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| openstackgerrit | Fausto Marzi proposed openstack/freezer: Fix bug on setup.cfg after bin removal https://review.openstack.org/242132 | 16:01 |
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| m3m0 | hey guys | 16:04 |
| m3m0 | ready | 16:04 |
| reldan | yes | 16:04 |
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| daemontool_ | howdy dudie | 16:05 |
| m3m0 | #startmeeting openstack-freezer 05-10-2015 | 16:05 |
| freezerBot | Meeting started Thu Nov 5 16:05:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is m3m0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:05 |
| freezerBot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:05 |
| freezerBot | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_freezer_05_10_2015' | 16:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 5 16:05:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is m3m0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:05 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_freezer_05_10_2015' | 16:05 |
| m3m0 | All: meetings notes available in real time at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings | 16:05 |
| m3m0 | Hello guys, let's start the meeting | 16:06 |
| m3m0 | daemontool_ you're first | 16:06 |
| daemontool_ | ok | 16:07 |
| daemontool_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242132/ this is important, master is broken | 16:07 |
| daemontool_ | afterwe removed the bin | 16:07 |
| daemontool_ | we didn't updated the setup.cfg | 16:07 |
| m3m0 | bin/freezerc? | 16:07 |
| m3m0 | or freezer/bin? | 16:07 |
| daemontool_ | the .exe | 16:07 |
| daemontool_ | yes | 16:08 |
| daemontool_ | freezer/bin | 16:08 |
| m3m0 | where are those .exe now? | 16:08 |
| daemontool_ | that neesd to go in asap | 16:08 |
| daemontool_ | there are no .exe | 16:08 |
| daemontool_ | they have been removed as per OS TC request in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239668/ | 16:08 |
| m3m0 | +2 | 16:08 |
| daemontool_ | so m3m0 probably you need to review the documentation | 16:09 |
| daemontool_ | and improve the steps on how to use freezer on windows | 16:09 |
| daemontool_ | installing the deps/etc | 16:09 |
| m3m0 | yes, but those .exe came from cygwin | 16:09 |
| daemontool_ | ok so we have to add as a deps cygwin in the doc | 16:09 |
| m3m0 | should we put in the documentation that you need to install cygwin and extract from there? | 16:10 |
| daemontool_ | and explain how to make that bin available | 16:10 |
| daemontool_ | yes | 16:10 |
| m3m0 | ok, on it | 16:10 |
| daemontool_ | ty | 16:10 |
| daemontool_ | next: the freezr application to the big tent here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239668/ | 16:10 |
| m3m0 | wait | 16:10 |
| daemontool_ | ah ok | 16:10 |
| daemontool_ | sorry | 16:10 |
| m3m0 | can you please submit a patch | 16:10 |
| daemontool_ | where? | 16:10 |
| m3m0 | raising an error in windows | 16:10 |
| m3m0 | right now is broken | 16:11 |
| daemontool_ | ok we can do that together after the meeting | 16:11 |
| m3m0 | while we update the readme with the correct documentation? | 16:11 |
| m3m0 | yes | 16:11 |
| daemontool_ | ok | 16:11 |
| m3m0 | and we need to define all the windows steps as well | 16:11 |
| daemontool_ | yes please | 16:11 |
| m3m0 | because there is no "easy" way to deploy | 16:12 |
| daemontool_ | I understand that.... | 16:12 |
| m3m0 | I'll work on that after the uo | 16:12 |
| daemontool_ | perfect | 16:12 |
| m3m0 | ui | 16:12 |
| daemontool_ | next: big tent application, I think we are doing well after a sloppy start | 16:12 |
| m3m0 | should we start using heat to deploy freezer? (windows, linux)? | 16:12 |
| m3m0 | cool, congratulations to everyone in this one :) | 16:13 |
| daemontool_ | I don't know we need to evaluate that | 16:13 |
| m3m0 | we need to celebrate this | 16:13 |
| daemontool_ | yes after we'll be accepted we will :) | 16:13 |
| m3m0 | do we need to do something related to the big tent | 16:14 |
| m3m0 | ? | 16:14 |
| daemontool_ | so we are on track with that, basically we are doing all the changes commented from the tc | 16:14 |
| daemontool_ | not for now, we just need a bit of patience | 16:14 |
| daemontool_ | next: we need to branch our repo and release tag | 16:14 |
| m3m0 | perfect | 16:14 |
| daemontool_ | as stable/kilo | 16:14 |
| m3m0 | for freezer, api and ui? or which repos will be involved? | 16:15 |
| daemontool_ | we can do that righ after windows is fixed, the web ui client_id are in and the api related changes | 16:15 |
| daemontool_ | yes the 3 repos | 16:15 |
| daemontool_ | we need to be consistent, thanks to Jokke_ today he gave ma a crush course on release mgmt in openstack | 16:15 |
| daemontool_ | that was really helpful | 16:16 |
| daemontool_ | so there's one change in the acl file | 16:16 |
| daemontool | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242025/ | 16:16 |
| daemontool_ | after that change, web ui, windows and api we can branch stable/kilo | 16:17 |
| daemontool_ | and release a new feature version | 16:17 |
| daemontool_ | after that we should change the requirements in master to be in compliance with liberty | 16:17 |
| m3m0 | as soon as we have stable/kilo we should release a new version on pypi | 16:17 |
| daemontool_ | yes | 16:17 |
| daemontool_ | exactly that's part of the release process +1 | 16:18 |
| daemontool_ | (thumbsup) | 16:18 |
| m3m0 | perfecto | 16:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/freezer: Fix bug on setup.cfg after bin removal https://review.openstack.org/242132 | 16:18 |
| daemontool_ | I'm also creating a new project repo called openstack/python-freezerclient | 16:18 |
| daemontool_ | it will be empty at the beginning, we'll work on it after stable/kilo branching | 16:19 |
| daemontool_ | :) | 16:19 |
| daemontool_ | also we need to change the meeting time | 16:19 |
| m3m0 | to what time? | 16:19 |
| m3m0 | and what about openstack/freezer-bin | 16:19 |
| m3m0 | ? | 16:19 |
| daemontool_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241039/ | 16:20 |
| daemontool_ | m3m0, freezer-bin it will not be create most probably | 16:20 |
| m3m0 | ok, then we need to find a way to ship those binaries in windows | 16:20 |
| m3m0 | the less steps required by the user, the better | 16:21 |
| daemontool_ | for now, let's provide the information in the doc on how to have freezer working on windows, then we'll find a better solution also in line with openstack tc | 16:21 |
| daemontool_ | but now we have too much things boiling | 16:21 |
| daemontool_ | I agree, but we don't have to host that bins in openstack, we can't | 16:21 |
| m3m0 | ok, let's have an offline discussion about this | 16:21 |
| daemontool_ | ok | 16:22 |
| daemontool_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241039/ | 16:22 |
| daemontool_ | meeting needs to be moved on a differnt time and use the openstack chans dedicated for that | 16:22 |
| daemontool_ | I was thinking about 5:00 pm GMT | 16:22 |
| m3m0 | are you familiar with those channels? | 16:22 |
| daemontool_ | yes | 16:22 |
| daemontool_ | like #openstack-meetings | 16:22 |
| Jokke_ | daemontool_: & all: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch is really important to understand once we get into the stable branch model in Freezer | 16:22 |
| m3m0 | is 3pm GMT better? | 16:23 |
| daemontool_ | yes Jokke_ thanks a lot for that | 16:23 |
| daemontool_ | yes 3pm is a bit early if people is in US west coast (i.e. california, seattle) | 16:23 |
| daemontool_ | Jokke_, that is really important | 16:23 |
| daemontool_ | or we acn ask for a new room :) | 16:24 |
| m3m0 | then 5PM GTM should be ok | 16:24 |
| daemontool_ | ok | 16:25 |
| daemontool_ | it's all from me | 16:25 |
| m3m0 | ok, thanks a lot | 16:25 |
| m3m0 | reldan, you're next | 16:25 |
| reldan | Thank you, m3m0 | 16:26 |
| reldan | Fixes for cinder are merged now. But I am not sure that it will work stable. | 16:26 |
| m3m0 | why not? | 16:26 |
| reldan | Sometimes snapshot just go to error state. Sometimes during upload glance returns 500 error | 16:27 |
| daemontool_ | reldan, did you see the comments from Jokke_ about the error state? | 16:28 |
| reldan | Yes, have fixed. The comments where about image state, but I offen have problem with snapshot state | 16:28 |
| reldan | After our discussion, I have started work on config for parallel backup. I still cannot say how long will it take | 16:29 |
| m3m0 | but do you have any idea why is happening on cinder? | 16:30 |
| m3m0 | do you need help with that? | 16:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Memo Garcia proposed openstack/freezer-web-ui: Refactoring api.py https://review.openstack.org/236175 | 16:30 |
| Jokke_ | reldan: do you have any data from those 500 in glance? I'd be interested to have a look on them | 16:30 |
| reldan | Nope, It returned 500 on image-upload on the last portion of data it returns 500 | 16:32 |
| m3m0 | so parallel wont be included in stable/kilo right? | 16:32 |
| Jokke_ | reldan: next time you see that, grab the logs for me | 16:33 |
| Jokke_ | from glance | 16:33 |
| Jokke_ | I'd like to see what causes is | 16:33 |
| Jokke_ | it even | 16:33 |
| reldan | Ok, deal! But as far as I know config for parallel backup is number one priority now. Probably I should write test, but It will be very slow test. As far as I know I cannot create volume with less than 1GB size | 16:34 |
| reldan | m3m0: I’m working on parallel bakup now. | 16:34 |
| m3m0 | ok, do you know who can help you with the tests? | 16:36 |
| reldan | As far as I know they are not in our priority list. My priority is config for parallel backups. | 16:36 |
| Jokke_ | 1 gig volume backup does not sound like gateable test | 16:36 |
| Jokke_ | perhaps good to have out of tree to verify for now, but I wouldn't include it ... | 16:37 |
| m3m0 | Jokke_ any alternative? | 16:37 |
| Jokke_ | m3m0: tons of mocking and unit tests | 16:38 |
| reldan | For integration tests I would prefer to have a couple of instances of freezer continiously backuping and restoring something | 16:38 |
| reldan | 1) It would be great for statistics and performance | 16:38 |
| reldan | 2) Some errors are from OS API and it can be discovered in on in 10 runs | 16:38 |
| reldan | 3) It allows us to have information about windows backuping | 16:39 |
| Jokke_ | at least have a chat with infra before introducing anything like that ... they might just be nice and kill all freezer testing if you enable something like that out of bushes | 16:39 |
| m3m0 | where would you like to have this running? | 16:39 |
| reldan | 4) It will allow us test freezer on real data that may cause memery overflow or something like that | 16:39 |
| reldan | In our lab, I know that we have a lot of machines but they are still useless to us | 16:40 |
| m3m0 | I agree with your points, and lets make sure we share this data with the community | 16:40 |
| m3m0 | we can create a spec for performance | 16:41 |
| reldan | We just need give this task any priority | 16:42 |
| reldan | Because now I suppose we have no such task in our backlog | 16:42 |
| m3m0 | you're right, we don't have that at the moment, are you planning to work on this at the same time as the parallel backups? | 16:43 |
| m3m0 | or better, let's create a blueprint first | 16:43 |
| m3m0 | to define the architecture of the testing environment | 16:43 |
| reldan | Nope, I currently work on parallel backup. I actually even don’t have experience work with our lab | 16:43 |
| m3m0 | and from them we can have more people involved in this | 16:43 |
| reldan | Let’s create, you are right | 16:46 |
| daemontool_ | +1 | 16:46 |
| daemontool_ | brilliant conversation | 16:46 |
| m3m0 | do you anything more to say reldan? | 16:47 |
| reldan | So I will create the blueprint and going to show parallel backups config next week. It is all. Thank you m3m0 | 16:48 |
| m3m0 | thanks a lot reldan and nice job, and please don't hesitate to reach anyone if you need help | 16:48 |
| reldan | Thank you! | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Memo Garcia proposed openstack/freezer-web-ui: Refactoring api.py https://review.openstack.org/236175 | 16:50 |
| vannif | so | 16:50 |
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| daemontool_ | reldan. put it in an rst file also, in specs, soon well create a freezer-specs repo for that, and we can have use also wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Freezer | 16:51 |
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| daemontool_ | if that's ok for you | 16:51 |
| reldan | Ok! | 16:51 |
| vannif | sorry, I've been disconnected | 16:52 |
| daemontool_ | +1 here Team, power of will : ) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239668/ | 16:52 |
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| vannif | 'm working on the support for editable actions by the web ui. That means that the api will extract actions from the jobs submitted by the user and create any new action accordingly, so that they will be available for use by the web ui | 16:54 |
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| vannif | Should be ready today | 16:54 |
| vannif | I just like to have new features tested and with proper coverage | 16:55 |
| vannif | Immediately after that, I switch back to integrations gates | 16:55 |
| daemontool_ | vannif, can we create an integratino tests that check if python setup.py install fails? | 16:55 |
| m3m0__ | is the api going to change in order to support this? | 16:55 |
| daemontool_ | like what happened when we removed the bin dir? | 16:55 |
| m3m0__ | or is an internal change? | 16:55 |
| daemontool_ | sorry to interrupt | 16:55 |
| vannif | m3m0: no. simply the creation of new jobs will result in actions being created in the relative db type | 16:56 |
| m3m0__ | so, all actions will be stored in the db as a result | 16:57 |
| m3m0__ | ? | 16:57 |
| m3m0__ | and any edit of an action will result in a new action as we agreed? | 16:57 |
| vannif | yes. with valid action_id | 16:57 |
| m3m0__ | that sounds greate | 16:58 |
| m3m0__ | there is something that we need to discuss | 16:58 |
| m3m0__ | the backup_id | 16:58 |
| m3m0__ | I will set an offline meeting for that | 16:58 |
| m3m0__ | is really important in the ui | 16:58 |
| vannif | ok | 16:58 |
| m3m0__ | regarding to the integration tests, are we using tempest? | 16:59 |
| vannif | daemontool: not sure. the devstack plugin scripts install freezer components as devstack ... well .. plugins ^^ | 17:02 |
| vannif | that should fail if the setup fails | 17:02 |
| vannif | s/should/will | 17:02 |
| vannif | m3m0: the first tests will be simple, but yes I think we'll be using tempest | 17:04 |
| m3m0__ | ok, that sounds great | 17:04 |
| m3m0__ | do you have anything more to say? | 17:04 |
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| vannif | no. thank you | 17:04 |
| reldan | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/freezer/+spec/advanced-testing | 17:05 |
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| reldan | First version | 17:05 |
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| m3m0__ | thanks a lot vannif | 17:05 |
| m3m0__ | does anyone have anything more to say? | 17:05 |
| m3m0__ | thanks a lot guys | 17:07 |
| m3m0__ | #endmeeting | 17:07 |
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