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| darrenc | Hi AJaeger | 06:33 |
| AJaeger | hi darrenc ! | 06:33 |
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| darrenc | AJaeger: I've got a question about building the cloud admin guide | 06:34 |
| AJaeger | darrenc: the RST or the DocBook one? | 06:35 |
| darrenc | rst | 06:35 |
| darrenc | I converted some common files to RST, and tox tells me that a common file I've added isn't included in any toctree | 06:36 |
| AJaeger | darrenc: the patch above that you just send in? | 06:36 |
| darrenc | It seems like all common files need to added to the toctree for each RST guide? | 06:36 |
| AJaeger | darrenc: added or blacklisted | 06:37 |
| darrenc | yeah, but I added the :orphan: directive to override this | 06:37 |
| AJaeger | Why do you add it to doc/common-rst/keystone_user_management.rst ? | 06:37 |
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| AJaeger | That file will only show up in the Admin Guide, won't it? | 06:37 |
| AJaeger | So, add it only there... | 06:37 |
| AJaeger | Not all files that are today in common should be there. | 06:38 |
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| darrenc | ok, thanks. I also used the include:: directive, but it displays the orphan directive in the generated html | 06:43 |
| AJaeger | checkbuild worked, so seems you did it correctly | 06:44 |
| darrenc | let me fix my whitespace issues, and you can see what I mean in my patch | 06:45 |
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| darrenc | ignore that last comment | 06:46 |
| AJaeger | ok | 06:46 |
| darrenc | see here: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/66/189566/1/check/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/a6aa63a//publish-docs/draft/admin-guide-cloud-rst/identity_management.html#identity-concepts | 06:46 |
| darrenc | under the Identity Concepts heading | 06:47 |
| AJaeger | change the file structure. | 06:47 |
| AJaeger | Don't use include but include the content directly. | 06:47 |
| AJaeger | Cloud Admin Guide is the only user of these files, so time to cleanup | 06:47 |
| darrenc | oh, I see | 06:48 |
| darrenc | that makes things easier | 06:48 |
| darrenc | thanks! | 06:48 |
| AJaeger | you're welcome | 06:48 |
| AJaeger | Seems the include does not work with :orphan: ;( | 06:48 |
| darrenc | unfortunately it doesn't :( | 06:49 |
| AJaeger | darrenc: besides orphan, you can also add to exclude_patterns in ...source/conf.py if needed. In this case, let's do it differently ;) | 06:51 |
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| darrenc | AJaeger: good to know. thanks! | 06:55 |
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| openstack | bug 1463343 in openstack-manuals "typo - Create and manage roles in Admin User Guide" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1463343 | 12:05 |
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| KLevenstein | install guide team meeting beginning shortly: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/a2FyaW4ua2F0aG9kZUBnbWFpbC5jb20.jj2lu2nbj71a0dan11vatdav3k | 13:00 |
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| annegentle | dhellmann: your use of the thesaurus is cracking me up today | 17:10 |
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| dhellmann | annegentle: we have a list in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/release-tools/tree/release_notes.py#n29 if you would care to add any :-) | 17:33 |
| dhellmann | annegentle: and I am chuffed to be able to spread a small amount of joy ;-) | 17:34 |
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| sigmavirus24 | dhellmann: that list always tickles me pink | 18:26 |
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| AJaeger | annegentle: good morning! | 19:10 |
| * AJaeger just commented on the common-rst thread (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-June/006893.html) and wanted to ask whether this clarifies the situation | 19:10 | |
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| AJaeger | and whether we should document this anywhere... | 19:10 |
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| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: sorry, internet flail this afternoon. Basically we stopped short of removing 3rd party driver docs, but I can't remember if it was because AJaeger decided not to do it or because we got enough push back we didn't kick them out? | 19:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: hmmmm we should figure out what happened | 19:42 |
| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: yeah my memory doesn't recall right now | 19:42 |
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| AJaeger | Sam-I-Am, annegentle: What's the background? | 19:50 |
| AJaeger | annegentle: it was push back and figuring out a way to move responsibility from doc team to 3rd party vendors | 19:51 |
| annegentle | AJaeger: ok, that's helpful | 19:51 |
| annegentle | The context was Sam-I-Am saying "i'm tasked with determining what needs purging or migration from the cloud admin guide to the network guide" | 19:51 |
| annegentle | AJaeger: and you never did completely remove, right? | 19:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: there's a lot of 3rd party network stuff in the admin guide that may or may not be accurate | 19:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont think its our job to document vendor stuff | 19:52 |
| AJaeger | annegentle: so far we didn't remove any docs | 19:52 |
| AJaeger | Sam-I-Am: The spec can be enhanced for this as well ;) | 19:52 |
| annegentle | AJaeger: Sam-I-Am: then maybe Sam-I-Am paves the way :) | 19:52 |
| AJaeger | Sam-I-Am: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/kilo/move-driver-docs.html | 19:53 |
| AJaeger | Sam-I-Am: do you have one example? Just like to see details | 19:53 |
| AJaeger | Check also https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/VendorDrivers | 19:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | of 3rd party stuff? | 19:53 |
| AJaeger | Sam-I-Am: of potential broken/outdated 3rd party stuff that you consider removing | 19:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/nsx_plugin.html | 19:55 |
| AJaeger | So, the spec was only about Configuration Reference but the rest is universal, we can easyily extend | 19:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | who knows if thats accurate | 19:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | the third party stuff has docs here and there, but none of it seems sufficient | 19:55 |
| AJaeger | I guess http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_plugin-config.html and subsections belongs to Config reference - and then the spec applies ;) | 19:56 |
| AJaeger | Sam-I-Am: you can follow the spec - ask for owner, if no owner signs up, remove it, if one signs up, ask to update and if no update happesn, remove. | 19:57 |
| AJaeger | Sam-I-Am: I agree that we should not document these... | 19:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure. theres not a lot of content, which tells me a lot of it has probably been abandoned, or never fully built out | 19:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ultimate goal is only documenting the stuff thats core to neutron | 19:59 |
| AJaeger | with projects moving back to neutron, like networking-ofagent or networking-vsphere, what is core for you? | 20:01 |
| AJaeger | Sam-I-Am: Yes, we should only document the core - the question is will the networking guide have a section "3rd party drivers" where each section is owned by a third-party vendor? | 20:02 |
| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: you'll have to define core in a spec | 20:02 |
| annegentle | (I think) | 20:02 |
| annegentle | ML2 + OVS, ML2 + Linux Bridge? | 20:02 |
| AJaeger | Yeah, let's write it up - either as enhancement / update to "my spec" or a new one. | 20:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: yeah, those things | 20:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | plus other services like vpnaas, lbaas, etc. | 20:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in other words, if a vendor is not involved, we can document it :) | 20:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: the networking guide can contain links to docs for 3rd party stuff, but i dont want the docs there. | 20:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont want the network guide to become another outdated/incomplete document | 20:05 |
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| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: agreed | 20:08 |
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| annegentle | ninja boundary defense lines drawing | 20:08 |
| AJaeger | Sam-I-Am: Fine with me. Just define what you want so that we can reference that. | 20:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so... the current spec is just for kilo? | 20:09 |
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| AJaeger | That's when it was proposed, it's still valid... | 20:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok | 20:14 |
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| annegentle | loquacities: heads up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174105/ it basically says only rabbitmq meets the test standards for the messaging drivers | 20:49 |
| annegentle | so will want to ensure docs reflect that this release | 20:49 |
| loquacities | ah | 20:50 |
| annegentle | pretty sure it doesn't have a big effect | 20:50 |
| loquacities | thanks :) | 20:50 |
| loquacities | no related docs bug? | 20:50 |
| loquacities | or docimpact? | 20:50 |
| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: ^^ you'll be interested as well I think, though we already standardized the install guide on rabbitmq a release ago iirc | 20:50 |
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| annegentle | loquacities: it's a cross project spec, so I'm not sure DocImpact would be hooked up there? | 20:51 |
| annegentle | loquacities: but great point | 20:51 |
| loquacities | right | 20:51 |
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| loquacities | i'll raise a bug | 20:51 |
| annegentle | loquacities: cool | 20:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | its all rabbit these days | 20:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | in other news, this cloud admin guide audit is painful | 20:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | no wonder no one could figure out how to do networking. its terrible. | 20:52 |
| loquacities | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1463565 | 20:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1463565 in openstack-manuals "Standardise docs on RabbitMQ drivers" [Undecided,New] | 20:53 |
| loquacities | and now i must away briefly | 20:53 |
| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: delete ruthlessly :) | 20:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: well, in that case... | 20:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/docs-specs: Adds new Liberty spec for API Reference information https://review.openstack.org/177934 | 21:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radoslaw Smigielski proposed openstack/ha-guide: Corosync votequorum configuration https://review.openstack.org/189957 | 22:03 |
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