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| gordc | hi, just curious, anyone know what builds https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/? | 16:17 |
| gordc | we have some docs in our ocata branch but they don't seem to get picked up here ^ | 16:17 |
| AJaeger | gordc: you mean the index page? | 16:18 |
| AJaeger | gordc: https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/doc-index.html | 16:19 |
| AJaeger | pkovar, dhellmann,any idea why https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/ gives a directory listing? | 16:19 |
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| gordc | AJaeger: oh i meant. https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/telemetry/ ocata folder specifically | 16:26 |
| gordc | AJaeger: not sure how it gets from https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/tree/stable/ocata/install-guide/source to there | 16:26 |
| gordc | right now it doesn't seem to be. | 16:27 |
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| AJaeger | gordc: there's install-guide-jobs template. | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : we probably don't have an index page there because we have one at https://docs.openstack.org/pike/install/ | 16:29 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: ah... | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : maybe we should redirect /project-install-guide/ to /series/install/ ? | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | allow deep links under it, but not that page | 16:31 |
| gordc | AJaeger: i think we have that? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518731/ we have a build-openstack-install-guide job in our gate | 16:31 |
| AJaeger | maybe... | 16:31 |
| AJaeger | gordc: and a post job as well | 16:31 |
| AJaeger | gordc: let's debug - last merge was 112a465e0d54398a85e41a52d2441518bccc64ff | 16:31 |
| pkovar | maybe redirect as a short term solution, long term lets consider moving those guides under doc/ | 16:31 |
| AJaeger | so, post logs are at http://logs.openstack.org/11/112a465e0d54398a85e41a52d2441518bccc64ff/ | 16:31 |
| gordc | uh... probably don't have post job. :/ | 16:31 |
| AJaeger | gordc: http://logs.openstack.org/11/112a465e0d54398a85e41a52d2441518bccc64ff/post/publish-install-guide/d9487ad/ run | 16:32 |
| gordc | oh. ok. guess we do | 16:32 |
| AJaeger | gordc: http://files.openstack.org/docs/project-install-guide/ceilometer/ocata/ is the result | 16:33 |
| AJaeger | so, telemetry-> ceilometer is the problem | 16:33 |
| AJaeger | check http://logs.openstack.org/11/112a465e0d54398a85e41a52d2441518bccc64ff/post/publish-install-guide/d9487ad/job-output.json.gz and search for /afs/.openstack.org/docs/ | 16:33 |
| gordc | whoa, firefox renders json. | 16:34 |
| gordc | checking now | 16:34 |
| AJaeger | gordc: so, we broke the installation path for that. | 16:34 |
| AJaeger | pkovar: those are only ocata and older, for pike and newer they are already under doc. | 16:35 |
| gordc | AJaeger: i see. | 16:35 |
| gordc | yeah, our pike+ docs are good | 16:35 |
| pkovar | AJaeger: right, so lets not spend more time on ocata and earlier | 16:35 |
| AJaeger | So, question is: Should we fix these links? | 16:36 |
| gordc | so we need some way to map "ceilometer" to "telemetry"? i wonder if our aodh docs are broke to then | 16:36 |
| AJaeger | gordc: Let me try fixing it... | 16:36 |
| gordc | pkovar: well the reason i brought it up is because the people installing/using ceilometer are looking at ocata and earlier because that's what they're installing | 16:37 |
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| AJaeger | gordc: that means after my patch lands, your next change will be published correctly... | 16:37 |
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| gordc | AJaeger: cool, magic works for me :) | 16:38 |
| AJaeger | gordc: would still break and needs a redirect - since ceilometer's service type is "meter" and that's what we use - see openstack/service-types-authority | 16:39 |
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| gordc | AJaeger: hmm.. is openstack/service-types-authority used by zuulv3 and not zuulv2? | 16:41 |
| AJaeger | gordc: https://review.openstack.org/524675 | 16:42 |
| AJaeger | gordc: role set-service-type-data-fact is defined in openstack-zuul-jobs/roles/set-service-type-data-fact/ | 16:42 |
| gordc | ah ok. just read your commit message well | 16:43 |
| AJaeger | gordc: with v2 we didn't use service-types-authority | 16:43 |
| gordc | makes sense to me (although i don't know much about zuul) | 16:43 |
| gordc | thanks for the help | 16:43 |
| AJaeger | gordc: so, once that merges, we need to add redirects to new location from old one - and update the links as mentioned in the first docs link. | 16:43 |
| AJaeger | gordc: I can't help with all of that, please either do it yourself or ask others. | 16:44 |
| AJaeger | pkovar: ^ would be good to check all these documents | 16:44 |
| gordc | err so it'll publish to https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/ceilometer/ocata/ instead of https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/telemetry/ocata/? | 16:44 |
| gordc | just want to confirm what the change is. | 16:45 |
| AJaeger | without my change, it publishes to https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/ceilometer/ocata | 16:46 |
| AJaeger | with my change to https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/meter/ocata | 16:46 |
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| gordc | ah. ok, so it was always publishing just to wrong place. | 16:47 |
| gordc | kk. i'll update the doc links then. | 16:47 |
| AJaeger | thanks | 16:48 |
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| gordc | AJaeger: if change service-types-authority service_type value, what does that affect? a lot of things? | 16:53 |
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| AJaeger | gordc: better ask mordred - and check also where the role is used | 16:55 |
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| gordc | hmm.. ok. seems like safer bet is to just point to new links. | 16:56 |
| * mordred reads | 16:57 | |
| mordred | gordc: service_type is basically a primary key - it's used in a few different places (and growing) | 16:59 |
| mordred | gordc: it is possible to change it, we support historical alias values in the registry - but doing so can create churn for folks ... so if changing it can be avoided that's preferrable | 17:00 |
| AJaeger | mordred: care to review https://review.openstack.org/524675 , please? | 17:00 |
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| mordred | AJaeger: lgtm | 17:01 |
| gordc | mordred: cool cool. yeah, i guessed that was the case. i was trying to be lazy. will keep it as is. | 17:02 |
| mordred | AJaeger: you may also have an opinion on a discussion amotoki and I were having and just pinged dhellmann about ... it's related to the new doc build job, cliff and the cliffdemo requirement | 17:02 |
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| AJaeger | mordred: do you have a pointer or can you summarize? | 17:04 |
| mordred | AJaeger, dhellmann, amotoki: this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515016/2/tox.ini ultimately won't fix the issue since the new job doesn't use tox for sphinx builds, so it still won't get picked up. I pushed up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524678/ as a proposal to just deal with it using the normal requirements mechanisms, although amotoki tells me the one on pypi is a bit old | 17:04 |
| mordred | if we don't do that, we'd either need to invent a way to allow a project to list requirements that aren't vetted by global-requirements, or make a special variant of the docs job for cliff | 17:05 |
| mordred | or some other solution I have not come up with yet | 17:06 |
| AJaeger | mordred: they can always sneak in requirements when the requirements-check is disabled, so one real hack: disable reqiurements-check, add cliffdemo, reenable. As long as they don't change that line, all is fine. | 17:07 |
| AJaeger | might be preferrable if it's just this one repo - but there might be more and I've seen some broken ones in the past... | 17:07 |
| mordred | AJaeger: hah. you have a creative mind, I like it :) | 17:07 |
| AJaeger | mordred: just had to do this for one repo since even *removing* that line will break check-requirements. | 17:08 |
| AJaeger | mordred: so, really depends IMHO how often we hit this. | 17:09 |
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| mordred | AJaeger: well - in *general* the openstack policy is that requirements, including test requirements, go through openstack/requirements, so specifying things in tox.ini rather than test-requirements is ultimately an end-run around how the system is intended to work, but one we don't have a great way to enforce. it also makes it harder for a human to reasonably run tests *not* in tox if they wanted to, | 17:21 |
| mordred | since the requirements list would be incomplete. disabling check-requirements is a clever and low-cost way around this particular instance, but at the end of the day I'm not sure I understand why we'd work so hard to avoid adding a line to the global-requirements file | 17:21 |
| mordred | AJaeger: that said - it's not a hill I need to die on or anything, so if we thing doing the check-requirements hack is the best way to deal with this instance, I can totally go along with that | 17:21 |
| AJaeger | mordred: I don't know what's the best way is and I'm not advocating my hack for everybody. In the past it was difficult to get things into requirements due to the policies around that. If it's easy to get a package in for just testing one repo, we should do it! | 17:25 |
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| mordred | AJaeger: indeed - it's definitely an interesting and informative edge case | 17:28 |
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| AJaeger | bbl | 17:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: fix telemetry install guide links https://review.openstack.org/524686 | 17:39 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: fix telemetry install guide links https://review.openstack.org/524686 | 17:40 |
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| dhellmann | mordred , AJaeger : maybe the answer is to just release a new cliffdemo? | 17:57 |
| dhellmann | I mean, split that out into its own repo and manage it that way | 17:57 |
| dhellmann | which is sort of disappointing to have to do, but, eh | 17:58 |
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| dhellmann | the app is only "separate" to begin with because I didn't want every user of cliff to have a cliffdemo command line app installed | 17:59 |
| dhellmann | it's a development tool | 17:59 |
| dhellmann | though I wonder why we enforce the requirements rules for doc tools | 18:00 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: I recently added handling of doc/requirements to check-requirements since I like the syncing aspect. | 18:04 |
| AJaeger | So, if we release new openstackdocstheme and need new sphinx - makes it easy to update those if needed. | 18:05 |
| AJaeger | But what about not *checking* the file as part of global requirements? That would work as well... | 18:05 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger: I thought we were trying to stop syncing requirements anyway. | 18:07 |
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| AJaeger | I must have missed that discussion | 18:09 |
| AJaeger | mordred, dhellmann, if you two can agree on a way forward, I'll be fine ;) | 18:12 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : tonyb and prometheanfire have been working on that since barcelona | 18:12 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: ah | 18:12 |
| dhellmann | we would still require all deps to be listed in g-r but we would stop syncing the entries as exact matches as long as the constraints work | 18:13 |
| AJaeger | that rings a bell, didn't follow closely | 18:13 |
| mordred | AJaeger, dhellmann: I could see relaxing the check for docs requirements ... although in the specific cliff case it's needed for the tests too, so I don't think that would fully fix it | 18:20 |
| mordred | dhellmann: I'm stil trying to brainstorm other options but so far haven't come up with anything better (or that would work) | 18:20 |
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| dhellmann | I guess we could also move the demoapp stuff inside the cliff package so it's always just there | 18:21 |
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| dhellmann | mordred : why is the demo app needed for the tests? | 18:21 |
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| dhellmann | they seem to pass for me without it installed | 18:22 |
| mordred | dhellmann: I dunno - I thought it was required for testing the sphinx extension | 18:22 |
| dhellmann | it's required for demonstrating how that extension works in the docs | 18:22 |
| dhellmann | mordred : try this: https://review.openstack.org/524695 | 18:22 |
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| mordred | dhellmann: gotcha. so cool- we could relax the doc/requirements.txt enforcement then and it could potentially make that easier | 18:23 |
| dhellmann | mordred : the only reason I can see to do any checks on doc/requirements.txt would be for license validation, but I don't know if we care about licenses for build dependencies if they aren't run dependencies | 18:24 |
| mordred | yah. agree | 18:24 |
| mordred | dhellmann: I think that's close ... but I don't think the cliffdemo package is gonna get installed in that case unless we put cliffdemo into the packages line ... although we could move cliffdemo to cliff.demo and update the entrypoints accordingly to fix that (or even to cliff._demo if we wanted to make it clear it wasn't part of the library api) | 18:25 |
| dhellmann | mordred : it doesn't need to be installed, it just needs to be importable | 18:26 |
| dhellmann | the reason for having it in its own directory now is to serve as a clearly self-contained example so someone doesn't have to figure out what's part of cliff and what's part of the demo | 18:26 |
| mordred | OH - duh - those aren't entrypoints scripts, they're entrypoints | 18:26 |
| mordred | I get it | 18:27 |
| dhellmann | mordred : we'll know it works if /user/demoapp.html#demoapp-sphinx contains content when the docs build | 18:27 |
| dhellmann | yeah, they're just plugins, not console_scripts | 18:27 |
| mordred | and yah - I think that should work ... will be intersting to see if theory meets practice | 18:27 |
| dhellmann | it worked locally, but I was running tox so let's see what zuul has to say | 18:27 |
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| dhellmann | mordred : looks like it's working: http://logs.openstack.org/95/524695/1/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/109e746/html/user/demoapp.html#demoapp-sphinx | 18:32 |
| mordred | dhellmann: woot! lemme reparent the new-sphinx test patch on that and make sure it works on both sides | 18:33 |
| dhellmann | k | 18:33 |
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