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openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc master: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/45505700:14
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openstackgerritJoseph Robinson proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Replace the abandoned command with new command..  https://review.openstack.org/44682502:08
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [networking] Update networking diagrams to change 'tenant' to 'project'  https://review.openstack.org/45464202:46
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openstackgerritBrian Moss proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Update sitemap tests  https://review.openstack.org/45397603:45
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin-guide]Replace the abandoned command with new command..  https://review.openstack.org/44682503:56
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openstackgerritBrian Moss proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Update sitemap tests  https://review.openstack.org/45397605:43
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mpranjicmorning06:46
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix nova placement API guide for OBS  https://review.openstack.org/45513707:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: add new meters for Ocata  https://review.openstack.org/45353307:43
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: [install] Use service names instead of port numbers  https://review.openstack.org/45515508:28
asettleMorning mpranjic08:38
asettlempranjic: I got your email, lucky for you, we do have people that look after the networking guide! So, if you're ever like, I need help with a guide and I need a person who is an expert at that, see: https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/team-structure.html08:41
asettleIf you're ever like, "I need help with a particular project documentation" see here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Documentation08:41
asettleWe have liaisons from each project that help us with sticky situations08:41
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mpranjicasettle: morning :)08:48
asettleo/08:48
asettlehwody08:49
asettleugh08:49
asettleHowdy*08:49
mpranjic:)08:50
mpranjicthanks for the link. will annoy John Davidge  for start08:50
mpranjicjust to get my head around what was I doint on Saturday....08:51
asettlejohn-davidge: you're so welcome ^^08:52
asettleYep, John is combo our Networking Guide guy and our neutron CPL. Which is a bit of a hard slog on his own :P but he manages it very well08:52
mpranjicgood to hear ...08:53
mpranjicnow, where is that openvswitch link ....08:53
mpranjici had it ...08:53
asettleNo rush, not even 10am yet08:54
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix nova placement API guide for OBS  https://review.openstack.org/45513708:55
mpranjicasettle: true :)08:57
asettleAJaeger: did we not already have that?! lame.08:57
AJaegerasettle: cmurphy found a missing piece and I edited commit message...08:59
asettleAJaeger: yeah I just caught up. Dang. I'm glad it was found.08:59
asettleHopefully that's the last of it now?!08:59
john-davidgeasettle: My ears are burning...09:02
asettleAnd thus they should :P09:02
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john-davidgeGood morning all :)09:03
mpranjicjohn-davidge: listening motorhead too loud? :)09:03
mpranjicjohn-davidge: I have a question ...09:03
john-davidgempranjic: go ahead09:03
mpranjicjohn-davidge: I found two documents for openvswitch for openstack:09:05
mpranjichttps://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible-os_neutron/app-openvswitch.html09:05
mpranjichttps://docs.openstack.org/ocata/networking-guide/deploy-ovs.html09:05
mpranjicwhich one to follow?09:05
mpranjicI am doing PoC of setting ocata release from official documentation to verify if docs are clear09:06
mpranjicand on few places I am confused09:06
john-davidgempranjic: The first seems to be specific to environments using openstack ansible09:06
john-davidgempranjic: The networking guide docs dive a little deeps09:07
john-davidge*deeper09:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc master: [Security-Guide] Missing nova.conf api_class in the block storage encryption check  https://review.openstack.org/45481709:07
john-davidgempranjic: I'd recommend following one of the deployment examples in the networking guide09:07
john-davidgempranjic: Would love to get feedback if there are ares we can clear up09:08
mpranjicjohn-davidge: of course.09:09
mpranjicjohn-davidge: i was following this one: https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-rdo/09:09
mpranjicbut networking is not really covered here as it should. so ..09:09
mpranjicI created ansible automation for it https://gitlab.com/strsljen_ansible/openstack but missing the main part - proper networking ...09:10
mpranjicwanted to proceed with ovs and so I got lost :909:10
mpranjic:)09:10
asettleUgh, look at all this work09:10
john-davidgempranjic: This would be a good place to start https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/networking-guide/deploy-ovs-provider.html09:13
mpranjicjohn-davidge: that is the one I was following on Saturday09:14
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mpranjica question: it doesn't say why is important to move dhcp servers from conrtoller node to both (I presume: on all in case there are 10 of them) compute nodes09:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix nova placement API guide for OBS  https://review.openstack.org/45513709:15
mpranjicjohn-davidge: can you, please, clarify it for me, if possible? thnx!09:15
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john-davidgempranjic: co-locating the DHCP agents on the compute nodes allows neutron to provide dhcp to instances on a provider network09:18
mpranjicjohn-davidge: it can't be done on dhcp on controller node as in default setup? or this is just a better solution? and when we provision 3rd, 4th. xth compute node, will we also provision dhcp server on each of them?09:20
john-davidgempranjic: What do you mean by default setup? And yes, usually you will have one agent per node09:22
mpranjicjohn-davidge: I was following this document: https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-rdo/overview.html09:24
AJaegerasettle: there's never a last bug ;) But let's hope :)09:24
mpranjicand in that one, I found only dhcp being set on controller node09:24
asettleAJaeger: don't say that! :p09:24
mpranjicif I misread it, I apologize09:24
mpranjicjohn-davidge: https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-rdo/neutron-controller-install.html09:26
mpranjicjohn-davidge: https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-rdo/neutron-compute-install.html09:26
mpranjicjohn-davidge: from what I see, dhcp is installed and configured only on controller node here09:26
mpranjicjohn-davidge: correct?09:26
john-davidgempranjic: That does appear to be the case, yes09:29
john-davidgempranjic: I'm not sure what networking services are expected to be available in that setup, the guide doesn't seem to say09:29
mpranjicjohn-davidge: ok, lets start from there: is that a error in documentation we should fix first or to leave as is?09:29
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: Fix nova placement API guide for OBS  https://review.openstack.org/45518109:30
john-davidgempranjic: It should work, I think, but it might not be as performant as the other option09:30
mpranjichans09:30
mpranjicsorry, wrong window :)09:30
mpranjicjohn-davidge: so, we leave as is?09:31
john-davidgempranjic: Depends on whether it works or not :)09:32
mpranjicjohn-davidge: well, it does. you can pull my ansible automation from gitlab. it exactly follows that guide. you can start instances and IP address will be set via dhcp09:33
john-davidgempranjic: Great, fine to leave as it is then09:34
mpranjicbut something is not right anyway - I have strong suspicion that network layer is broken at some point09:34
mpranjicjohn-davidge: tell you what: will potpone my ovs work for now. will run my automation clean which exacly follows that documentation. I will then check the status of network and give you feedback on it09:39
john-davidgempranjic: Sounds good, thank you09:39
mpranjicjohn-davidge: thank you. I am bugging you. :)09:40
john-davidgempranjic: That's what I'm here for :)09:40
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mpranjicjohn-davidge: I would just like to see openstack-doc consistent enough so that mr X from company Y can take it and do some PoC based on it without bleeding to death :)09:41
john-davidgempranjic: Haha, you and me both!09:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: Fix nova placement API guide for OBS  https://review.openstack.org/45518109:44
mpranjicjohn-davidge: in that case: we make it happen together :)09:45
mpranjicjohn-davidge: will get back to you soon. ansible is a bliss :)09:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: [install] Use service names instead of port numbers  https://review.openstack.org/45515510:18
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AJaegerasettle: why did you move the case-studies for security-guide *out* of the security-guide?10:31
AJaegerasettle: what'S the plan for these? They are not published anymore, correct?10:33
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/security-doc master: Unbreak Translation builds  https://review.openstack.org/45522510:34
AJaegerasettle: we need this one ^10:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [networking] RFC 5737: bgp-dynamic-routing  https://review.openstack.org/44070310:43
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asettleAJaeger: they are not being published until they have been verified by the security team as accurate. I didn't come across any build breakages though.... ah shite, translate10:53
asettletranslation*10:53
asettleI can +2a that one?10:53
AJaegerasettle: yes, please...10:53
asettleThis is good info, I did not know that baout hte top level directories. Thanks for that!10:54
AJaegerasettle: it wasn't clear from that commit message for the chagne that you really intend to not publish them...10:54
AJaegerThe failure was in perodic and post jobs - and those are "silent". I just checked them...10:54
asettleberendt: sads.10:54
asettleAJaeger: ah. So, for future - how can I check that?10:54
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asettleOr is that an infra job?10:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc master: Unbreak Translation builds  https://review.openstack.org/45522510:55
AJaegerhttp://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_queue/periodic?groupKey=build_queue&searchJob=translation10:55
AJaegerhttp://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_queue/post?groupKey=build_queue&searchJob=translation10:55
AJaegerThose are *all* translation jobs10:55
AJaegerScroll down on each page and check for failures...10:55
AJaegerA red job is one that failed the last run10:56
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asettleOh I *see*.10:58
asettleI did not know this.10:58
asettleThis is good info! Thank you AJaeger :)10:58
asettleThe security team is doing a slow overhaul of the security-guide. A lot of that includes checking over the case studies.10:59
asettleSince they haven't been 'looked at' in a long time.10:59
AJaegermoving them out and in again is really unusual. And you lose somehow translation for those as part of this.10:59
asettleAJaeger: actually, it was weird. I commented them all out, and removed them from ToC trees. But the build would not work unless I completely removed them.11:00
AJaegerTranslations will still be in the translation memory so that it gets proposed for unchanged paragraphs etc but translators would need to check each one separatly11:00
asettleI won't do that practice again.11:00
AJaegerasettle: you can mark them as orphan or exclude from build - things we did in openstack-manuals already11:01
asettleAJaeger: yes I couldn't get that to function. I had the review up for some time but nobody mentioned anything.  I obviously did something wrong, I just could not work it out and the sphinx build was not being helpful with troubleshooting..11:01
asettleIf it makes it easier now, I can submit a patch to put them back in?11:02
AJaegerasettle: leave it as is now, too late ;)11:02
asettleHa, okay. Well, I won't do it again! Pinky promise.11:03
AJaeger;)11:04
mpranjichad to attend to some other thingies.. running automation for openstack right now.. then we will see about that networking status11:15
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asettleAJaeger: snuff?11:29
asettleSnüff just translates to snuff in English :(11:30
openstackgerritJohn Davidge proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [networking] RFC 5737: deploy  https://review.openstack.org/44069511:33
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AJaegerasettle: snüff is more collogial and translates to "crying", "feeling sad" - or "miss you"11:39
asettleAJaeger: got it :)11:48
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin-guide] Import content from Glance dev docs  https://review.openstack.org/45434912:13
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openstackgerritFarhan Kalsekar proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix dead link in Customizing the OpenStack Compute (nova) Scheduler Operations Guide Closes-Bug: #1679947  https://review.openstack.org/45529912:19
openstackbug 1679947 in openstack-manuals "Dead link in Customizing the OpenStack Compute (nova) Scheduler in Operations Guide" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1679947 - Assigned to Farhan Kalsekar (ifarhan)12:19
openstackgerritFarhan Kalsekar proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix dead link in Customizing the OpenStack Compute (nova) Scheduler Operations Guide  https://review.openstack.org/45529912:24
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [ops-guide] Fix dead link  https://review.openstack.org/45529912:31
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mpranjicjohn-davidge: ok, anvironment is set12:58
mpranjicjohn-davidge: I started 2 instances, both having leg in provider and service network12:59
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mpranjicjohn-davidge: I see two issues right away:13:01
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mpranjic1. can't connect to instance console; which makes me a bit blind here13:02
mpranjic2. I fail to explain connection between openstack networks and outside world. I would say that connection is non-esistent atm13:03
mpranjic*non-existent13:03
john-davidgempranjic: Which guide did you follow?13:06
mpranjicjohn-davidge: https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-rdo/13:07
mpranjicdhcp server is set on controller node. it assigns IP addresses to instances13:07
mpranjicbut I can't help it - something very important is missing here13:07
john-davidgempranjic: have you setup your security groups for ssh?13:09
john-davidgempranjic: Take a look at https://docs.openstack.org/newton/networking-guide/deploy-lb-provider.html#verify-network-operation13:11
mpranjicjohn-davidge: hm. I must say I didn't. let me do that first ...13:13
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mpranjicjohn-davidge: I do see dhcp servers on controller: https://paste.ofcode.org/sLd6rAgKZvMNpycJviRkEB13:15
mpranjicjohn-davidge: also, for ther reference - instances: https://paste.ofcode.org/sAb32dvcx5Shp9UqPMYNxb13:18
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mpranjicjohn-davidge: sec rules set13:39
mpranjicjohn-davidge: still, I can't ping any of IPs on instances from controller node13:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [ops-guide] Fix dead link  https://review.openstack.org/45529913:42
john-davidgempranjic: I notice your instances have IPs in the 203.0.113.0/24 range. Is that an actual subnet in your physical infrastructure? The ranges in the guide are for documentation purposes only13:51
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mpranjicjohn-davidge: hm. that is not my actual subnet. If I am gonna use my actual aubnet, I can't use openstack DHCP here since there is already DHCP server on my actual subnet13:57
mpranjicjohn-davidge: in that case, I misunderstood the doc. I got the impression all networks are private and they will use internal bridge to the interface with external network13:58
john-davidgempranjic: Yes, neutron DHCP will interfere with physical DHCP on provider networks. Sounds like you want self service networks https://docs.openstack.org/newton/networking-guide/deploy-lb-selfservice.html14:00
john-davidgempranjic: https://docs.openstack.org/newton/networking-guide/deploy-lb-selfservice.html#verify-network-operation14:00
mpranjicjohn-davidge: makes sense ...14:01
mpranjicjohn-davidge: thnx! will get to that14:02
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john-davidgempranjic: Sure :)14:03
mpranjicjohn-davidge: in the end, I would like to provide automation for both scenarions, but I lack environment for the provider networks atm14:06
mpranjicjohn-davidge: one at the time :)14:06
mpranjicjohn-davidge: will keep you updated14:06
openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin-guide] Fix the incorrect link  https://review.openstack.org/45533414:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin-guide]Replace the abandoned command with new command..  https://review.openstack.org/44682514:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [arch-design] Add descriptions for iSCSI and NFS  https://review.openstack.org/45259914:27
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin-guide] Import content from Glance dev docs  https://review.openstack.org/45434915:53
asettleAJaeger: looking at the community goals. I can imagine this one will affect us: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/python35.html#documentation but not for a little while yet...15:55
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AJaegerasettle: yes, for openstack-docs-tools and openstackdocstheme15:59
asettleAJaeger: thought so.15:59
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asettleAJaeger: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/deploy-api-in-wsgi.html I don't think we have anything that affects this one?16:01
asettleI mean, we build the API docs. But we shouldn't be impacted with the wsgi change?16:02
asettleUhhh wait, we'll have to probs change the install guides if anyone else changes their methods.16:02
AJaegerasettle: we have to document it...16:03
asettleFigures. ^^ as above16:03
AJaegerand install guide16:03
AJaegerasettle: we still need to provide a patch for those sections16:05
asettleAJaeger: okay. Will I need to make a blueprint for these changes?16:06
AJaegeryour call if a blueprint is needed...16:06
AJaegerSorry, meeting now...16:06
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asettleAJaeger: no problem. Looking at everything now. Will probably do all this tomorrow16:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin-guide] Fix the incorrect link  https://review.openstack.org/45533416:24
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/docs-specs master: Move administrator guide to project repos  https://review.openstack.org/43912217:05
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openstackgerritJay Bryant proposed openstack/training-guides master: Reduce/update content for official-projects slides  https://review.openstack.org/45543619:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin-guide] Use the OpenStackClient(OSC) command  https://review.openstack.org/45458422:21
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openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Updates to Commit Message Slides  https://review.openstack.org/45546822:34
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