Wednesday, 2018-01-24

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/53713301:22
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openstackgerritJeremy Liu proposed openstack/security-doc master: Correct a typo in ephemeral storage encryption section  https://review.openstack.org/53722702:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/53713306:06
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update to openstackdocstheme 1.18.1  https://review.openstack.org/53726706:08
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/security-doc master: Require openstackdocstheme 1.18.1  https://review.openstack.org/53726806:09
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/api-site master: Require openstackdocstheme 1.18.1  https://review.openstack.org/53726906:10
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Redirect zuulv3 feature branch  https://review.openstack.org/53728407:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc master: Correct a typo in ephemeral storage encryption section  https://review.openstack.org/53722707:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [contrib] Update docs review content  https://review.openstack.org/53653107:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update docs for documentation bugs  https://review.openstack.org/53691207:25
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Redirect zuulv3 feature branch  https://review.openstack.org/53728407:55
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/53729708:26
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openstackgerritlei zhang proposed openstack/api-site master: Add API Reference link of Workflow service (mistral)  https://review.openstack.org/53632208:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/53729709:37
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pkovarall: don't have much for today's mtg agenda13:11
pkovarif you have some ideas, please edit https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting13:11
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit has been suffering from a full disk, some mails may have been lost in the last couple of hours. we will now restart gerrit to address ongoing slowness, too15:23
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pkovarall: meeting starts in 12 mins15:49
pkovar1115:49
pkovarand counting15:49
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pkovar115:59
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pkovar#startmeeting docteam16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 24 16:00:51 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is pkovar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'docteam'16:00
pkovar#topic roll call16:01
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pkovarwho's around today?16:01
pkovarmight be a very quiet mtg today then16:02
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pkovarin which case let me just make a few quick announcements and close this16:05
pkovar#topic Rocky PTG16:05
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pkovar#link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/16:05
pkovar#info Planning etherpad for docs+i18n created16:06
pkovar#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-rocky16:06
pkovar#info Sign up and tell us your preference wrt parcel time into small chunks or have full-day focus on one team agenda?16:06
chasono/16:07
stephenfino/16:08
pkovarhey chason16:09
pkovarstephenfin: hi16:09
chasonHi pkovar and stephenfin16:09
pkovarchason: any chance you going to dublin next month?16:09
chasonpkovar guess not. :(16:11
pkovarchason: would it help if future ptgs were in east asia?16:12
pkovarwe can give that feedback to the prg organizers16:12
pkovarptg, rather16:12
chasonpkovar Oh, My pleasure. :D16:13
pkovarthere are trying to balance locations, so it used to be just the us, now its in europe16:14
pkovarthe next one might be in the us again16:15
pkovars/there/their/16:16
dhellmanno/16:16
pkovarexcuse my typos16:16
pkovargood thing i am not a writer!16:16
pkovarthey, i mean16:16
chasonpkovar OK.. doesn't sound good to me.16:16
chasonhahah16:17
pkovaryeah, if there are more interested people from asian countries, i believe they could consider an asian location16:17
chasonasettle just like you16:17
asettleHeyyy16:17
asettleWhat's that? :)16:17
pkovara meeting, asettle16:17
pkovarwelcome!16:17
asettleHey hey!16:17
asettle:D16:17
pkovarjust discussing possible ptg locations16:18
chasonasettle Hey, catch you!16:19
asettleo/16:19
pkovarokay, next i wanted to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530142/ but i don't see Jimmy around, will discuss later then16:20
pkovar#info as dhellmann pointed out adding badges will require further work in openstackdocstheme16:21
dhellmannmaybe we should make sure that's on the agenda for the ptg16:22
pkovar#action ensure https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530142/ is on the ptg agenda16:22
pkovarwith the right people around, we have a good chance to resolve the outstanding issues quickly16:23
pkovarso yeah, good point16:23
pkovardhellmann: and thanks for updating the etherpad :)16:24
dhellmann:-)16:24
pkovar#info action taken, resolved16:25
pkovaranything else for ptg discussion ideas & comments?16:26
dhellmannI think going through the goals and previous PTG notes will give us plenty to discuss16:27
dhellmannwe could talk about migrating to storyboard for bug tracking16:27
pkovarthat's exactly what i wanted to do16:27
pkovarwe have a few unresolved ToDos16:28
pkovarfrom denver16:28
pkovarbut only a few16:28
dhellmannyeah, maybe we should focus on those before taking on anything else new16:28
pkovarACTION: asettle to write python script to include in tox/gate checks to verify latest.yaml against projects.yaml16:28
pkovarasettle: if you around, is this still a plan of yours? ^16:28
pkovar* are16:28
* dhellmann struggles to remember what that means16:28
pkovarValidate project list against the governance repository16:29
pkovarto ensure consistency16:29
asettleHEY HOW DID THAT HAPPEN hahahhhaha16:29
asettleI forgot about that entirely16:29
pkovarasettle: i know, sorry :)16:29
asettleWow sorry16:29
asettleI suck16:29
pkovarno worries16:30
pkovarasettle: you going to dublin?16:30
asettleSure am - but in a more unofficial capacity. I'll be working at the same time on my day-to-day job stuff.16:31
pkovarok ok16:32
pkovarasettle: maybe sign up --> etherpad ;)16:32
asettleCould you link me to the etherpad? :)16:33
pkovarasettle: absolutely, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-rocky16:33
pkovarokay, i only got one more topic for today's meeting16:34
pkovar#topic Bug Triage Team16:35
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pkovar#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams16:35
pkovaryes, you can still sign up :)16:35
pkovar#info Updated docs for documentation bug triaging16:35
pkovar#link https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/doc-bugs.html16:35
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pkovari going through all the pages in that guide16:35
pkovarhope to have it reviewed all soon16:35
pkovarif you see issues, do report them :)16:36
dhellmannyou've been doing some nice cleanup work on that part of the guide16:36
pkovarit still needs many more updates16:37
dhellmannI'm sure. Incremental improvements ftw.16:37
pkovari also want to restructure the ToC of the guide16:37
pkovarright now it's a bit unorganized16:37
pkovari think it needs categorization like content planning and writing16:38
pkovarbuilding and publishing16:38
pkovarsetting up docs16:38
pkovarteam governance16:38
pkovarstuff like that16:38
chasonpkovar sounds good!16:40
pkovarthanks :)16:41
pkovar#topic Open discussion16:41
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pkovarso this week is Rocky PTLs self-nomination16:43
pkovari do plan to run again16:43
asettleHooray!16:43
pkovarbut also wanted to encourage everyone else on the team to run if they are thinking about it16:44
asettleAhh look, as you can tell by my lack of activity over this release, migrating docs took the wind out of my sails :p16:45
pkovarunderstood16:45
asettleThanks for running again :)16:45
pkovarheh16:45
chasonThanks pkovar16:45
chasonBTW, I have added a topic to PTG etherpad. :)16:47
chasonProject bugs with a "doc" tag will notify openstack-manuals?16:47
chasonDon't know whether it will make sense.16:47
asettleOh we definitely have done that before16:47
pkovarchason: notify the cores for openstack-manuals? or those who track bugs?16:48
pkovarchason: something like https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/doc-impact.html ?16:48
chasonpkovar Yeah16:49
pkovarcool16:49
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pkovardefinitely something we should discuss16:50
pkovarpossibly with project people16:50
pkovarmaybe during the team days, too16:50
chasonI just think our project is too quiet. we need something to do.16:51
pkovarthanks, chason16:51
pkovaragreed :)16:51
chasonasettle Exactly, we do. :D16:51
asettleSo, we've done it before16:52
asettleAnd my only push back is that it generated *so* much spam for us16:52
asettleBecause people within projects were tagging their own stuff with 'doc' and we closed more bugs than we fixed16:53
asettleBut, we can discuss that at the PTG :)16:53
asettleIt's work revisiting if we can narrow the problems down16:53
pkovarasettle: if you add some of those points to the etherpad, that would be great16:53
pkovar* you can16:54
pkovari can't write, apparently16:54
pkovarother comments, ideas, concerns, thoughts?16:56
pkovar#info chason added a topic idea for ptg: Project bugs with a "doc" tag will notify openstack-manuals16:57
pkovarokay, thanks everybody16:57
pkovar#endmeeting16:58
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: ignore unofficial projects in latest.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/53745517:01
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: remove python-ceilometerclient and pylockfile  https://review.openstack.org/53745617:01
dhellmannpkovar , asettle : for your review ^^17:01
asettleSure :)17:01
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dhellmannpkovar : while projects are considering their end-of-cycle wrap up work, you could suggest that they make sure their projects are listed in latest.yaml so the docs site links to the project docs17:19
pkovardhellmann: yes, that was on my list together with reviewing the docs liaison role17:21
dhellmann++17:22
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: ignore unofficial projects in latest.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/53745519:42
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: remove python-ceilometerclient and pylockfile  https://review.openstack.org/53745619:42
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