://github.com/openstack/designate/blob/master/designate/pool_manager/service.py#L171-L202 otherwise you won't recover. | 21:59 |
| mugsie | git blame | 22:02 |
| mugsie | and who do we have | 22:02 |
| mugsie | oh. me and Kiall | 22:02 |
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| timsim | womp womp | 22:02 |
| pglass | but I think kiall was just indenting that for a different change | 22:03 |
| mugsie | http://replygif.net/i/923.gif | 22:03 |
| timsim | yeah, looks like it | 22:03 |
| mugsie | pglass: dont give him an out | 22:03 |
| mugsie | :D | 22:03 |
| timsim | Sorry Kiall https://github.com/openstack/designate/commit/3386d9539ca02e4a9142cb4cf03b990f64387ded#diff-d4dc7341c5de88be06bd4ca2cf8c76c5R186 | 22:04 |
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| timsim | I'm going to go ahead a file a bug for that. Although I'm not sure what the proper fix is. | 22:09 |
| timsim | Well, besides https://media.giphy.com/media/as9jjco4BcAkE/giphy.gif | 22:09 |
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| timsim | mugsie: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate_2016_winter_midcycle_meetup | 22:34 |
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