| fungi | so that puts us at 4x Red Hat which is not a majority (just barely) | 00:00 |
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| tonyb | fungi: Yeah so close | 00:00 |
| fungi | yay! once again i avoid ending up back on the tc ;) | 00:00 |
| fungi | good work everyone! | 00:00 |
| tonyb | fungi: congrats! | 00:01 |
| ianychoi[m] | Congrats! | 00:01 |
| fungi | i'm celebrating over here | 00:02 |
| ianychoi[m] | Thank you all - since Tony is working on finalizing stuff, I will see and try to +1 on the upcoming reviews :) | 00:04 |
| tonyb | ianychoi[m]: Tahnks | 00:10 |
| tonyb | Gah Thanks | 00:10 |
| tonyb | looks like update-goverenance is very broken :( | 00:10 |
| fungi | also, in case it was missed in #openstack-tc discussion, the reference/members.yaml is supposed to list the start month/year now since recent bylaws changes make it hard to accurately predict the end month of a term | 00:12 |
| ianychoi[m] | (Executing update-governance on my local machine now) | 00:14 |
| ianychoi[m] | It works except some DPL project items to reflect PTL results | 00:16 |
| tonyb | ianychoi[m]: Yeah DPL projects are the worst affected. | 00:17 |
| tonyb | ianychoi[m]: Also it doesn't do the TC side of things | 00:18 |
| tonyb | ianychoi[m]: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/874042 I added you as a reviewer | 00:19 |
| tonyb | ianychoi[m]: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:2023.2-elections for the 2 changes | 00:20 |
| tonyb | fungi: Why do we include the Foundation memberid for the TC members: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/874042/1/reference/members.yaml#60 | 00:24 |
| fungi | that makes it easier to look up their membership and affiliation since there are affiliation limits | 00:28 |
| fungi | tc members have to be individual members of the foundation in good standing, and a strict majority cannot have the same affiliation | 00:30 |
| tonyb | Ah okay. | 00:30 |
| tonyb | I have a script that looks that up but keys off the emaila ddress rathr than than storing the memberid | 00:30 |
| fungi | yeah, i don't think it's strictly necessary to include, fwiw | 00:31 |
| fungi | we have an api we can query with the address already | 00:32 |
| tonyb | yeah I use lookup_osf() from the elections code :) | 00:32 |
| tonyb | anyway it was "new" to me so I was curious | 00:32 |
| fungi | in theory the governance site sphinx extension could use those to hyperlink their rows to foundation member profiles, i suppose (but it currently doesn't) | 00:34 |
| tonyb | Yeah we could do that | 00:34 |
| gmann | tonyb: ianychoi[m]: so we are closing the election or keeping TC campaigning period ? | 00:45 |
| fungi | they can campaign, but there's no poll at the end of it if they do | 00:46 |
| gmann | yeah i know there is no election | 00:47 |
| gmann | in one of the election we did wait for the TC campaigning before closing the election even there was no poll | 00:47 |
| fungi | though we had at least one ptl poll that time, if memory serves | 00:48 |
| gmann | it was both case. 1 PTL election and no election at all but there was TC campaigning period | 00:59 |
| gmann | these are example from previous two election with no poll but still campaigning https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-February/027311.html https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-August/024402.html | 01:03 |
| gmann | tonyb: ianychoi[m]: let's do that for this cycle too and after that we can close the election. Even there is no poll but it will give chance to community to ask query to new TC members. somtime thre is no question but still good to open the window | 01:04 |
| ianychoi[m] | Thank you for the opinons - I will announce TC campaign period now | 01:10 |
| fungi | though i do wonder what the expected outcome of that will be. unless a discussion prompts a tc elect to change their mind and decide not to be on the tc at all, the tc members will still be the same set of people with or without the campaigning period (and nothing should stop the electorate from asking them questions whether or not there's an election underway) | 01:11 |
| tonyb | I fell like having a period where people can get to know the new TC members is fine. Having said that I feel like the community is smaller now and the newly appointed TC members are well known. | 03:33 |
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