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| yangyapeng | http://docs.openstack.org/ Centos Fedora is not available | 02:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | nope | 02:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | fedora no longer has release packages and centos only released packages a couple of days ago, so no time for testing | 02:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | the centos guide should appear within the next week or so | 02:20 |
| yangyapeng | Has just been submitted,Not long ago. | 02:20 |
| yangyapeng | OK | 02:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | what about this patch? | 02:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is there a docs meeting today? | 14:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lauren proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Replace: "For more information, see A new Nova service: nova-conductor." https://review.openstack.org/233478 | 14:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] move MongoDB installation into environment chapter https://review.openstack.org/237901 | 14:32 |
| robcresswell | Was there a docs meeting today? | 14:32 |
| robcresswell | I'm unsure if I had the time wrong | 14:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | there should be one | 14:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | and there is not for some reason | 14:33 |
| robcresswell | That's a shame, had a couple of questions | 14:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | ahh | 14:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | can you ask them in here? | 14:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | or i can fire the meeting up | 14:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | (i'm not the chair, but i can push buttons) | 14:33 |
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| robcresswell | I'll leave the question here | 14:34 |
| robcresswell | So in Horizon, we maintain our own docs, but we're struggling a little with structuring. Particularly with this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233709 | 14:35 |
| robcresswell | Would be great to get some advice or input from docs team | 14:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm | 14:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | robcresswell: is this overall structuring, or just for this section? | 14:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | or patch... | 14:39 |
| robcresswell | Sam-I-Am: A bit of both, but its become very apparent here | 14:40 |
| * Sam-I-Am takes a look at the devref | 14:42 | |
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| Sam-I-Am | robcresswell: so, just a cursory look... | 14:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | as someone who works on the centralized docs, i think anything not pertaining to development belongs in those docs (e.g., installation/configuration) | 14:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | things like how to contribute including policies, description of code structure, libraries etc... fits in the dev docs | 14:49 |
| robcresswell | Sam-I-Am: Any ideas on devref structuring: | 14:50 |
| robcresswell | ?* | 14:50 |
| robcresswell | I'd need to do some invetigation on moving installation docs etc around | 14:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | and config docs | 14:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | we have a config reference that contains most of that | 14:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | the install guide includes basic installation and the admin guide includes more advanced options | 14:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think the key is making sure we dont have duplication of things in various places... probably at different levels of accuracy | 14:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | right now openstack in general has problems with some things being in the wiki, some in the devref, and others in the central docs | 14:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is frustrating for newcomers | 14:53 |
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| ntata | Hi all, if a commit contains APIImpact tag, does it mean a bug has been created on the openstack-api-site as well? | 15:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: ^ can you help ? | 15:45 |
| AJaeger | ntata: no | 15:46 |
| AJaeger | let me give you more details in a minute... | 15:46 |
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| AJaeger | ntata: The API team handles this, ask annegentle for details. Usage is like at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat-specs/tree/specs/kilo/template.rst#n46 | 15:50 |
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| AJaeger | I don't think anythinng gets generated | 15:50 |
| ntata | AJaeger, Sam-I-Am - Thank you! | 15:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | robcresswell: did this help at all? | 17:14 |
| robcresswell | Sam-I-Am: I think it was a little higher level than I was hoping for, unfortunately | 17:16 |
| robcresswell | Sam-I-Am: The issue we have is being unsure how to structure docs in a logical fashion, or one that readers expect/ is consistent with other places in openstack | 17:17 |
| robcresswell | particularly wit hthe devref | 17:17 |
| robcresswell | with the * | 17:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | the devrefs are sort of per-project... there's no rhyme or reason to them | 17:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what we'd like to see in centralized docs (especially now that we use rst) is a migration of admin/oper/user content out of devref into centralized docs... leaving the devref for developers. | 17:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think we saw proliferation of non-dev docs in devref due to the perceived barrier to entry with centralized docs... particularly docbook with a complex tool chain | 17:19 |
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| robcresswell | Sure, that'll be a bigger topic for me to bring up at the summit with the Horizon team | 17:21 |
| robcresswell | But regarding devref specifics, if there aren't any real patterns, we'll try to figure it out :) | 17:21 |
| robcresswell | Thanks! | 17:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... | 17:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think you should post to the docs mailing list about recommended structure for devref (for only dev-related things) | 17:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | it would make sense for the central docs group to at least make suggestions for projects that want guidance for their own docs | 17:22 |
| robcresswell | Sure, can do | 17:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | right now that does not exist | 17:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think it'll vary per project, but having some sort of similar structure would help developers that work on multiple projects, or projects that depend on other projects | 17:23 |
| robcresswell | From our point of view, that would be great | 17:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | lets get the ball rolling, and hopefully discussed at the summit | 17:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wont be there, but a lot of docs people will | 17:25 |
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