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| dhellmann | if you add the entry point and it returns values also returned by the main entry point, and you use both of them in the config generator, you'll get duplicates in the output | 13:55 |
| dhellmann | so you could either split things out and remove them from the list returned by the other entry point, or not include both in the config file | 13:55 |
| dhellmann | for the sample generator | 13:55 |
| sdague | it looks like the list_opts in nova.conf.vmware isn't returning quite the expected data | 13:56 |
| dhellmann | the generator finds all of the entry points using the --namespace switch, calls the functions, merges the results without removing duplicates, and then does whatever it's going to do with them | 13:56 |
| dhellmann | it looks like nova/conf/opts.py is doing some magic | 13:57 |
| sdague | ok, this is probably more complicated than will get addressed during freeze. The existing patch just copies things in. That's probably good enough for now, honestly a lot of these imported docs are going to need a haircut anyway, as there is a lot of cruft in these. | 13:58 |
| dhellmann | yeah, at this point in the schedule I think that's probably the best approach | 13:58 |
| sdague | so, for pulling across content from the manuals, I just picked a hash where the missing thing I was looking for was found | 13:59 |
| dhellmann | there's a tag, hang on | 13:59 |
| dhellmann | before-migration | 13:59 |
| dhellmann | that was right before we started deleting things | 14:00 |
| sdague | ok, cool | 14:00 |
| dhellmann | a lot of this info is in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-migration-tracking | 14:00 |
| sdague | ok, cool | 14:02 |
| dhellmann | I have to run an errand, bbiab | 14:02 |
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| ianychoi | Hello, would someone see some strange situation on i18n contributor guide publication? The updated date for https://docs.openstack.org/developer/i18n/ now is June 29 - too old but it should be http://docs-draft.openstack.org/07/492007/1/gate/gate-i18n-tox-doc-publish-docs/2071382//publish-docs/i18n/latest/ from the latest merged patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/492007/ . Some redirection policy or there were some errors on scp execution? | 14:28 |
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| dhellmann | ianychoi : https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest/ shows the latest docs. There is no redirect in place for the i18n guide. | 14:46 |
| dhellmann | We can fix that by adding the i18n project to www/project-data/latest.yaml | 14:46 |
| dhellmann | ianychoi : https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/doc-tools/template-generator.html#project-data-file-format has some details about that data file. Please help me improve the instructions by trying to follow them as they are, and asking questions here (or on the mailing list) if something isn't clear | 14:47 |
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| ianychoi | dhellmann, thank u! I will read and follow it - just strange that the redirection worked previously but I agree that following template-generator for i18n contributor guide is a good idea. | 14:52 |
| dhellmann | ianychoi : I think early on we had a general redirection rule, and replaced that with a set of rules that only apply to projects listed in the project-data files | 14:52 |
| ianychoi | Aha I see. Good direction I think :) | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | the reason for that was to avoid redirecting projects that won't have their documentation updated, like gnocchi | 14:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Petr Kovar proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [www] Update list of redirects https://review.openstack.org/492167 | 14:58 |
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| smcginnis | dhellmann: Was the latest older docs plan that we would leave static files for those releases out there even when the stable branch was removed? | 15:37 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : that is my current proposal; I'm not sure it was officially adopted, yet. | 15:38 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Great. That's being discussed right now at the ops midcycle. Several Liberty or older deployments raised that it's a problem for them that they can't get the docs anymore. | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | some of the docs *are* available online now | 15:39 |
| smcginnis | Liberty and older? | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | there is a landing page for every series (docs.o.o/$series) and it links to the docs that are available | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | some of the guides were not series-specific, and may only be linked from the /latest/ page | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | hmm, /latest/ isn't a Url | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | try /pike/ | 15:40 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Great, that's at least something. | 15:41 |
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| dhellmann | smcginnis : if you can get specifics about what they want that is not available, that would help us | 15:42 |
| dhellmann | because there's a "they deleted everything!" meme that is not quite true | 15:42 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: I'll see, but I think it's mostly config and admin guides. | 15:42 |
| smcginnis | Etherpad if you are interested: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEX-ops-documentation-of-older-versions | 15:42 |
| dhellmann | ok, the config reference guide is there for liberty and newer | 15:42 |
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| dhellmann | asettle, chason, pkovar : ^^ | 15:52 |
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| dhellmann | smcginnis : responding real-time via eitherpad to a conversation I'm not in the room for is (unsurprisingly) not so easy | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | dhellmann: There was a break in the conversation so I tried pointing them to your questions. | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : I'm sensing the usual level of complaining with insufficient detail. Could you press them for URLs that are broken and ask what version of nova network they want docs for? | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | cool, thanks for that | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | dhellmann: That nova-net one is coming from Bloomberg. They are on Liberty right now. | 16:03 |
| dhellmann | I wish all of the ops sessions started with a reminder for how to file a bug :-) | 16:03 |
| dhellmann | ok, thanks | 16:03 |
| dhellmann | it's a shame we couldn't get any of our docs team to mexico for this :-/ | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : what's the plan for mitaka mentioned on line 57? | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: He will add some more details once he's done moderating. | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Petr Kovar proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [www] Update list of redirects https://review.openstack.org/492167 | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | ok | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | thanks | 16:13 |
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| smcginnis | Done with that topic, on to everyone's favorite container discussions. | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : thanks for alerting me, and helping with interpretation | 16:17 |
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| smcginnis | dhellmann: No problem. Wish it was easier between local discussion and etherpad, but hopefully we captured some useful data. | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : it looks like some, yes. | 16:19 |
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| jungleboyj | dhellmann: Would you agree that we don't need a copyright or license in doc files? | 18:10 |
| dhellmann | like a header in every file? | 18:11 |
| jungleboyj | dhellmann: Right. | 18:12 |
| dhellmann | I don't see that mentioned in https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/rst-conv.html | 18:12 |
| dhellmann | perhaps asettle or annegentle have something to say about it? | 18:13 |
| dhellmann | but it doesn't look like it's the practice of the docs team to add those headers to the files | 18:13 |
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| jungleboyj | dhellmann: Great. That was what I thought. Thanks for that link, it is helpful. | 18:14 |
| dhellmann | jungleboyj : maybe you can open a bug against the docs contributor guide saying that it does not cover this topic :-) | 18:15 |
| jungleboyj | :-) Sure. We have had driveby contributors trying to add headers and Sean and I thought that seemed shady. | 18:16 |
| jungleboyj | Thought I would try to figure out the official stance. | 18:16 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I wouldn't worry about approving those | 18:17 |
| jungleboyj | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1709690 | 18:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1709690 in openstack-manuals "Documentation contributor guide doesn't address copyright/license header" [Undecided,New] | 18:21 |
| smcginnis | Doesn't seem like Apache is the right license for docs any way. | 18:25 |
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| dhellmann | likely not, though AINAL | 19:13 |
| edmondsw | asettle is a URL like https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/admin/deploy-ovs-ha-vrrp.html going to have "latest" replaced with "pike" when the release happens? | 19:53 |
| dhellmann | edmondsw : yes, when you branch the repo and land a patch in the branch, the job to publish the docs will publish to /neutron/pike/... | 19:54 |
| edmondsw | and/or is there some way to access the pike version explicitly today, rather than using "latest"? | 19:54 |
| edmondsw | ok, tx | 19:54 |
| dhellmann | not until the branch is created | 19:54 |
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