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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/designate: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/318020 | 08:10 |
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| mugsie | Kiall: http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=(type%3D%27smoke%27)&i=nope&files=&repos= - 477 results | 12:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/designate-tempest-plugin: Add functional testing for the v2 API quotas endpoint https://review.openstack.org/337321 | 13:37 |
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| dmsimard | Hi, I just want to confirm something .. in the context of designate, is the policy.json and api-paste.ini files only used by designate-api ? Or is it also used by something else ? | 13:46 |
| dmsimard | It's to make sure they are packaged appropriately in RDO. | 13:48 |
| mugsie | dmsimard: policy.json is used by all the components | 13:48 |
| mugsie | api-paste is just the API | 13:48 |
| dmsimard | mugsie: so, including, say, the agent - central and all ? | 13:48 |
| mugsie | yeap | 13:49 |
| dmsimard | mugsie: ok, thanks. | 13:49 |
| Kiall | mtreinish: Q - tempest.test isn't on the list of OK to use in a plugin packages, is that an oversight? Eyeballing around, ~30 of the 36 tempest plugins I found use it, likely because it provides some pretty core functionality.. (Common test structure, credential handling, etc) | 13:49 |
| Kiall | ironic, keystone, neutron-fwaas, neutron, sahara, sahara-tests, trove, ceilometer, designate, aodh, congress, ec2-api, freezer-api, freezer, gce-api, gnocchi, intel-nfv-ci-tests, ironic-inspector, kingbird, manila, mistral, monasca-api, monasca-log-api, networking-bgpvpn, networking-fortinet, networking-plumgrid, senlin, tap-as-a-service, tricircle, vmware-nsx, watcher, zaqar all use it | 13:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate-tempest-plugin: Use tempest.lib data_utils https://review.openstack.org/339014 | 14:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Glass proposed openstack/designate-tempest-plugin: Reduce the number of "smoke" tests https://review.openstack.org/338549 | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | pglass: thx ^ | 14:39 |
| mugsie | EmilienM: I meant to ask, if we removed smoke tests entirely, how would you have tested our stuff? would you just choose specific tests? | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | mugsie: yes, I would have selected what we want to test | 14:41 |
| EmilienM | but this patch is awesome, so we don't have to choose | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate-tempest-plugin: Reuse zone during recordset tests https://review.openstack.org/339056 | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Kiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/designate-tempest-plugin: Reduce client setup duplication https://review.openstack.org/339068 | 15:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/designate-tempest-plugin: Use tempest.lib data_utils https://review.openstack.org/339014 | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/designate-tempest-plugin: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/336354 | 15:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/designate-tempest-plugin: Reduce the number of "smoke" tests https://review.openstack.org/338549 | 16:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/designate-tempest-plugin: Add functional testing for the v2 API quotas endpoint https://review.openstack.org/337321 | 16:40 |
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| rsyed | TIL dubliners refer to parts of their city by number: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dublin_postal_districts#Structure | 18:21 |
| federico3 | yup | 18:28 |
| Kiall | rsyed: we only got post codes (aka zip codes) about a year ago ;) | 18:43 |
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| rsyed | kiall: what'd you say before then? i'm used to cardinal direction for cities, numbered cities sounded interesting/unique to me | 19:01 |
| Kiall | Well, Dublin had 20 districts - but the rest of the country didn't... | 19:02 |
| Kiall | Now, we have actual post codes.. | 19:02 |
| Kiall | (and still have numbered districts in Dublin) | 19:03 |
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| mtreinish | Kiall: that's not an oversight, it's not a stable interface. It needs a lot of work before it really is ready for external consumption | 19:49 |
| mtreinish | Kiall: but everyone uses it anyway | 19:49 |
| mtreinish | Kiall: we've slowly been making progress on it, but the problem is it depends on a lot of other internal interfaces that need to be cleaned up first | 19:50 |
| Kiall | mtreinish: kinda makes sense, bit given everyone is using it.. are breaking changes likely? (Or possible, given projects like keystone etc are using it) | 19:54 |
| mtreinish | Kiall: heh, you don't want me to start ranting about the keystone plugin :) | 19:55 |
| mtreinish | Kiall: we'll try to maintain backwards compat there because it's common usage (like we're doing with the client manager now) | 19:55 |
| mtreinish | but it might be unavoidable | 19:55 |
| Kiall | Yea, unavoidable == unavoidable.. :) | 19:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Glass proposed openstack/designate-tempest-plugin: Add several negative RecordSet tests https://review.openstack.org/318789 | 19:56 |
| mtreinish | for the time being it's fine, but when we get closer to being able to make it a stable interface we'll know more | 19:56 |
| Kiall | mtreinish: cool, also.. idea: can tempest provide a hacking check for "don't use this" (bearing in mind current usage). I wrote a strict one today, but it triggered so many fails it couldn't merge "strict". It would likely help avoid more usage of internal APIs etc .. | 19:59 |
| Kiall | (something like 700 fails across the 30 or so tempest plugins) | 19:59 |
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| mtreinish | Kiall: well hacking itself is not the place for a rule like that, and the only other way would be per repo. I can help you write one for designate, but we can't force it on all the projects | 20:03 |
| mtreinish | heh, despite how much I'd like to :) | 20:03 |
| Kiall | I have one written, which I'll include in Designate.. but.. tempest providing the method, and plugins issuing the register, means tempest can add new APIs without every project having to dup it. | 20:05 |
| Kiall | Same would work for "don't import *client" and "don't override setUp" etc... | 20:05 |
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| Kiall | (I.e. opt in, code in tempest/lib/hacking, projects choose to register the check) | 20:06 |
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| mtreinish | yeah I guess that would work too | 20:07 |
| Kiall | Point is, I'm never going to maintain an up to date list, neither is any other project bar tempest, so let's delegate it there and allow it to be consumed. | 20:07 |
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| Kiall | I'll throw a review up tomorrow for comment, as I have code anyway... | 20:08 |
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