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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: trivial: Remove use of 'Application.{warn,info}' https://review.openstack.org/532187 | 06:29 |
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openstackgerrit | ShangXiao proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Replace the http links with the right ones in docs https://review.openstack.org/532448 | 07:53 |
openstackgerrit | ShangXiao proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Replace the http links with the right ones in docs https://review.openstack.org/532448 | 08:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Attempt to guess valid Git URLs https://review.openstack.org/532163 | 09:52 |
openstackgerrit | ShangXiao proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Replace the http links with the right ones in docs https://review.openstack.org/532448 | 09:57 |
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eumel8 | pkovar: Sorry, I'm not able to join the docs team meeting today. I have a parallel appointment regarding OpenStack Summit Berlin preparation :) | 11:39 |
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frickler | eumel8: a summit I can attend without travelling? /me is curious, is this a thing yet? | 11:47 |
eumel8 | frickler: a 300 m walk ;) | 11:48 |
frickler | oh, it is even official, great https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/ | 11:48 |
tosky | it was even announced in Denver, before the Dublin PTG | 11:49 |
eumel8 | frickler: sure, we already started with planning in German Usergroup. If you are interested, let me know | 11:50 |
frickler | hmm, don't know how I missed that | 11:52 |
frickler | eumel8: I'm not so good at organizing things, but I'll ask some other folks here | 11:52 |
eumel8 | frickler: don't worry, it's still enough time ;) | 11:52 |
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odyssey4me | with the changes in the docs build jobs, our previous way of including sphinxmark no longer works for newton docs - is there a new way to add special requirements for docs building with the new job execution? | 13:01 |
odyssey4me | we previously just did https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/stable/newton/tox.ini#L15 | 13:02 |
odyssey4me | on ocata and later, sphinxmark is in u-c and we add it to test-requirements.txt - but newton doesn't have a u-c entry for sphinxmark | 13:02 |
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stephenfin | odyssey4me: You mean the requirements aspect of it? | 13:41 |
odyssey4me | stephenfin yep | 13:41 |
stephenfin | odyssey4me: Just add a 'doc/requirements.txt' file | 13:41 |
* stephenfin goes to find an example | 13:41 | |
odyssey4me | ok, and does that requirement *have* to be present in u-c? | 13:41 |
stephenfin | Hmm, that's a good question. I don't know. Maybe dhellmann does though | 13:42 |
stephenfin | dhellmann: See above. Do requirements in 'doc/requirements.txt' have to be tracked in u-c? | 13:42 |
stephenfin | odyssey4me: Also, here's that example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531881/ | 13:42 |
stephenfin | odyssey4me: Doesn't docs.o.o automatically do that watermarking for us? | 13:44 |
stephenfin | At least, for older versions | 13:45 |
odyssey4me | I'm not aware of that being the case. If so, how? | 13:45 |
stephenfin | I thought it was automatic. We used to have a red watermark with the version of the docs in them, at least for the config-guide | 13:46 |
stephenfin | See https://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/config-reference/compute/config-options.html | 13:46 |
stephenfin | I've no idea how we were doing that though. It predates my involvement in docs | 13:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Replace the http links with the right ones in docs https://review.openstack.org/532448 | 14:12 |
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pkovar | all: docs meeting starts in 20 mins | 15:41 |
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pkovar | #startmeeting docteam | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 10 16:00:32 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pkovar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 16:00 |
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pkovar | #topic roll call | 16:00 |
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pkovar | who's around for today's meeting? :) | 16:01 |
d0ugal | o/ | 16:01 |
ianychoi | o/ | 16:01 |
pkovar | welcome :) | 16:02 |
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pkovar | since ianychoi is around, let's begin with... | 16:04 |
pkovar | #topic PDF builds | 16:04 |
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pkovar | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509297/ | 16:04 |
pkovar | this is an older review, possibly stalled | 16:04 |
pkovar | ianychoi: do you know if there's an update/request for comments/help needed wrt that spec proposal? | 16:05 |
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pkovar | okay, let's do a couple of announcements since we don't have that many people around today :) | 16:08 |
pkovar | #topic Docs retention policy changes | 16:08 |
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pkovar | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/queens/retention-policy.html | 16:09 |
ianychoi | Oh sorry - I just sent an e-mail for different task. Let's talk about PDF things after discussing other topics first. | 16:09 |
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pkovar | okay, no worries | 16:10 |
pkovar | #info we have a pending review for adding deprecation badges | 16:10 |
pkovar | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530142/ | 16:10 |
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pkovar | which is a good start in a long process involving updating openstackdocstheme as well, as pointed out by dhellmann | 16:10 |
pkovar | if you have feedback for this initial change, please add comments :) | 16:11 |
pkovar | next announcement | 16:12 |
pkovar | #topic Rocky PTG | 16:12 |
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pkovar | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 16:12 |
pkovar | #info Planning etherpad for docs+i18n created | 16:12 |
pkovar | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-rocky | 16:12 |
pkovar | #info Sign up and tell us your preference wrt parcel time into small chunks or have full-day focus on one team agenda? | 16:13 |
pkovar | # info add your own topics to the list of what we want to cover at the ptg | 16:13 |
pkovar | for both docs & i18n | 16:13 |
pkovar | questions, comments so far? :) | 16:14 |
pkovar | #topic Bug Triage Team | 16:14 |
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ianychoi | Cool :) | 16:15 |
pkovar | #info you can still sign up | 16:15 |
pkovar | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams | 16:15 |
pkovar | this is for bug triage for openstack-manuals | 16:15 |
pkovar | since project teams have their own bug triage processes | 16:16 |
pkovar | and that includes docs related bugs | 16:16 |
pkovar | #topic PDF builds | 16:16 |
*** openstack changes topic to "PDF builds (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 16:16 | |
pkovar | back to the topic :) | 16:16 |
ianychoi | Thank u :) | 16:17 |
ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124863.html | 16:17 |
ianychoi | Doug asked whether PDF builds target all (always build) or not | 16:17 |
ianychoi | And I posted several perspectives. | 16:18 |
ianychoi | pkovar, Do u have some preferences on such perspectives? | 16:18 |
ianychoi | Or which documents should be targeted for PDF builds? | 16:18 |
pkovar | ianychoi: i'm not sure we have enough date now to understand if there is a strong user requirement for pdf builds for project team docs, for example | 16:20 |
pkovar | but i take it as translators are one of the interest groups? | 16:20 |
pkovar | as for openstack-manuals docs, if we already build pdfs for some, i see no reason why not enable it for others | 16:21 |
ianychoi | As far as I know, China has interests on PDF builds because of some rather slow Internet environment | 16:21 |
pkovar | sounds like a big customer then :) | 16:22 |
ianychoi | For interests in translators, translated PDF build generation needs to be implemented but IMHO project doc translation support needs to be implemented first. | 16:22 |
ianychoi | That topic would be on the top in Rocky PTG for I18n team. | 16:23 |
ianychoi | Haha.. yes :) | 16:23 |
pkovar | right, good point, so that would be a separate topic rather | 16:23 |
pkovar | great | 16:23 |
pkovar | can't comment on the potential slowness of the build process, is that a big concern? | 16:23 |
ianychoi | Not a big concern if infra team thinks that such slowness is acceptable | 16:24 |
* stephenfin arrives really late | 16:27 | |
pkovar | one more question about project team pdfs, are we going to build a single pdf file per project? | 16:27 |
pkovar | for larger project docs, having one big pdf might affect its usability | 16:27 |
ianychoi | Per | 16:28 |
ianychoi | Aha.. per document | 16:28 |
pkovar | okay | 16:28 |
ianychoi | Yep.. each project team has just one conf.py in doc/source | 16:28 |
pkovar | right | 16:29 |
pkovar | well, in any case that's a usability question, not a technical blocker | 16:29 |
ianychoi | For example, https://docs.openstack.org/ha-guide/HAGuide.pdf#30 => #30 indicates page 30 | 16:30 |
pkovar | that works pretty well | 16:31 |
pkovar | cool | 16:31 |
ianychoi | I will more find options using "#" things.. maybe several section name would be supported but I am not sure now. | 16:31 |
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ianychoi | Unfortunately I have so less possibility to go to Rocky PTG, but would u help later on updating PTI document to include PDF things? PDF builds were not included in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508694/ and I think that is needed before removing WIP in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509297/ | 16:31 |
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pkovar | ianychoi: i will do my best to help, yes :) | 16:33 |
pkovar | okay, so let's keep the -1 on /509297/ for now | 16:33 |
ianychoi | Thank u yep :) | 16:34 |
pkovar | ianychoi: what would be the next step here then? | 16:34 |
ianychoi | pkovar, I think writing an update as a patch on governance repository would be a good idea. | 16:35 |
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ianychoi | since PTI applies to all OpenStack projects | 16:36 |
ianychoi | And finally, is there a plan to update openstackdocstheme version? I think newer version will enable not to write release information for PDFs if not configured in conf.py | 16:36 |
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pkovar | ianychoi: can you initiate the pti change? i am afraid i don't know many details to move that forward on my own | 16:38 |
ianychoi | pkovar, yep but plz give some time to me and I will try to do that before PTG for Docs team to discuss this topics with other PTI experts who would be in PTG (e.g., Doug, Monty) | 16:40 |
pkovar | sounds good! | 16:41 |
pkovar | ianychoi: let's postpone this until the week before ptg | 16:41 |
ianychoi | Thank u :) | 16:42 |
pkovar | #info updating PTI will be needed in order to unblock the pdf spec | 16:42 |
pkovar | #info let's discuss again before the rocky ptg and then try to work together on the update at the ptg | 16:43 |
pkovar | stephenfin: you around? we got a q about openstackdocstheme :) | 16:43 |
stephenfin | Shoot | 16:43 |
pkovar | (05:36:37 PM) ianychoi: And finally, is there a plan to update openstackdocstheme version? I think newer version will enable not to write release information for PDFs if not configured in conf.py | 16:43 |
* stephenfin goes to find the commit in question | 16:44 | |
stephenfin | pkovar: You're looking for 9219e0b38838bb8c788849b792180e4502e2b3a6 | 16:44 |
stephenfin | (Change ID I0401e913658eff75a53e39c564e7f5ea88bd6b35) | 16:44 |
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pkovar | https://github.com/openstack/openstackdocstheme/commit/9219e0b38838bb8c788849b792180e4502e2b3a6 | 16:44 |
ianychoi | I simply saw github: https://github.com/openstack/openstackdocstheme/tree/1.17.0 and the latest commit was about 3 months ago | 16:45 |
ianychoi | But PDF release functionality was implemented about 2 months ago as far as I know | 16:45 |
stephenfin | ianychoi: In that case, I guess we best release it | 16:45 |
pkovar | ianychoi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531768/ | 16:45 |
stephenfin | but there is one blocker | 16:45 |
tosky | that certain patch for source path detection? :) | 16:46 |
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stephenfin | The very same :) | 16:46 |
ianychoi | Oh 1.18.0 patch is on-going :) Good! | 16:46 |
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ianychoi | My approach is not so cool but fast just from my simple trial :) | 16:47 |
stephenfin | So yeah, we can definitely release that once the source path detection thing is resolved | 16:48 |
stephenfin | Guess we'll leave that to dhellmann | 16:48 |
pkovar | stephenfin: what is the blocking patch chage id again? | 16:48 |
stephenfin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532163/ | 16:48 |
stephenfin | and the preceding patch | 16:48 |
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pkovar | #info openstackdocstheme 1.18.0 on the way but blocked by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532163/ | 16:49 |
pkovar | thanks, stephenfin | 16:49 |
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ianychoi | Thanks stephenfin ! | 16:49 |
stephenfin | np | 16:49 |
pkovar | and many more pending changes in https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1732630+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 16:50 |
pkovar | also, thanks goes to tosky :) | 16:51 |
pkovar | and thank you, ianychoi | 16:51 |
ianychoi | pkovar, thank u! | 16:51 |
pkovar | we should have like a kudos meeting item for this meeting | 16:52 |
stephenfin | :) | 16:52 |
ianychoi | :) | 16:52 |
pkovar | #topic Open discussion | 16:53 |
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pkovar | any other comments, concerns? | 16:53 |
* tosky didn't do anything O.o | 16:54 | |
pkovar | tosky: i see your comments everywhere :) | 16:54 |
tosky | ah, the -1 | 16:54 |
pkovar | yeah, sometimes a -1 is more important than anything, tosky | 16:55 |
pkovar | alright, thanks again for joining the meeting today | 16:58 |
pkovar | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 10 16:58:55 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2018/docteam.2018-01-10-16.00.html | 16:58 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2018/docteam.2018-01-10-16.00.txt | 16:58 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2018/docteam.2018-01-10-16.00.log.html | 16:59 |
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corvus | hi, we need to reboot the server for docs.openstack.org. should be down for about a minute. is it okay to do that now, or would that be problematic? | 18:44 |
AJaeger | corvus: go for it, you have my blessing ;) | 18:44 |
corvus | cool, i'll let you know when it's down and up again | 18:44 |
corvus | rebooting now | 18:45 |
corvus | server is up | 18:47 |
corvus | and apache is up and serving | 18:47 |
corvus | sorry that was longer than 1min. seems to shutdown slowly. | 18:48 |
corvus | AJaeger: things look good? | 18:48 |
AJaeger | corvus: yes! | 18:48 |
AJaeger | thanks, corvus ! | 18:49 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: The zuul system is being restarted to apply security updates and will be offline for several minutes. It will be restarted and changes re-equeued; changes approved during the downtime will need to be rechecked or re-approved. | 22:22 | |
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