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| AJaeger | loquacities: you screwed up with the release chapter change ;) Want some git help? | 06:38 |
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| AJaeger | loquacities: rebased and squashed it for you ^ | 07:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: Update link reference for api-ref-guides https://review.openstack.org/365395 | 09:05 |
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| loquacities | thanks AJaeger | 09:12 |
| loquacities | i was clearly having a bit of a fail :P | 09:12 |
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| mionkin | hi folks! in sahara we have old documentation [0] that we deleted from the source code but it still can be found through google. could you tell, please, when this doc disappears? [0]: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/sahara/restapi/rest_api_v1.0.html | 11:39 |
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| mionkin | I mean, when this doc disappears from docs.openstack.org, not from google :) | 11:41 |
| AJaeger | mionkin: it only disappears if one of us removes it ;) | 11:42 |
| AJaeger | mionkin: I can do that directly - shall I? | 11:42 |
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| AJaeger | mionkin: we only copy files over, we never delete... | 11:42 |
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| AJaeger | mionkin: shall I delete the whole restapi folder? | 11:44 |
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| mionkin | AJaeger: yes, please, this doc is old, we have a new one: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-data-processing-v1.1.html | 11:46 |
| AJaeger | ok, will cleanup now | 11:46 |
| AJaeger | done | 11:47 |
| mionkin | thank you, AJaeger! | 11:47 |
| AJaeger | you're welcome, mionkin | 11:48 |
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| aslksjdlaskdj | hello | 15:05 |
| aslksjdlaskdj | I would like to report an inaccuracy in the openstack install guide for 14.04 mitaka, but I don't have a launchpad account (nor do I want one) | 15:05 |
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| pkovar | aslksjdlaskdj: i can create a bug for you (if it's not a trivial fix) | 15:16 |
| pkovar | what's the inaccuracy you are seeing, aslksjdlaskdj? | 15:17 |
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| aslksjdlaskdj | sorry for the delay | 15:23 |
| aslksjdlaskdj | in the install guide under page http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/install-guide-ubuntu/environment-sql-database.html | 15:23 |
| aslksjdlaskdj | under 'install the packages' it asks you to do : | 15:24 |
| aslksjdlaskdj | apt-get install mariadb-server python-pymysql | 15:24 |
| aslksjdlaskdj | however, python-pymysql isn't an apt package | 15:24 |
| aslksjdlaskdj | shouldn't it be python-mysqldb? | 15:25 |
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| annegentle | aslksjdlaskdj are you testing mitaka or the newton updates? | 15:40 |
| aslksjdlaskdj | mitaka | 15:41 |
| aslksjdlaskdj | 14.04 release | 15:41 |
| aslksjdlaskdj | I'm just starting clean on that system again and will let you know if it happens again this time | 15:42 |
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| annegentle | aslksjdlaskdj ok, mitaka has been tested thousands of times so I'd be surprised if the package name is wrong. | 15:42 |
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| aslksjdlaskdj | ya thats what I thought too | 15:44 |
| aslksjdlaskdj | I only saw 2 other reports on launchpad and they were labelled as invalid | 15:44 |
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| aslksjdlaskdj | my suspicion is that apt didn't load the repository properly | 15:44 |
| phil_h | Since the suggested connection string is mysql+pymysql you need the python-pymysql package | 15:45 |
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| phil_h | In Ubuntu 14.04, I have had trouble getting it to load. | 15:46 |
| phil_h | In 16.04 it always shows up. | 15:46 |
| phil_h | Hi Anne | 15:46 |
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| aslksjdlaskdj | yup that was the issue | 15:54 |
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| aslksjdlaskdj | apt wasn't using the new cloud repo | 15:54 |
| aslksjdlaskdj | thanks and sorry for wasting your time! | 15:54 |
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| annegentle | hey phil_h glad my instincts were valid :) | 16:12 |
| phil_h | They were!! as usual | 16:14 |
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| njohnston | Sam-I-Am: I have a question for you about how to properly document the new FWaaS v2 information in http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide/networking-introduction.html#firewall-as-a-service-fwaas-overview | 17:04 |
| njohnston | I realize it's outside the networking guide, but on FWaaS the networking guide punts to the admin guide. | 17:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | njohnston: it needs to go into the networking guide | 17:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | the net guide was probably referencing the admin guide because we hadn't moved the content yet | 17:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | then fwaas kind of died | 17:05 |
| njohnston | Should the content be migrated from the Admin Guide, or updated in both places? | 17:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | for now, the content should be in the net guide, and admin guide reference it (if necessary) | 17:05 |
| njohnston | OK, I can make that transition as part of my updates. | 17:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for now, the content should be in the net guide, and admin guide reference it (if necessary) | 17:06 |
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| njohnston | So for FWaaS v2, we have one of those choose-your-own-adventure kind of scenarios, where I could have a section called "Enable FWaaS and have an "If you are using v1 do A, B, C; if you are doing v2 then do A, C, F". Or, I could set it up as two parallel tracks, with a whole set of FWaaS v1 instructions and then a whole set of FWaaS v2 instructions, each with their own "Enable" etc. sections. | 17:07 |
| njohnston | Sam-I-Am: Which approach do you think is the better way to arrange things? | 17:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... right now i'm working on reorganizing the deployment scenarios as building blocks. start with the basics (provider nets with linux bridge or ovs), then add self-service nets, then add HA, and the last phase would be adding optional services such as fwaas, vpnaas, etc. | 17:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'd like to see the fwaas option build off whatever are the minimum requirements in terms of basic neutron architectures | 17:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | so you can say something like "we assume you're doing this... now you can add fwaas" | 17:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Kendall Nelson proposed openstack/training-guides: Revamping Module 19 https://review.openstack.org/366255 | 17:10 |
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| njohnston | Well, both v1 and v2 FWaaS have the same requirements at this point; they need the L3 agent to be in use for creating and managing virtual routers, and they use iptables to implement the firewalling. | 17:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in that case, fwaas requires self-service networks? | 17:11 |
| njohnston | So I think they would both jump off at that point. The choice for whether to select v1 or v2 is purely operator-managed configuration at that point. Yes, FWaaS can not work in provider networking at this time. | 17:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok. does HA impact its configuration? like... l3ha or dvr. | 17:13 |
| njohnston | Not that I am aware of. I believe it handles a DVR scenario the same as a regular router, it just applies the firewalls to the router regardless. I don't believe there is any HA impact, at least none I can recognize at this point. | 17:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok, so i guess it'll branch off the self-service building block for both OVS and LB mech drivers | 17:14 |
| njohnston | FWaaS is purely L3 at this point; we're targeting management of firewalls in L2 for the Ocata cycle. As long as that placement makes sense in that context. | 17:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | in this redesign of the scenarios, the base requirements are 1 controller and 2 compute nodes for provider nets. for self-service, we add a network node that only contains the L3 agent. | 17:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | HA usually adds another network node | 17:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | unfortunately none of this redesign is ready to upload to gerrit yet | 17:18 |
| njohnston | OK. So what should I do in the mean time? And will there be a part of the networking guide that is separate from these scenarios, where I can go into a more long-form discussion about FWaaS v1 versus v2, and why an operator might choose one versus the other? | 17:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'd base your configuration on the nodes i mentioned, and assume they have operational self-service networks. in other words, you just need to add the specific config to make fwaas operational and provide examples using (at a minimum) 2 self-service networks, each with 1 instance, and each with a router connected to 1 provider network | 17:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd add a separate section that describes fwaas (theory of operation and differences) and then put the config in the scenarios section | 17:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | add a link that says something like "to configure fwaas, see X and Y in the deployment scenarios" | 17:21 |
| njohnston | Makes sense. Should I hold off until the new structure is uploaded then? | 17:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | depends. if you can write the content based on the assumptions of the new scenarios, we could at least get a patch in WIP and then make it work with the scenario changes when i upload them | 17:23 |
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| njohnston | Sam-I-Am: OK, I can work with that. I'll add you as a reviewer. | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/api-site: Updated from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/366272 | 17:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nate Johnston proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [WIP] Migrate FWaaS docs from admin to networking guide https://review.openstack.org/366331 | 20:37 |
| njohnston | Sam-I-Am: I can't find you in Gerrit to add you to this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366331/ | 20:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | njohnston: should be mkassawara at gmail.com | 20:40 |
| njohnston | Excellent, thanks! | 20:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bmoss: moo. | 21:34 |
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| bmoss | Sam-I-Am, hey hey | 21:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | yo | 21:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | this patch has broken local builds for me - https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/commit/aa4ff78daf8ade05408700d1050b8988a228f271 | 21:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | sphinxmark has some dependency that depends on some sort of C libraries, yet i cant figure out what they are | 21:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | bmoss: http://paste.openstack.org/show/567274/ | 21:36 |
| bmoss | it requires Bottle and Pillow. I'm guessing the problem will be in Pillow. | 21:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats what i'm thinking | 21:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you know what c dev deps pillow requires? | 21:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bmoss: i'm guessing these docs need updating - http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/docs-builds.html | 21:38 |
| bmoss | not off the top of my head. Strange that I haven't seen this error before when testing the extension. Are you building with tox? | 21:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep | 21:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | did a tox -e build --recreate and it borkerated | 21:39 |
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| bmoss | that should have worked. And yeah, I'll update the contrib guide bit on installing deps for non-tox builds. | 21:41 |
| bmoss | Sam-I-Am, the deps for various OSes are here: http://pillow.readthedocs.io/en/3.1.x/installation.html | 21:43 |
| bmoss | but I haven't had problems just using 'pip install pillow' | 21:43 |
| bmoss | and from what I can see it is working in the gate | 21:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | that would install pillow, but python things dont handle missing C deps very well | 21:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | so my guess is the image in the gate has these C deps installed | 21:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | but thats not necessarily what everyone's machine will have | 21:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | looks like adding libjpeg-dev and libfreetype6-dev fixed it on ubuntu | 21:45 |
| bmoss | true true | 21:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | at least it got past borking and now tells me i have an rst problem (which i knew about) | 21:45 |
| bmoss | lol | 21:45 |
| bmoss | that's cool! | 21:46 |
| bmoss | ok, I'll add some info to the contributor guide with a link to the Pillow install page for people to check if they hit errors | 21:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | aight | 21:46 |
| bmoss | thanks for the heads up | 21:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | da | 21:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | and thanks for making this ext... hopefully it'll help | 21:48 |
| bmoss | I hope so! | 21:49 |
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