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| openstackgerrit | yapeng Yang proposed openstack/freezer: backup cinder_by_glance to local https://review.openstack.org/315085 | 02:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | yapeng Yang proposed openstack/freezer: Freezer-scheduler in devstack https://review.openstack.org/313316 | 02:49 |
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| szaher | congratulations guys the DR repo is created https://github.com/openstack/freezer-dr slashme daemontool | 09:23 |
| slashme | Awesome szaher :) | 09:25 |
| yangyape_ | :) good. I have a try to use tonight. | 09:28 |
| openstackgerrit | yapeng Yang proposed openstack/freezer: backup cinder_by_glance to local https://review.openstack.org/315085 | 09:36 |
| daemontool | yeah, that's an important achievement :), well done | 09:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Saad Zaher proposed openstack/freezer-dr: Added .gitreview https://review.openstack.org/315448 | 09:37 |
| szaher | slashme reldan plz merge this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315448/ | 09:37 |
| daemontool | szaher, do you mind add that to the openstack freezer wiki? | 09:37 |
| szaher | daemontool: Ok I will do it :) | 09:38 |
| daemontool | well done szaher (thumbsup) | 09:39 |
| daemontool | slashme, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314288/ governance | 10:00 |
| daemontool | szaher, also is there any diagram we can use there? | 10:01 |
| daemontool | like the summit preso? | 10:01 |
| daemontool | thanks Pierre | 10:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Eldar Nugaev proposed openstack/freezer: Freezer metadata https://review.openstack.org/314209 | 10:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Saad Zaher proposed openstack/freezer-dr: Added .gitreview https://review.openstack.org/315448 | 10:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Eldar Nugaev proposed openstack/freezer: Fix chunk_size for tar engine https://review.openstack.org/315468 | 10:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Saad Zaher proposed openstack/freezer-dr: Added .gitreview https://review.openstack.org/315448 | 10:24 |
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| szaher | daemontool have you ever got an error like this one doc/source/api/autoindex.rst:: WARNING: document isn't included in any toctree ? | 10:42 |
| daemontool | that's a Warning | 10:46 |
| daemontool | nope | 10:46 |
| daemontool | never got that | 10:46 |
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| szaher | we are getting the same in freezer-agent repo but with no error reporting :) checking consistency... /home/saad/Desktop/dev/freezer/agent/freezer/doc/source/api/autoindex.rst:: WARNING: document isn't included in any toctree | 10:49 |
| daemontool | check the difference in tox.ini | 10:55 |
| daemontool | in the doc section | 10:55 |
| daemontool | probably there something might be different | 10:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Eldar Nugaev proposed openstack/freezer: Fix chunk_size for tar engine https://review.openstack.org/315468 | 11:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Saad Zaher proposed openstack/freezer-dr: Added .gitreview https://review.openstack.org/315448 | 11:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Saad Zaher proposed openstack/freezer-dr: Added .gitreview https://review.openstack.org/315448 | 12:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Saad Zaher proposed openstack/freezer-dr: Added .gitreview https://review.openstack.org/315448 | 12:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | yapeng Yang proposed openstack/freezer: Backup nova to local https://review.openstack.org/315547 | 13:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Saad Zaher proposed openstack/freezer-dr: Added .gitreview https://review.openstack.org/315448 | 13:11 |
| yangyapeng | ping slashme | 13:31 |
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| yangyapeng | szaher: | 13:39 |
| szaher | yangyapeng: Hi | 13:39 |
| yangyapeng | szaher: when i have a try install freezer-dr , oslo.config>=1.9.3,<1.10.0 it is needed ? | 13:40 |
| szaher | yangyapeng: the current version of freezer-dr is written for kilo release | 13:41 |
| slashme | yangyapeng: pon | 13:41 |
| slashme | pong | 13:41 |
| szaher | I need to upgrade it to mitaka and netown | 13:41 |
| szaher | oslo.config is required | 13:41 |
| yangyapeng | szaher: ohoh .I install in master | 13:41 |
| yangyapeng | szaher: OK I have a try in kilo , thankyou | 13:41 |
| szaher | you welcome :) | 13:42 |
| yangyapeng | :) | 13:42 |
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| szaher | slashme reldan https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315448/ merge again plz | 13:52 |
| szaher | reldan +A here also plz https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315018/ | 13:53 |
| reldan | done | 13:53 |
| szaher | Thanks reldan :) :D | 13:53 |
| reldan | :) | 13:53 |
| szaher | daemontool slashme can we review this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314209/ ? | 13:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/freezer-dr: Added .gitreview https://review.openstack.org/315448 | 13:57 |
| yangyapeng | meeting | 14:00 |
| daemontool | are we having the meeting _ | 14:07 |
| daemontool | ? | 14:07 |
| szaher | guys don't forget reviewing this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314209/ | 15:01 |
| yangyapeng | :） | 15:01 |
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| zhangjn | :) | 15:02 |
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| zhangjn | who focus on backup of cinder(cindernative)? | 15:04 |
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| daemontool | zhangjn, that was reldan, but shortly he's going to change Company, so not sure about the new focus | 15:05 |
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| daemontool | are you interested in case? | 15:05 |
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| reldan | zhangjn, daemontool: Hi guys. I’m going to transfer my knoweldge to Saad before leaving | 15:05 |
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| daemontool | ah ok brilliant | 15:05 |
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| yangyapeng | szaher: I store some infomation use json, please review it.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315547/1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315085/3 | 15:06 |
| zhangjn | yangyapeng have some trouble in this way. | 15:06 |
| zhangjn | how to store volume metadata is a big problem? | 15:08 |
| yangyapeng | if we shoud have some store about backup cinder .etc. backup list etc. | 15:08 |
| yangyapeng | we want to manager these backup ,Rather than though cinder backuplist | 15:10 |
| yangyapeng | but where store metadata in ,it is a prolblem . | 15:11 |
| zhangjn | I am very interested about cindernative backup. | 15:11 |
| zhangjn | :) | 15:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/freezer: Clean up README https://review.openstack.org/315250 | 15:34 |
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| jmarianu | Hello Gentlemen, | 15:59 |
| jmarianu | I realize that currently I have no credibility in this group but I hope to prove myself. | 15:59 |
| jmarianu | In my present role I serve as an SME for backup and restoration (BRS) technologies at at&t. | 15:59 |
| jmarianu | The work is considered Applied Research and encompasses the standard related to the Backup Services Catalog for open systems. | 15:59 |
| jmarianu | MY responsibility is to understand the BRS present service needs and ensure that models exist to deliver those services. | 15:59 |
| jmarianu | An example of a model would be the hardware, software, and processes required to deliver a particular RPO/RTO for a particular volume of data. | 15:59 |
| jmarianu | I hope to contribute to the effort you have undertaken. As far as my technical skillset, it is deep and covers all facets of availability and data protection. | 15:59 |
| jmarianu | Please consider allowing me to join your team and participate in future conferences. | 15:59 |
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| slashme | Hi jmarianu | 16:20 |
| slashme | Every contribution is most welcomed and we will be very happy to work with you :) | 16:21 |
| slashme | Don't hesitate to ask questions in this channel if you need help or informations. | 16:22 |
| slashme | Right now the best source of information are the Readme's but m3mo is working on refactoring our docs and putting them on the wiki | 16:25 |
| slashme | https://github.com/openstack/freezer/blob/master/README.rst | 16:25 |
| slashme | https://github.com/openstack/freezer-api/blob/master/README.rst | 16:25 |
| slashme | https://github.com/openstack/freezer-web-i/blob/master/README.rst | 16:25 |
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| daemontool | jmarianu, hi, you are most welcome :) | 16:53 |
| ddieterly | omg, the freezer readme looks awesome now | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/freezer: Use tempest credentials rather than hardcoded values https://review.openstack.org/313622 | 16:54 |
| daemontool | ddieterly, that's a trendy README, :) | 16:54 |
| ddieterly | +1 | 16:54 |
| daemontool | can we do the same on the other repos too? also the Wiki! | 16:55 |
| daemontool | :D | 16:55 |
| ddieterly | yea, we need to add that awesome logo to the api readme | 16:56 |
| daemontool | specs, web, dr :) | 16:56 |
| daemontool | jmarianu, we have a weekly meeting every Thursday at 16:00 UTC | 16:57 |
| daemontool | jmarianu, just FYI ddieterly is probably on a similar TZ as yours | 16:58 |
| jmarianu | Would it be possible to speak on the phone or on hangouts | 16:59 |
| jmarianu | I am writing up a set of recommendations to at&t management about how we should protect the openstack environment | 16:59 |
| jmarianu | and what tools are availabl and what the gaps are | 16:59 |
| daemontool | jmarianu, so slashme is the current PTL | 17:01 |
| daemontool | it is important to check that with him | 17:01 |
| daemontool | but I'm totally avaialble | 17:01 |
| jmarianu | I will do that | 17:01 |
| daemontool | for anything | 17:01 |
| daemontool | we should arrange a phone&hangout call | 17:02 |
| daemontool | asap | 17:02 |
| daemontool | agreed | 17:02 |
| jmarianu | I understand. As PTL he should be the primary point of contact and communication such as this should funnel through him | 17:02 |
| daemontool | jmarianu, just couple of questions | 17:02 |
| jmarianu | Yes | 17:02 |
| daemontool | are you more interested on the DR side, baas, infra backup? | 17:02 |
| jmarianu | Yes I am | 17:03 |
| daemontool | all of them or one of them? | 17:03 |
| daemontool | are you interested more on writing specs and architectures or more to write code or both? | 17:03 |
| jmarianu | Yes they will require both file level restoration which we refer to as Operational Recovery AND image (block) level recovery for DR | 17:04 |
| daemontool | ok | 17:05 |
| jmarianu | At this time based on the availabile technology that requires backing up the data in both the guest and hypervisor | 17:05 |
| jmarianu | this is considered by many an unecessary use of limited IO | 17:05 |
| daemontool | agreed | 17:06 |
| jmarianu | There are FLR File Level Recovery libraries available but they are limited in the file systems and S they support | 17:06 |
| daemontool | would be good with slashme if we can define the requirements for each one of the streams (baas, infra, dr, block, file level, etc) that you need | 17:06 |
| daemontool | yes indeed | 17:06 |
| daemontool | I mean you slashme, me and of course anyone else that is interested | 17:07 |
| daemontool | so we can focus on defining the deliverables that you need, on a stream by stream basis | 17:07 |
| jmarianu | what do you mean "stream by stream" | 17:08 |
| daemontool | baas, infra backup, dr, file base, block based, etc | 17:08 |
| daemontool | so would be good to define together your requirements for each one of those needs | 17:09 |
| daemontool | then write blueprints and implements them | 17:09 |
| daemontool | that is basically my advise | 17:09 |
| daemontool | jmarianu, just fyi, we released a new set of tools for DR, available here: https://github.com/openstack/freezer-dr | 17:10 |
| jmarianu | Yes I like to begin with the end in mind. What iare the services the solution is delivering; what are the grdients of service, and then determine the processes and building blocks required to sustainably deliver those services | 17:11 |
| daemontool | brilliant ok | 17:11 |
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| jmarianu | Have you developed a service catalog yet | 17:12 |
| jmarianu | This is something I may be able to assist with | 17:12 |
| daemontool | that has been a recurring question during the last weeks, nope I don't think we have it yet | 17:14 |
| daemontool | but slashme for sure have a broader up to date understanding than mine | 17:14 |
| jmarianu | That is foundational | 17:14 |
| daemontool | ++ | 17:14 |
| jmarianu | Then we all have a common target | 17:15 |
| jmarianu | So I would be happy to work on that | 17:15 |
| jmarianu | I could draft something up and then we can collaboratively hash it out | 17:15 |
| daemontool | good :) | 17:15 |
| daemontool | but let's we are aligned with slashme priorities | 17:16 |
| daemontool | so we have a specs repo | 17:16 |
| daemontool | here | 17:16 |
| daemontool | https://github.com/openstack/freezer-specs | 17:17 |
| daemontool | there's some work that is being done on it | 17:17 |
| daemontool | to improve it | 17:17 |
| daemontool | it should be more likely to be completed by EOW | 17:17 |
| daemontool | that is the place | 17:17 |
| daemontool | where new proposal are reviewed | 17:17 |
| daemontool | discussed and approved | 17:17 |
| daemontool | :) | 17:17 |
| daemontool | so my advise would be to draft something up as you suggested, and commit it there | 17:18 |
| daemontool | then we have a weekly meeting and you add a topic point to the agenda | 17:18 |
| daemontool | and we shortly discuss it | 17:18 |
| daemontool | and there's the review of the content | 17:18 |
| jmarianu | Good Plan | 17:18 |
| daemontool | if it make sense is approved | 17:18 |
| daemontool | otherwise changed, then approved | 17:19 |
| daemontool | or abandoned | 17:19 |
| daemontool | that is basically the workflow | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/freezer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/315055 | 17:19 |
| daemontool | now I have to go | 17:19 |
| daemontool | but let me know anything you need and please have a conversation as soon as you can with slashme :) | 17:20 |
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