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| tojuvone | Morning, I composed demo video cut shorter. Still without sound: https://youtu.be/w5YPH5In0OQ | 04:58 |
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| dangtrinhnt | +1 nice tojuvone | 05:44 |
| tojuvone | #startmeeting Fenix | 06:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 25 06:00:11 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tojuvone. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fenix)" | 06:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fenix' | 06:00 |
| dangtrinhnt | o/ | 06:00 |
| tojuvone | Hi dangtrinhnt, anybody else around? | 06:01 |
| dangtrinhnt | hi | 06:01 |
| tojuvone | Well let's start | 06:02 |
| tojuvone | #topic OpenStack upgrade status (ONS demo) | 06:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack upgrade status (ONS demo) (Meeting topic: Fenix)" | 06:02 | |
| dangtrinhnt | okie | 06:02 |
| tojuvone | So got this now working and composed a video of it | 06:03 |
| tojuvone | #link https://youtu.be/w5YPH5In0OQ | 06:03 |
| dangtrinhnt | nice | 06:03 |
| tojuvone | So the whole 1 controller + 4 compute upgrade takes an hour | 06:04 |
| tojuvone | Migrations and DevsTack upgrade scripts takes time | 06:04 |
| dangtrinhnt | Looks like CentOS :) | 06:04 |
| tojuvone | Ubuntu Bionic on hosts and CentOS on HA VMs if I recall | 06:05 |
| dangtrinhnt | okie | 06:05 |
| tojuvone | Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS | 06:06 |
| tojuvone | That was foudn under /etc :D | 06:06 |
| tojuvone | So the short video is now ~18min | 06:06 |
| tojuvone | Also commented it has still some network downtime + surely API downtime during controller upgrade | 06:07 |
| tojuvone | And yet there is no commenting on video as haven't went it through like it would be presented in ONS | 06:07 |
| tojuvone | Meanwhile if any comment on the video if you look at it, let me know | 06:08 |
| dangtrinhnt | okie | 06:08 |
| tojuvone | Demo uses "5" different boxes | 06:09 |
| tojuvone | 1 on top left is "Doctor" = application managers and admin | 06:09 |
| tojuvone | top right is Fenix logging | 06:09 |
| tojuvone | down left is Horizon | 06:10 |
| tojuvone | and down right will apper 2 boxes running "surf" browser showing http server content runnign behind floating IPs | 06:10 |
| tojuvone | meaning the active VM on HA instances. This demonstrates the switchover when needed on those VMs | 06:11 |
| tojuvone | and as multitenant, there is 2 of these windows | 06:11 |
| tojuvone | One tenant has 2x non_ha_app and 2x ha_app with active/stdby | 06:12 |
| tojuvone | both tenants will be scaled down by one non_ha_app VM to gain empty compute host | 06:13 |
| tojuvone | ok, that is some details. Any questions at this point? | 06:13 |
| dangtrinhnt | No. Thanks. | 06:13 |
| dangtrinhnt | LGTM. | 06:14 |
| tojuvone | ok... maybe move on to next topic then | 06:14 |
| dangtrinhnt | +1 | 06:14 |
| tojuvone | #topic status | 06:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status (Meeting topic: Fenix)" | 06:14 | |
| tojuvone | ok, so this should be what is done last 2 weeks and what will happen next | 06:15 |
| tojuvone | I can start what I have been doing | 06:15 |
| tojuvone | so surely the demo, that is obvious | 06:15 |
| tojuvone | but then there was also those "ETSI meetings" last week | 06:16 |
| tojuvone | I will come to more details later, but to comment something already | 06:16 |
| tojuvone | ETSI FEAT003 is still ongoing and details of the maintenance have not been agreed | 06:17 |
| dangtrinhnt | okie, guess that there could be some changes on the interfaces? Should I expect some public documents about that? | 06:18 |
| tojuvone | So this will still make some time and before that it is better not to proceed any related changes | 06:18 |
| dangtrinhnt | +1 | 06:18 |
| tojuvone | I have to ask when and how much that can be showed to public then | 06:19 |
| tojuvone | but would think when finalized | 06:19 |
| tojuvone | just some brief about it anyhow: | 06:19 |
| tojuvone | there will be constraints of how VNF can be upgraded (servers / groups) | 06:20 |
| tojuvone | Fenix should be configured accordingly | 06:20 |
| tojuvone | maybe some of thesse will land to affinity/anti-affinity groups too | 06:20 |
| tojuvone | but that depends on how things will go | 06:21 |
| tojuvone | We have some already in different way as we have the VNFM interaction | 06:21 |
| tojuvone | and for PTG there should be coming a discussion over this | 06:22 |
| dangtrinhnt | ok | 06:23 |
| tojuvone | so that should be composed in a way that is does not use the official ETSI documents that cannot be shared.. | 06:23 |
| tojuvone | but still revealing needed details to work on changes to OpenSTack, like Nova (those server groups and live migration requirements) | 06:24 |
| tojuvone | Any questions at this time? | 06:25 |
| tojuvone | so coming 2 weeks I will have the ONS demo and I should find time to have some of those chagnes under review in Fenix | 06:25 |
| dangtrinhnt | Is that mean we may have to change the current workflow including what hyungiskyang working on with tacker? | 06:26 |
| tojuvone | csatari, will be driving the ETSI discussion | 06:26 |
| tojuvone | dangtrinhnt, a good question | 06:27 |
| tojuvone | There is still too options if our interaction cannot be used as it is | 06:28 |
| tojuvone | have that and a one with ETSI definitions fulfilled | 06:28 |
| tojuvone | It might also be complicated if there needs to be EM in VNF | 06:29 |
| tojuvone | where VNFM is more or less a proxy for information coming from there | 06:30 |
| tojuvone | Constraints for "maintenance" should be known by the VNF itself, nobody else | 06:31 |
| tojuvone | otherwise if it doesn't have that, there could be only some default/configured way on what to do | 06:32 |
| tojuvone | one is to think there is always extra capacity given to rolling maintenance | 06:33 |
| tojuvone | so application can scale up the VMs involved, so service will not suffer when those VMs need to be removed | 06:33 |
| tojuvone | as example | 06:34 |
| dangtrinhnt | +1 | 06:34 |
| tojuvone | ok, dangtrinhnt, any other comment on this, or what is your status? | 06:35 |
| dangtrinhnt | Ok, I think it's a good strategy. No update from me. | 06:36 |
| tojuvone | ok, great :) | 06:36 |
| tojuvone | so next topic then | 06:36 |
| tojuvone | #topic Summit and PTG | 06:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit and PTG (Meeting topic: Fenix)" | 06:36 | |
| tojuvone | Well, we know the status of these, but in sake of minutes, I put it here | 06:37 |
| dangtrinhnt | :) | 06:37 |
| dangtrinhnt | got my flight ticket | 06:38 |
| tojuvone | Fenix rolling OpenStack upgrade demo will be in ONS America summit in LFN booth 3rd - 5th of April | 06:39 |
| tojuvone | dangtrinhnt, great, we are so going now :) | 06:39 |
| dangtrinhnt | nice | 06:39 |
| tojuvone | Next will be Open Infrastructure summit 29th April to May | 06:40 |
| dangtrinhnt | \ | 06:40 |
| dangtrinhnt | \m/ | 06:40 |
| tojuvone | Fenix forum session will be held there 30th May at 9AM | 06:40 |
| tojuvone | Right after this will be PTG and Fenix session is scheduled on 4th May | 06:41 |
| tojuvone | Otherwise there should be also session for ETSI FEAT03 during the PTG | 06:42 |
| dangtrinhnt | wow | 06:42 |
| tojuvone | And Fenix surely might be mentioned in some other discussion, but haven't looked those | 06:42 |
| tojuvone | oh, dangtrinhnt, the forum allowed to put only one person somehow, but surely would like to do it together :) | 06:43 |
| dangtrinhnt | ah, sure, no problem | 06:44 |
| tojuvone | I mean the CFP process was so for that | 06:44 |
| tojuvone | ok, that was what is coming as events, not to go to more in details? | 06:45 |
| dangtrinhnt | nope. Thanks for the updates. | 06:45 |
| tojuvone | ok then, we would heve the AoB (any other business) left | 06:46 |
| tojuvone | #topic AoB | 06:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AoB (Meeting topic: Fenix)" | 06:46 | |
| tojuvone | Maybe something about Doctor | 06:47 |
| tojuvone | There is currently a huge problem in getting testing done there | 06:47 |
| tojuvone | So let's see if it is feasible to even continue there | 06:47 |
| dangtrinhnt | what can we do to help? | 06:47 |
| tojuvone | Meanwhile, I would then hurry to get Fenix testing working in OpenStack side | 06:48 |
| tojuvone | Well, OPNFV is loosing people fast | 06:48 |
| dangtrinhnt | I can see that | 06:48 |
| tojuvone | And installers are not working | 06:48 |
| tojuvone | so you cannot easily have environment to test. Or you should have a "huge" effort to set it | 06:49 |
| dangtrinhnt | Could we do some roll-call for more contributors at the Summit / ONS | 06:49 |
| dangtrinhnt | ? | 06:49 |
| tojuvone | do the work that should be done by installer | 06:49 |
| tojuvone | There is OPNFV meetup just befefore ONS | 06:50 |
| tojuvone | So I will surely rise my concern there | 06:50 |
| tojuvone | But stil las working currently to drive Fenix, it is double effort to keep Doctor just for that | 06:51 |
| dangtrinhnt | what exactly testing environment that you need for Doctor? Could it be solve by providing some resources? | 06:51 |
| tojuvone | Problem is more like the installers do not work | 06:52 |
| tojuvone | so somebody should work on that | 06:52 |
| tojuvone | but also, yes | 06:52 |
| tojuvone | As far as Apex worked, I was able to test fault management and maintenance in Nokia POD | 06:53 |
| tojuvone | that was kind of enough | 06:53 |
| tojuvone | but fault management only for sample implementation, not congress | 06:53 |
| dangtrinhnt | Do you have the bug report? | 06:54 |
| tojuvone | that is know to be broken currently | 06:54 |
| tojuvone | I do not have a bug report to Apex open currently | 06:55 |
| tojuvone | DWG had one that is fixed now, but do not know if that fixed her virtual pod or not | 06:55 |
| tojuvone | for me it was not enough with beremetal pod | 06:55 |
| tojuvone | so yes, maybe should rise one with logs from the baremetal pod as fexes seems not to be enough for that | 06:56 |
| tojuvone | Still haven't heard anybody will be continuing the Apex after this release | 06:57 |
| dangtrinhnt | :o | 06:57 |
| tojuvone | so, that is how deep things are | 06:57 |
| dangtrinhnt | ok, got it. | 06:57 |
| tojuvone | still, would be nice to have aworking release for Doctor | 06:58 |
| tojuvone | no way to test the Fenix support and have it in release | 06:58 |
| tojuvone | one minute left | 06:59 |
| tojuvone | Any last words? | 06:59 |
| dangtrinhnt | No. Thanks. | 06:59 |
| tojuvone | ok, thanks for joining :) | 07:00 |
| tojuvone | #stopmeeting | 07:00 |
| dangtrinhnt | should be endmeeting I guess :) | 07:00 |
| tojuvone | :D | 07:00 |
| tojuvone | #endmeeting | 07:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 25 07:00:53 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fenix/2019/fenix.2019-03-25-06.00.html | 07:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fenix/2019/fenix.2019-03-25-06.00.txt | 07:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fenix/2019/fenix.2019-03-25-06.00.log.html | 07:00 |
| tojuvone | oh yes, that works better | 07:01 |
| dangtrinhnt | :D | 07:01 |
| dangtrinhnt | one more thing that you may already know, I will help maintain the Telemetry projects this coming cycle. | 07:04 |
| dangtrinhnt | Will need to clean up the mess and get the project back to its hay day hopefully :) | 07:05 |
| tojuvone | dangtrinhnt, +1 | 07:32 |
| tojuvone | dangtrinhnt, great | 07:32 |
| tojuvone | dangtrinhnt, I need to fix Doctor meeting time again because the summer time changing the coming weekend | 09:57 |
| tojuvone | so it needs to be 8AM or 9AM UTC (that would be next time 11AM or 12AM EET) | 09:58 |
| tojuvone | Any preference? | 09:58 |
| tojuvone | oh and 10AM work also | 10:10 |
| tojuvone | UTC | 10:11 |
| hyunsikyang | Hi all. I couldn't attend this meeting. I have a question | 10:54 |
| tojuvone | Hi, I have just Doctor meeting starting | 10:56 |
| hyunsikyang | Is it better to wait to wait to fix the blueprints until we have discussion? | 10:57 |
| hyunsikyang | Ah ok. I didn't see your message talk to later. I am sorry I couldn't attend a meeting today. | 11:08 |
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| tojuvone | hyunsikyang, Now here some time. And np. for the meeting | 16:14 |
| dangtrinhnt | tojuvone, sure. For Doctor meeting, I think 10AM UTC should work. | 23:56 |
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