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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Remove Jenkins mention  https://review.openstack.org/43828500:05
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [networking] Fix the incorrect description  https://review.openstack.org/43830000:14
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin-guide] Fix the incorrect configuration of spice  https://review.openstack.org/43830100:20
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Change cirros default password  https://review.openstack.org/43831202:01
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/newton: [install] Add the solution of networking components install breaks  https://review.openstack.org/43831502:17
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [config-reference] Fix the incorrect format  https://review.openstack.org/43831602:41
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [ops-guide]  Update the cirros download link  https://review.openstack.org/43783803:20
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update the cirros download link  https://review.openstack.org/43783803:23
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update the cirros download link  https://review.openstack.org/43783803:31
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openstackgerritBrian Moss proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [Install] Document Nova cells and placement API  https://review.openstack.org/43832805:03
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin-guide] Fix the incorrect configuration of spice  https://review.openstack.org/43830106:18
openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin-guide] Fix the incorrect configuration of spice  https://review.openstack.org/43830106:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-labs master: Removed the double slash on the URLs of the ISOs  https://review.openstack.org/43825807:06
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openstackgerritJoseph Robinson proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [user guides] Add missing 'Manage projects and users' section  https://review.openstack.org/43835907:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix the wrong output of the command  https://review.openstack.org/43740308:03
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openstackgerritOlga Gusarenko proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Use 'openstack' command to replace 'neutron' command  https://review.openstack.org/43825609:07
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/43838609:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [user guides] Add missing 'Manage projects and users' section  https://review.openstack.org/43835909:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/43838610:03
asettleberendt: did you do this? :P https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/index.html10:04
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berendtasettle: no, but looks pretty good11:18
asettleIt does, it does11:18
asettleHow was your flight home?11:18
asettleYou and your beanie disappeared through the gates11:18
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/security-doc master: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/43844311:21
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc master: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/43844311:32
openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin-guide] Fix the incorrect configuration of spice  https://review.openstack.org/43830111:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [common] remove python-saharaclient from CLI  https://review.openstack.org/43811311:48
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master:  openstack command check on networking-adv-features  https://review.openstack.org/41985611:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin-guide] Fix the incorrect configuration of spice  https://review.openstack.org/43830112:01
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sfinucanAfternoon, all12:33
sfinucanI was hoping someone could enlighten me as to where I might find the source for the 'build_apiguide' setuptools extension12:33
sfinucan...which was added to nova's setup.cfg at some point in the recent past https://github.com/openstack/nova/blame/8b498ce199ac4acd94eb33a7f47c05ee0c743c34/setup.cfg#L19212:34
sfinucanI'd ask annegentle directly, but she's not available yet :(12:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site master: MyFirstApp: Durability  section for gophercloud  https://review.openstack.org/43774012:41
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openstackgerritAlon Marx proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: update documentation for ibm_storage driver  https://review.openstack.org/43578512:44
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ArpitHii All13:13
ArpitHow can I get openstack doc in pdf??13:13
berendtArpit: we are working on this, at the moment we do not hav official pdf documents13:13
Arpitbut for earlier versions we have...13:14
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Arpitfine berendt13:16
Arpitthanks13:16
Arpitlets wait for some time13:16
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aspiersdhellmann: it's a bug that https://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/history.html#mainline shows unreleased changes, right? they are already shown in the "Unreleased" section14:00
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dhellmannaspiers : the fix is probably to remove the separate "unreleased" section from that page14:01
aspiersdhellmann: hmm, IMHO it's clearer to keep unreleased changes explicitly separated14:02
aspiersif we drop that section, it looks like 2.0.3-23 is an actual release14:02
dhellmannwe need to have a section that shows changes not already in master in order to test the release notes build with new patches14:03
dhellmannbecause when the test job runs, those are on a local branch, but not on origin/master14:03
dhellmannmaybe move unreleased to the bottom of the page and call it "test" or something14:03
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aspiersI'm a bit confused now14:06
aspiersdhellmann: doesn't the current "unreleased" section fulfill that need?14:06
dhellmannaspiers : yeah, it would. we can't remove it, I was wrong to suggest that.14:07
aspiersbut moving it to the bottom would make it very easy to miss, and also break the chronological ordering14:07
aspiersI'd prefer to just fix it, so that unreleased changes are *only* shown in the top section14:07
dhellmannwell, the build will fail entirely if there's an rst issue, so it doesn't need to be that easy to see on the page14:07
aspierssure, but it's actually useful to have the unreleased changes prominent14:07
dhellmannI'll have to think about what that would do in the other projects, where those are typically separate pages14:07
aspiersthe "coming soon in the next release" info is really nice to have14:08
aspiersIMHO14:08
dhellmannsure14:08
aspiersdoes collapse-pre-releases help here, or is that something else? I don't really get that option14:08
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dhellmannthat option combines alpha, beta, and rc versions with the final version. so the notes for x.y.z.0a1 show up in x.y.z14:33
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openstackgerritOlena Logvinova proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: update documentation for ibm_storage driver  https://review.openstack.org/43578514:45
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [ops-guide] Removes index.html to ops guide  https://review.openstack.org/43852414:48
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openstackgerritAllen proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Modify the hyperlink to the correct one  https://review.openstack.org/43853915:06
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openstackgerritAllen proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Make up for those incomplete commands  https://review.openstack.org/43855515:25
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robputtgood afternoon / evening / morning15:31
robputt:-)15:31
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robputtasettle: so in the Ocata release Debian docs are officially dropped?15:35
asettlerobputt: sadly, yes15:35
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robputthow many users does this affect, do we know a % of install base which is Debian?15:36
asettlerobputt: https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/ocata/ we support SUSE, CentOS (RHEL), and Ubuntu at the moment15:36
robputtasettle: have we thought about doing OS independent docs?15:36
asettlerobputt: to be honest, I do not.15:36
asettleIndependent?15:36
robputtyes, so operating systemless docs?15:37
robputtI mean, you can run Openstack on pretty much any OS with Python 3.x support15:37
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robputtso, maybe for more pro users we just cover installation of Openstack services from PyPi packages, and then we leave the OS level stuff to the user15:38
robputtin this case we can tell people how to install the Openstack packages, and configure them on any OS15:38
robputtbut the actual underlying stuff like libvirt, Python3 and so on we leave them to deal with by themselves15:38
robputtit would be a guide for more pro deployers15:39
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asettlerobputt: so, our current set of installation guides are from an 'opinionated' PoV, and that's just it. The assumption is that the more 'pro' deployer can utilise the information at hand any way that they chose to do so.15:47
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ravelarasettle o/15:47
asettleCustomising a guide for a 'pro' deployer is potentially out of the scope for the manuals team. Aside from maintenance, the creation itself is not as simple as you would believe15:47
asettleravelar: YES WELCOME :D I assume you just read my email? :p15:48
ravelarasettle yes!15:48
asettleLucky you ;)15:48
ravelarhaha so I was going to write you back but I figured it would be best to explain here?15:48
asettleravelar: so I checked in the keystone chan. I was defs correct about the v2 / v3 thing. But this particular contributor appears to be changing any 'mention' of the word 'tenant' to 'project.15:49
robputtthat makes sense asettle, tbh in this case I am not sure what I can add in terms of Ocata due to lack of packages15:49
robputtbut for sure the bits and bobs I spotted in Newton Debian docs I can raise a PR for...15:49
robputtits just silly stuff like sometimes it tells you to apt-get install <package>15:49
asettlerobputt: that would be amazing :) and on that note, feel free to update the documentation with helpful things you find, if you believe it would help 'the deployer' :)15:50
ravelarasettle well, it as you mentioned it was a v2 to v3 things. Basically all projects were using different names for it until it was finally decided that we should all consolidate the terminology under one name15:50
robputtwhere in reality for Newton in Debian 8 you must force it to install from the jessie backports repo as they are backported from the pre-release Debian15:50
ravelarasettle it wasn't until keystone released v3 that they decided to push for this, hence the distinct separation of tenants in v2 and projects in v315:51
ravelarasettle but they are representing the same things for their respective version15:51
robputtthis is only mentioned once in the docs, and all the examples do not enforce jessie-backports repo so you can easily install the Mitaka release when you thought you were installing Newton release by copying and pasting the docs samples15:51
ravelarasettle I will review the patches. I don't believe its necessary to completely change tenant to project in the docs IF the doc is specifically referring to anything v2.15:52
asettleravelar: I don't believe so, tbh. I would appreciate teh reviews :) thanks for the explanation.15:52
ravelarI would just recommend that a note is made before the paragraph addressing that this is now projects in v315:52
ravelarotherwise, I wouldn't be opposed to switching tenant to project if its a general doc not specifically mentioning v2 things.15:53
asettlerobputt: that would be really hlpeful :) thank you. And thanks for the explanation also. Good to know!15:53
ravelarasettle np :)15:53
asettleravelar: from what I can see, no specifics. But it would be helpful to have your eyes there.15:53
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robputtbtw one question asettle15:53
robputtI have worked on outstanding stuff in review.openstack.org before15:53
robputtbut how do I transition a bug report in launchpad to gerrit so I can work it?15:54
asettlerobputt: are you saying you have a reported bug, and how do you reference that bug when you patch up?15:54
robputtyep, I will raise a bug for this backports issue, and then open a gerrit so I can refactor the docs15:55
robputtbut I think you can create the gerrit from the bug somehow...15:56
robputtbut I've never dont that bit before, I've only ever worked on someone else's stuff already in gerrit15:56
asettleSo, you create the bug, and then link the bug to your patch. When you're writing your commit message, you need to have: Closes-bug: NUMBER15:56
asettleLike so: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages#Summary_of_Git_commit_message_structure15:57
asettleThe patch links up to the bug, not hte other way around :) that way, when the patch is merged, the bug closes.15:57
robputtahh nice15:57
robputtok15:57
robputtcool I'll follow the wiki doc15:57
robputtthanks for the assistance15:57
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asettlerobputt: no worries :)15:59
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asettlerobputt: if you need some concise directions on committing: https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/quickstart.html16:00
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AJaegerasettle: I proposed that graphical change16:40
asettleAJaeger: ahh! :D16:40
asettleI like16:40
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aspiersiphutch, asettle: so who's going to take a stab at converting https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Pike-Neutron-L3-HA to .rst?17:09
aspierswhilst preserving the angry fruit salad^W^W^Wtechnicolor glory17:09
iphutchI have my hands full with the ToC - can I use my "phone a friend"17:10
aspiershehe sure :)17:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Correct the command of rabbitmq  https://review.openstack.org/43779317:27
openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Does not build PDF by default with tox -e docs  https://review.openstack.org/43770917:31
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openstackgerritBen Silverman proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [arch-design-draft] Compute - Overcommit Section  https://review.openstack.org/43864317:47
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AJaegerasettle: could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438159/ again, please? ravelar has given a +1 on it...18:02
asettleoh alright :P you win18:02
AJaegerasettle: and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438165 as well18:05
AJaegerIt's not about winning ;)18:05
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asettleAJaeger: it is! :p18:13
asettleAlso, thanks for noting this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438524/18:13
asettleI had definitely forgotten to dive deeper18:13
asettleI wrote too many reports :p18:13
AJaeger;)18:14
AJaegerno worries18:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [install-guide] Replace "tenant" with "project"  https://review.openstack.org/43816518:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix cross-platform for checkniceness test  https://review.openstack.org/43812518:28
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [common] Replace "tenant" with "project"  https://review.openstack.org/43815922:42
openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [common] Replace "tenant" with "project"  https://review.openstack.org/43815922:42
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openstackgerritBrian Moss proposed openstack/docs-specs master: Revise the Architecture Design Guide for Pike  https://review.openstack.org/43674723:17
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