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openstackgerrit | chen.xing proposed openstack/ha-guide: Fix the inconsistent display of commands https://review.openstack.org/304407 | 01:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [contributor] add a note about the preferred image format https://review.openstack.org/304131 | 02:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: Update ML2 section of networking-guide https://review.openstack.org/282349 | 04:27 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: ML2 section update for macvtap ml2 driver + agent https://review.openstack.org/280801 | 04:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: networking guide: added info about path_mtu option https://review.openstack.org/304210 | 05:09 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: Adds an API guides section to the Contributor Guide https://review.openstack.org/291297 | 05:16 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/api-site: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/304963 | 06:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/304963 | 06:17 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/304971 | 06:26 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/304972 | 06:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Consolidate Technical Requirements in Arch Guide https://review.openstack.org/304973 | 06:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/304972 | 06:48 |
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openstackgerrit | KATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [i18n] Build Korean Install Guide as draft https://review.openstack.org/304987 | 06:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/304971 | 06:54 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/api-site: Updated from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/304996 | 07:05 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ha-guide: Updated from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/304997 | 07:05 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/security-doc: Updated from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/304998 | 07:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Updated from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/304996 | 07:13 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ha-guide: Updated from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/304997 | 07:13 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/security-doc: Updated from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/304998 | 07:13 |
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openstackgerrit | NGUYEN TUONG THANH proposed openstack/api-site: Change parameter name and add Response table for creating a user https://review.openstack.org/305036 | 08:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [i18n] Build Korean Install Guide as draft https://review.openstack.org/304987 | 08:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] move OS_IMAGE_API_VERSION variable into "Create OpenStack client environment scripts" https://review.openstack.org/305074 | 09:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] cleanup keystone apache configuration for ubuntu and suse https://review.openstack.org/304466 | 09:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/security-doc: Shared File Systems service security guide fixes https://review.openstack.org/298227 | 10:03 |
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openstackgerrit | KATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [www] Add Korean Install Guide as draft https://review.openstack.org/305103 | 10:32 |
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scheuran | Hi, can anybody explain where I can find the source for the neutron.flagmappings file? | 11:55 |
AJaeger | scheuran: openstack-manuals/tools/autogenerate-config-flagmappings/ | 11:55 |
AJaeger | scheuran: tools for it are in openstack-doc-tools | 11:56 |
scheuran | AJaeger, cool, thanks | 11:56 |
AJaeger | If you regenerate something, please use stable/mitaka neutron branch - for master of openstack-manuals | 11:56 |
AJaeger | we haven't branched yet in openstack-manuals | 11:56 |
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scheuran | AJaeger, so ./autohelp-wrapper -b stable/mitaka update neutron | 11:58 |
scheuran | ? | 11:58 |
scheuran | Now I'm confused - so if I do the changes to stable/mitaka - it will be "backported" to mitaka and also in master (as not yet branched?) | 12:00 |
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AJaeger | for openstack-manuals: Make the change in master, there'S no stable/mitaka | 12:14 |
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AJaeger | But use neutron's stable/mitaka branch for content | 12:15 |
AJaeger | scheuran: your command line looks fine but I haven't run this for a couple of month ;( | 12:15 |
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scheuran | AJaeger, ah ok - no changes in Neutron required - I just need to correct a wrong grouping of config options.. | 12:58 |
scheuran | AJaeger, thanks! | 12:58 |
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openstackgerrit | KATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add 'generated files' section to contributor guide https://review.openstack.org/293156 | 13:00 |
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AJaeger | scheuran: you're welcome! | 13:02 |
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scheuran | AJaeger, do you also know by chance how I can get rid of the following message while config generation: "No nicename for macvtap_agent" ? | 13:11 |
scheuran | AJaeger, got it | 13:11 |
AJaeger | scheuran: yes, I know - did you figure it out with just asking? ;) | 13:12 |
scheuran | .headers file | 13:12 |
AJaeger | yep | 13:12 |
scheuran | thanks :) | 13:12 |
AJaeger | Always glad to listen ;) | 13:12 |
openstackgerrit | Andreas Scheuring proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add macvtap agent as group to config reference https://review.openstack.org/305265 | 13:17 |
AJaeger | scheuran: congrats ^ | 13:17 |
scheuran | AJaeger, thanks. It was very helpful to learn how that works.. | 13:19 |
AJaeger | scheuran: I commented - we don't like orphan, some other page needs to include your new table... | 13:19 |
AJaeger | Oh, my Denglish ;( I meant "orphans" | 13:20 |
scheuran | AJaeger, makes sense. thanks | 13:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Scheuring proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add macvtap agent as group to config reference https://review.openstack.org/305265 | 13:23 |
scheuran | AJaeger, that was fast - thanks for +2! | 13:25 |
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AJaeger | scheuran: I only needed to check the delta ;) | 13:26 |
AJaeger | scheuran: and didn't want that many iterations like for the Networking guide ;) | 13:27 |
scheuran | AJaeger, yeah I'm also glad that it's in now... | 13:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/305206 | 13:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: Add 'generated files' section to contributor guide https://review.openstack.org/293156 | 13:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/docs-specs: Project Specific Install Guides https://review.openstack.org/301284 | 14:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-ref] Remove work around for checkniceness https://review.openstack.org/305130 | 14:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: Add macvtap agent as group to config reference https://review.openstack.org/305265 | 14:38 |
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openstackgerrit | chen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Correct the management IP of the object storage node 2 https://review.openstack.org/305353 | 15:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexey Khodos proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: NexentaStor5: correct doc page https://review.openstack.org/304344 | 17:24 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Add trove API doc for replication and configuration https://review.openstack.org/303088 | 17:26 |
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njohnston | Hi, I have a question about how to properly show something in the API guide; is this the correct place to ask? | 18:15 |
njohnston | Specifically: in the "Networking API v2.0 extensions (CURRENT)" page, in the "QoS policies" section - http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html#qos-ext - the new methods that the QoS extension enables are listed. | 18:16 |
njohnston | But the QoS extension also adds additional fields to the create network and update network methods. Those are detailed in the "Networking API v2.0 (CURRENT)" page - http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2.html#networks - in their vanilla form. | 18:18 |
njohnston | Without noting how create network and update network have changed, a user doesn't know how to associate a QoS policy to anything. But what is the proper way to indicate the change to the existing methods? | 18:19 |
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agentle | njohnston: you can try here but also #openstack-sdks has a lot of knowledge. I'm going to look for an existing bug | 18:37 |
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agentle | njohnston: or let me restate, have you already logged a bug about this? | 18:37 |
njohnston | agentle: Thanks much. And congrats on the new gig! | 18:37 |
agentle | njohnston: thanks! the bug log is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site | 18:38 |
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njohnston | agentle: No, I havent - I thought I would ping the channel before logging a bug because it seems like something that is likely a frequently asked question. | 18:38 |
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agentle | njohnston: is it related to this work? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/1550559 | 18:39 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1550559 in openstack-api-site " Qos policy RBAC DB setup and migration" [Medium,Confirmed] | 18:39 |
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agentle | njohnston: I mean, I get the basis of your question, which I interpret as: "when another operation's request has to change in order to accommodate a second operation's needs, how do you indicate that?" << is that right? | 18:40 |
njohnston | agentle: This is in relation to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1468353 - and specifically API guide change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275253 | 18:40 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1468353 in neutron "[RFE] QoS DSCP marking rule support" [Wishlist,Fix committed] - Assigned to David Shaughnessy (david-shaughnessy) | 18:40 |
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njohnston | agentle: Your restatement is pretty close. I would word it as, "When an operation that is part of the base functionality is altered by an optional extension, so that the original operation gains additional arguments and responses related to the optional extension, how should that be indicated?" | 18:42 |
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AJaeger | njohnston: that should be forbidden ;) | 18:43 |
AJaeger | njohnston: sorry, can't help here... | 18:44 |
* AJaeger waves good bye now | 18:44 | |
njohnston | AJaeger: Alas I wish it were so. Pure orthogonality would be a lovely thing to see. | 18:44 |
agentle | njohnston: heh, it's tough to describe, yeah. But I think what you need to do is have two different request examples. The vanilla one can remain, then add a second. The current tool lists both. The migration will still need both those sample requests. | 18:45 |
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njohnston | agentle: Should the second example, the one showing the behavior with the optional extension engaged, be grouped with the original method (i.e. create_network/update_network in http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2.html#networks ) or should it be grouped with in the extensions page with the extension-specific methods? | 18:47 |
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agentle | njohnston: yes, with the original method. | 18:48 |
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njohnston | agentle: Thanks very much for the guidance! I do wish there was a more graceful way to handle this, but I'm not sure how such a thing would be easily accomplished. | 18:50 |
agentle | njohnston: should I comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275253? | 18:50 |
njohnston | Sure, please do. Never a bad idea to have a note in the public record. :-) | 18:51 |
agentle | njohnston: I don't even know what dscp is :) | 18:54 |
njohnston | agentle: I'll be giving a talk in Austin to tell you all about it! :-) DSCP is a field in the IP packet header that allows classification of traffic for preferential treatment or security categorization. | 18:55 |
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njohnston | It's a subset of Networking Quality of Service (QoS). | 18:57 |
agentle | njohnston: thanks! good on ya | 18:59 |
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njohnston | agentle: Apropos to your gerrit comment, we can elucidate the acronym (Differential Services Code Point), but I am not sure that would actually help anyone understand what it means. It's rather obscure. Is there room for a short blurb to give a one or two sentence overview, under the heading of the "QoS policies" section in http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html#qos-ext ? | 19:02 |
agentle | oh yes, njohnston please do add more introductory material -- and link to any background that would help | 19:05 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: [Heat] Fixing parameters type on Stack resources APIs https://review.openstack.org/301081 | 19:09 |
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flwang | agentle: ping re zaqar's api-ref | 22:07 |
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