Friday, 2016-02-26

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openstackgerritAnh Tran proposed openstack/api-site: [network][v2.0/lbaas] Wrong type of parameters  https://review.openstack.org/28500301:07
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openstackgerritAnh Tran proposed openstack/api-site: List listeners API: Missing Response parameters table  https://review.openstack.org/28500401:09
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openstackgerritIan Y. Choi proposed openstack/training-guides: [training-guides] associate: getting started  https://review.openstack.org/28314001:31
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Update neutron tables  https://review.openstack.org/28510304:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/docs-specs: Convert warnings to errors for local builds  https://review.openstack.org/27425804:37
openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Update neutron tables  https://review.openstack.org/28510304:40
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openstackgerritPankaj Mishra proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-reference] Removed duplicate json and yaml  https://review.openstack.org/28510804:59
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openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Install: Nova updates for Mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/28480305:18
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openstackgerritYaroslav Morkovnikov proposed openstack/security-doc: Documentation update to fix minor grammar  https://review.openstack.org/28474705:26
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ha-guide: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/28511906:00
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/security-doc: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/28512106:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/28504706:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Remove markdown script  https://review.openstack.org/28436606:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/28512106:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ha-guide: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/28511907:21
openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guide]Fix the wrong instance name  https://review.openstack.org/28514207:24
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guide]Fix the wrong instance name  https://review.openstack.org/28514207:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-guides: [upstream] Add local training descriptions  https://review.openstack.org/28432807:59
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openstackgerritNguyen Hung Phuong proposed openstack/api-site: Glance: Some Image service API does not have "Error response codes"  https://review.openstack.org/28517909:22
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openstackgerritSreekumar S proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Deprecate 'force_gateway_on_subnet' option  https://review.openstack.org/28423309:37
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openstackgerritSreekumar S proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Deprecate 'force_gateway_on_subnet' option  https://review.openstack.org/28423310:24
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Networking-guide] Few sentence corrections  https://review.openstack.org/28520510:36
openstackgerritNGUYEN TUONG THANH proposed openstack/api-site: Missing "share_server_id" parameter in Response Parameters table.  https://review.openstack.org/28520610:36
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Modify DB support for Aodh  https://review.openstack.org/28521610:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Description of Network Components  https://review.openstack.org/28452311:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Deprecate storwize multipath option  https://review.openstack.org/28365111:19
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Update neutron tables  https://review.openstack.org/28510311:22
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Modify DB support for Aodh  https://review.openstack.org/28521611:39
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openstackgerritSreekumar S proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Deprecate 'force_gateway_on_subnet' option  https://review.openstack.org/28423312:01
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openstackgerritNjira Perci proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: [WIP] doc-tools unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/28412212:15
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openstackgerritNjira Perci proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: [WIP] doc-tools unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/28412212:27
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openstackgerritNam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/api-site: Neutron Provider Networks' link references are wrong  https://review.openstack.org/28527712:49
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openstackgerritBathri Ajay Raj proposed openstack/api-site: [api-ref] updated style value for volume attach request paramaters.  https://review.openstack.org/28528313:01
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Modify DB support for Aodh  https://review.openstack.org/28521613:05
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Sam-I-AmUGGGGGGGGGGH13:30
Sam-I-Amhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/281185/13:30
Sam-I-AmNO13:30
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openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Install: Revert errant patch for glance  https://review.openstack.org/28530313:36
AJaegerSam-I-Am: it took 6 days to merge this - have you given up reviewing?13:36
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AJaegerSam-I-Am: Errors happen, there's no need to get out the gun.13:41
Sam-I-AmAJaeger: at the neutron mid-cycle13:43
Sam-I-Ami cant be the only person who make sure bad things dont a) pass triage b) pass review in master c) pass backport13:44
Sam-I-Amthere's a reason we were using wget. this has come up before.13:44
Sam-I-Ami would hope people know if something isn't there, they should install it13:44
Sam-I-Amthe install guide assumes basic linux knowledge13:44
AJaegerSam-I-Am: all of us do - and each of us has different knowledge13:45
AJaegerThat change was proposed 9 days ago, so plenty of time to see it.13:45
AJaegerI'm fine to revert it but what I'm seeing is you blaming every other reviewer and I'm not happy about that.13:46
Sam-I-Amthe bug wasnt triaged by anyone on the install guide team13:47
Sam-I-Amso thats actually where the problem started13:47
Sam-I-Ama better solution to a bug like this would be a) assuming people know how to install a missing package on linux b) put a note to install wget if it isn't there.13:49
Sam-I-Amso i went with (b)13:49
annegentleSam-I-Am: to me it's the bug triage we have to keep training people on. I have a ton of newcomers and if you want more people you're gonna have to do the work to onboard them and politely tell them when they need to wait for a bug to be triaged.13:50
Sam-I-Amwhat i dont like is that we just broke the guide for ubuntu users13:50
annegentlesince telling people multiple times they have to wait for a bug to be marked Triaged it has started working13:50
annegentleSam-I-Am: it's a draft right?13:50
AJaegerRight now we have no rule who can triage13:50
Sam-I-AmAJaeger: it was backported13:50
Sam-I-Amerr annegentle13:50
AJaegerSo, some friendly sole triaged it...13:50
Sam-I-Amso now its published in liberty13:50
AJaegersole -> soul13:50
annegentleheh13:51
Sam-I-Ampeople triage bugs assuming that bugs are actually bugs, but for the install guide (which has been thoroughly tested) are often user error, typo, misconfig, etc.13:51
annegentleyeah I think there's some training to do.13:51
annegentleand again if you want more contributors Sam-I-Am you need to train politely13:51
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Sam-I-Amso assuming this was a bug, the patch was OK.13:52
annegentleSam-I-Am: right. happens in api-site too13:52
annegentleSam-I-Am: causes a lot more work but it's worthwhile now that I've gotten over the hump of training triagers (thank goodness)13:52
annegentleSam-I-Am: if you have a root cause I'd go directly to the root13:53
annegentleI gave up coffee for lent. sigh.13:53
Sam-I-Ami'm not sure how to train triagers. we've sent out e-mails and no one joins the install guide meetings.13:53
annegentleSam-I-Am: over and over again :)13:54
Sam-I-Amwhat i'm hoping is that if someone new triages something, someone with experience can make sure its proper before a patch is submitted13:54
annegentleSam-I-Am: plus on the bug and reviews themselves is what I've had to do since the time offset is great13:54
annegentleSam-I-Am: yeah that's the hope, but you have to train because you don't have many with experience. At least that's what I'm seeing.13:54
Sam-I-Amannegentle: gave up coffee? sounds like quality suffering there.13:54
annegentleSam-I-Am: heh13:55
Sam-I-Amthats like giving up bacon13:55
annegentleSam-I-Am: I saw that wget change and thought huh? But I should have done more.13:55
annegentleSam-I-Am: sorry about that13:55
annegentlemmm bacon13:55
Sam-I-Amits difficult to know the quirks about all distros13:55
annegentleSam-I-Am: I think people also need the guts to say "why?"13:55
annegentleSam-I-Am: but that's training too I suppose13:55
Sam-I-Amlonger term i might submit a patch to just install curl and wget along with python-openstackclient so we dont have this problem13:56
annegentleSam-I-Am: that would work too13:56
Sam-I-Ambut i'd also hope people can figure that out on their own... depends on where we hold the bar13:56
Sam-I-Amwe cant cover all possible installation methods of a distro. we've had people do super bare bones minimal installs and file bugs that lots of stuff was missing.13:57
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annegentleSam-I-Am: it's a better experience when stuff just works without extra explanation so I like that route :)13:58
AJaegerSam-I-Am: Write up a section at the beginning of the Guide - or a section about Install Guide reviews in the Contributor's guide. both are options for training reviewers and triagers about this...13:59
annegentleSam-I-Am: and realize it's where the newbies are so you're gonna struggle... a bit. I'm lucky in api land where the controversy is more about api guidelines and such.14:00
Sam-I-AmAJaeger: huh... i thought we already did that14:00
Sam-I-Ami remember doing it... but it was in the wiki14:00
annegentleSam-I-Am: oh I hope it came over14:00
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AJaegerMight not have been moved over - but might be there and I couldn't find it quickly14:02
annegentleSam-I-Am: yea might need to revisit14:02
Sam-I-Amyeah i cant find it14:02
annegentleyeah, yea? is that like yay? I dunno14:02
Sam-I-Ammost of the wiki stuff points to the contributor guidelines book14:03
annegentleanyway have to take a stuffed animal to a forgetful kiddo, back in a bit14:03
Sam-I-Ami have to check out of a hotel14:03
Sam-I-Ambbiab14:03
AJaegerSafe travels, Sam-I-Am !14:06
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openstackgerritShilla Saebi proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: cleanup of op requirement sla file  https://review.openstack.org/28097314:23
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Modify DB support for Aodh  https://review.openstack.org/28521614:26
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openstackgerritMajor Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Network guide: LBaaS v2 configuration guide  https://review.openstack.org/27812814:29
openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: cleanup of operator requirements network design doc  https://review.openstack.org/28475914:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Install: Nova updates for Mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/28480314:37
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Networking-guide] Few sentence corrections  https://review.openstack.org/28520514:41
openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Networking-guide] Few sentence corrections  https://review.openstack.org/28520514:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Install: Revert errant patch for glance  https://review.openstack.org/28530314:45
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Deprecate 'force_gateway_on_subnet' option  https://review.openstack.org/28423314:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Update neutron tables  https://review.openstack.org/28510314:48
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: cleanup of op requirement sla file  https://review.openstack.org/28097314:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Documentation update to fix minor grammar  https://review.openstack.org/28474715:05
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sgordon<Sam-I-Am> a better solution to a bug like this would be a) assuming people know how to install a missing package on linux b) put a note to install wget if it isn't there. <-- why does that only apply to rhel/centos/fedora users and not ubuntu users running into the reverse now?15:22
sgordoni agree it is better to ensure it works for both but it seems a bit odd to say we should assume folks can install stuff, unless they are on ubuntu15:23
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openstackgerritStephen Gordon proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Install: Revert errant patch for glance  https://review.openstack.org/28536715:34
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openstackgerritStephen Gordon proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Install: Revert errant patch for glance  https://review.openstack.org/28536715:42
openstackgerritDenis Cavalcante proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add manila install guide documentation  https://review.openstack.org/27372415:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [Networking-guide] Few sentence corrections  https://review.openstack.org/28520516:21
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Networking-guide] Few sentence corrections  https://review.openstack.org/28544617:21
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add backup_swift_auth_url to config reference  https://review.openstack.org/28550419:15
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openstackgerritKaren Bradshaw proposed openstack/api-site: CreateServer, block-device-mapping  https://review.openstack.org/28550819:26
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annegentlesc68cal: hey, should there be a single combined .py file for the First App on OpenStack? Or do we offer the files for download anywhere?19:38
annegentlesc68cal: looking around for the original contributors to see if I can get a bug triaged.19:38
sc68calannegentle: ack. Git repo for the app is here: https://github.com/openstack/faafo19:38
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sc68calI'll have to see if we publish something on pypi19:39
sc68calif not, we should19:39
annegentlesc68cal: oh wow, cool19:39
sc68calannegentle: btw here's the bug url19:39
sc68calhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/faafo19:39
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openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Install: Launch an instance updates for Mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/28554020:59
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openstackgerritGudrun Wolfgram proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Cloud Admin Guide CLI chapter  https://review.openstack.org/28557622:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Keystone: Identity Admin API v2.0 page should contain unique data type  https://review.openstack.org/28215723:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Install: Revert errant patch for glance  https://review.openstack.org/28536723:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Glance: Image service API v2 page should contain unique data type  https://review.openstack.org/28219423:36
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openstackgerritAnthony Lee proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Updating HPE LeftHand minimum client version  https://review.openstack.org/28558123:39
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update HPE 3PAR supported operations for CGs  https://review.openstack.org/28558223:42
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