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openstackgerrityanghuichan proposed openstack/api-site master: Fix wrong links Fix wrong links Some docs links have changed. We should update the wrong links in our codes.  https://review.openstack.org/50109703:19
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/api-site master: Fix wrong links  https://review.openstack.org/50109704:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: ScaleIO Driver: clarify san_ip configuration  https://review.openstack.org/49825805:06
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openstackgerritEric Young proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/newton: ScaleIO Driver: clarify san_ip configuration  https://review.openstack.org/50110905:53
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openstackgerritRoger Luethi proposed openstack/training-labs master: Use Python instead of bash  https://review.openstack.org/50063106:28
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csataripkovar> Sorry I do not know my schedule yet.07:21
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/training-guides master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/50113807:49
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stephenfinCould someone remove the openstack-manuals tag from this? Won't let me as I'm not on docs core https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/166854214:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1668542 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova.conf - az configuration options in Configuration Reference" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Stephen Finucane (stephenfinucane)14:12
* stephenfin is going through openstack-manuals bugs with nova/compute tags14:12
AJaegerstephenfin: why do you need that? It's invalid for openstack-manuals...14:13
AJaegerstephenfin: join our group of bug czars ;)14:13
stephenfinAJaeger: I set it as invalid as the next best thing. Figured removing the association altogether was better :)14:13
stephenfinMaybe that's not possible14:13
AJaegerstephenfin: I can remove it...14:14
AJaegerstephenfin: done14:14
stephenfinAJaeger: RE: bug czars, why not14:14
* stephenfin might turn into a tech writer at this point. asettle best watch her back14:15
AJaegerhttps://launchpad.net/~openstack-doc-bugs is the team14:15
AJaegerstephenfin: would be a nice side effect ;)14:15
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asettlestephenfin: ohhhh I'm shaking in my boots14:24
stephenfinWatch yoself, Settle14:26
asettle:O14:27
asettleHow dare14:27
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stephenfinActually, is openstack-doc-tools dead yet?14:27
stephenfin(there are a _lot_ of bugs for that)14:27
asettleNope14:28
asettleAlive and kicking14:28
asettleATTAFCK14:28
asettle... ugh14:28
asettleIt would be so much more efficient if I could spell14:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals stable/newton: ScaleIO Driver: clarify san_ip configuration  https://review.openstack.org/50110914:29
pkovarupdated agenda for tomorrow's docs meeting, feel free to edit: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting14:34
AJaegerit's not dead, stephenfin. But needs some love...14:34
pkovarstephenfin: do you know if some projects still depend on https://github.com/openstack/openstack-doc-tools/tree/master/autogenerate_config_docs for their config docs?14:35
stephenfinOK, I'll take and see what's worth salvaging there. I know nova is no longer using the config generator tool (oslo_config.sphinxext does it for us)14:36
stephenfinpkovar: Aha, jinx! :D14:36
pkovarheh14:36
AJaegerstephenfin: Just closed ~10 bugs for swagger - we do not use it anymore14:36
stephenfinpkovar: I think cinder and maybe glance do14:36
pkovarokay14:36
stephenfinpkovar: That's because they need to be able to group things more granularly that the 'Opt.group' attribute lets you14:37
pkovarso we can't kill autogen yet14:37
smcginnisUse swagger? I don't think we have any of that anymore in Cinder.14:37
stephenfinsmcginnis: Not swagger - the config reference14:37
stephenfinsmcginnis: How are you generating that now? Do you know if you're using oslo_config.sphinxext?14:38
stephenfinlike so14:38
stephenfinhttps://raw.githubusercontent.com/openstack/nova/master/doc/source/configuration/config.rst14:38
stephenfinActually, I could check this myself. Sec14:38
smcginnisI don't believe so.14:39
smcginnisWe have this: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/tox.ini#L8414:39
dhellmannstephenfin: it would be good to get some requirements together for oslo.config.sphinxext so we can meet cinder and glance's needs there14:40
AJaegerclosed 20 bugs as wontfix in https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-doc-tools ;)14:40
dhellmannsmcginnis : ^^14:40
stephenfinsmcginnis: Yup, we have that too. FYI, it's not needed. https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/4e2441d2ffe3967ba39c6381bd60afcc8e70312314:40
stephenfintl;dr: Sphinx does that automagically. Yay for Sphinx14:41
stephenfindhellmann: Would that be something to bring up at the PTG. Any track I should propose it for?14:41
dhellmannstephenfin : if we have folks from project teams in the docs room we can ask, otherwise maybe visiting their rooms?14:42
smcginnisstephenfin, dhellmann: So we can just include :config-file: etc/cinder/cinder-config-generator.conf wherever we want the sample config generated?14:43
stephenfinsmcginnis: You need to enable the extension is doc/source/conf.py, which I imagine you've done14:43
* stephenfin looks14:43
stephenfinsmcginnis: Yup https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/doc/source/conf.py#L6114:44
smcginnisGreat. jungleboyj ^^14:44
dhellmannsmcginnis : there are 2 extensions. 1 generates a file, which you can the include like source code. the other generates tables.14:44
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dhellmannthe "query" features of the 2nd are limited right now to "group"14:44
stephenfinOnce that's there, the generation will automatically run everytime because of the hook we have https://github.com/openstack/oslo.config/blob/master/oslo_config/sphinxconfiggen.py#L8914:44
dhellmannif you have other ways to filter groups of options, to build tables of related things, we should talk about those14:45
smcginnisSounds good. Switching over would probably be a good start, then we can see what else we may need.14:45
dhellmannwe can work with jungleboyj on it14:45
* jungleboyj is trying to catch up.14:46
stephenfinsmcginnis, jungleboyj: To start using oslo_config.sphinxext, you can probably follow what we did https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/83a9c2ac334712b27704a814552628cf0e536a8514:46
smcginnisstephenfin: Ah, great. Always easier to just copy what someone else has done. ;)14:47
stephenfinWith the caveat around possible lack of granularity that dhellmann notes above. For nova, we were happy with a single doc listing _every_ option https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html14:49
stephenfinLike dhellmann said, if you need more, we should talk at the PTG about it14:49
stephenfinAlso, nice work AJaeger :D14:49
smcginnisstephenfin: That fits with what we are doing now: https://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/sample_config.html14:51
jungleboyjstephenfin: smcginnis  Thanks for the pointers.14:51
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jungleboyjI need to investigate this a bit more.  It does look like we have duplicate config generation though.14:51
stephenfinjungleboyj: I would imagine you dragged all these docs in from openstack-manuals, yes? https://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/configuration/index.html14:52
jungleboyjThe stephenfin  Yes.14:52
stephenfinIf so, it's all these tables that are the issue https://github.com/openstack/cinder/tree/master/doc/source/configuration/tables14:53
jungleboyjstephenfin:  So, we eventually want to have those dynamically generated.14:53
jungleboyjRight now it is a relatively manual process.14:53
stephenfinExactly. The tool that does that statically is buggy af14:54
stephenfin...and provided as part of openstack-doc-tools. We should kill it, but doing so would probably require adding some additional metadata to oslo.config Opts14:54
jungleboyjSo, it seems the todos for me are to look at what you did for Nova to get the nicer looking config documentation.  Then work with you and dhellmann to figure out what we do about the tables in the future.14:55
AJaegerstephenfin: happy to see the tool killed and have everything automatically generated14:55
stephenfinjungleboyj: Yup, that sounds good to me14:55
stephenfinAJaeger: Yay14:56
jungleboyjstephenfin:  Are you going to be at the PTG?14:56
stephenfinI don't know who authored that tool either. Sorry to them for continually moaning about it. Some bad experiences with it, is all :D14:56
stephenfinjungleboyj: Yessir. I'll mostly be in the nova rooms but I'll bounce over to docs and maybe oslo for a while14:57
stephenfinand cinder for a bit, if this comes up14:57
AJaegerstephenfin: authors = team work. Sometimes you need to step back and instead of put fixes on it, start from scratch - so happy to see the oslo.config way14:57
jungleboyjstephenfin: From 4:15 to 5:00 on Wednesday we are planning to talk about dealing with config options.  The topic is condensing our options but I think this is also relevant in there.  Would you be able to join us then possibly?14:58
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stephenfinjungleboyj: Yup, that should be doable15:00
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jungleboyjOk, cool.  Let me collect the links from our discussion here and add it to that discussion  and hopefully we can make some progress.15:01
stephenfin(y)15:02
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jungleboyjstephenfin:  Sounds good.  Thanks for brining it up.  Look forward to meeting you at the PTG./15:04
stephenfinLikewise :)15:05
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asettlestephenfin: naw look at you, making pals15:23
stephenfinasettle: What can I say - I'm a grand chap :)15:24
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asettleehhhhhh15:25
asettlejungleboyj: all I'm saying is, watch out for this snake15:26
asettleHe's like the tswift of OpenStack15:26
asettle:p15:26
jungleboyjasettle: Oh my!  :-)15:26
jungleboyjI will be careful then.  :-)15:26
asettle*nods*15:27
asettleI'm just helping15:27
jungleboyjasettle:  Thanks for having my back.  :-)15:27
asettle*thumbs up* anytime15:27
jungleboyjasettle:  You will be at the PTG?15:28
asettlejungleboyj: sure will be homie. Currently hanging in the Castle in San Antonio before I crawl up on Saturday :)15:29
jungleboyjasettle:  Awesome.  I just just hide behind you if stephenfin  come for me then.15:29
asettleOf course, I am a force to be reckoned with.15:29
* stephenfin runs for cover15:30
asettleThat's right15:30
jungleboyjasettle:  So I have heard.  :-)15:34
asettleYikes please tell me you're joking15:34
notmynamelol15:36
asettlenotmyname: oh mate seriously :p15:37
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asettleAJaeger: look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501097/216:42
asettleShould we consider running the scrappy tool over all our docs to check for the broken links like we did a little while ago?16:42
asettleI imagine there'll be a few more16:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site master: Fix wrong links  https://review.openstack.org/50109716:50
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dhellmannasettle : you might have something to add to this thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/121833.html17:07
asettledhellmann: huh I didn't see that one17:08
asettleTHanks17:08
asettleAJaeger ran a scrappy script all over the repos a few months ago.17:08
asettleIt was very helpful in highlighting ALL the broken shit17:08
asettleWhich we might just need to do again17:08
asettleI imagine we could very easily add a python script to the tox builds17:08
dhellmannasettle : I literally just posted http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/121884.html to point out why doing it in CI is probably a bad idea17:10
asettleha :p okay17:10
asettleI'll have to catch up post-lunch17:10
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AJaegerasettle: there will be some more, yes... I don't have time to do it myself currently ;(17:42
asettleAJaeger: do you have instructions or something lying around?17:42
AJaegerlet me tar what I have together, asettle17:43
AJaegerasettle: I used https://github.com/alecxe/broken-links-checker.git17:44
AJaegerasettle: there are other spiders around as well...17:44
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asettleAJaeger: okay cool :) thank you17:45
asettleWe can use this for now17:45
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [www] fix errorpage links  https://review.openstack.org/50138419:09
AJaegerasettle: this is embarassing ^ our errorpage had broken links19:09
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annegentleAJaeger yipes!19:15
AJaegerannegentle: yeah ;(19:16
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/training-guides master: Update docs slides  https://review.openstack.org/50138819:22
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [contributor] Fix docs-builds rendering  https://review.openstack.org/50138919:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [www] fix errorpage links  https://review.openstack.org/50138419:30
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [www] Update sitemap  https://review.openstack.org/50140420:06
AJaegerasettle: lots of broken pages due to the big move, I fixed a few just now - but somebody needs to do this more systematic20:09
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/training-guides master: Update docs slides  https://review.openstack.org/50138820:20
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asettleAJaeger: yeah okay, we might need to make it a goal... hmm21:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-guides master: Update docs slides  https://review.openstack.org/50138822:25
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