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| ativelkov | sigmavirus24: do you have time to speak about the semver stuff now? | 00:26 |
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| annashen | all, can you please take a look at this bug? thanks for your input | 00:54 |
| annashen | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1415691 | 00:54 |
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| sigmavirus24 | ativelkov: just got back from dinner | 01:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | also I should probably re-review your spec before we talk so how does tomorrow sound? | 01:07 |
| ativelkov | sigmavirus24: yes, sure | 01:08 |
| ativelkov | However I now think about abandoning the spec and going with the existing semantic_version library, by just adding some utility to convert the version to DB-compatible values | 01:09 |
| ativelkov | probably that is really better then reinventing the wheel | 01:09 |
| kragniz | ativelkov: ++ | 01:12 |
| kragniz | the less code we have, the better! | 01:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yvonne Stachowski proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Fixed CLI help for bash-completion https://review.openstack.org/151065 | 01:15 |
| ativelkov | Yup. So, let's revisit this tomorrow. | 01:15 |
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| ativelkov | good night :) | 01:16 |
| kragniz | ativelkov: you too! | 01:16 |
| sigmavirus24 | good night y'all | 01:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/glance: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/146765 | 06:22 |
| openstackgerrit | hzrandd proposed openstack/glance: Allow users to configure blacklist of URI schemes https://review.openstack.org/150736 | 06:25 |
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| flaper87 | zhiyan https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85211/ again, pls :) | 08:29 |
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| flaper87 | zhiyan: and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150416/ :) | 08:58 |
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| flwang | nikhil_k: ping | 12:09 |
| flwang | nikhil_k: could you pls revisit this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80178/ ? | 12:09 |
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| sigmavirus24 | o/ meeting in 4 minutes | 13:56 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: you're chairing, right? | 13:57 |
| sigmavirus24 | yep | 13:57 |
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| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: zhiyan #openstack-meeting-4 if you're available | 14:02 |
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| sigmavirus24 | ativelkov: I have a database structure for your semver spec that I think will work. The (major, minor, patch) sets each sacrifice 2 bits a piece and we can accommodate more accurate/complex pre-release versions | 15:27 |
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| kragniz | sigmavirus24: how are you storing the pre-release versions? | 15:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Kamil Rykowski proposed openstack/glance: Notifications for metadefinition resources https://review.openstack.org/148546 | 15:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: so my thought is this: you probably don't need more than 5 bits for the pre-release version | 15:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | and for the release type there are 4 types: a, b, rc, final | 15:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | so 00, 01, 10, 11 | 15:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | If we split 62 4 ways we still have half a bit unused | 15:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | so we could do (major 15, minor 15, patch 16, release type version 15) | 15:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | but I have to wonder how many pre-release versions there will actually be | 15:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | so 19, 19, 19, 2, 5 seems acceptable to me | 15:33 |
| kragniz | sounds neato | 15:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | yeah working backwards from known facts as constraints helps | 15:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | really I don't care if we assign 15 bits to the release type version, I just wonder if that's wasteful | 15:34 |
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| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: kragniz fwiw, dhellmann just tagged oslo.middleware 0.4.0 with the healthcheck middleware in it | 16:50 |
| kragniz | \o/ | 16:50 |
| flaper87 | sigmavirus24: are you stalking dhellmann ? | 16:52 |
| * flaper87 read the email | 16:52 | |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: no. dhellmann pinged me in IRC to let me know | 16:52 |
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| flaper87 | sigmavirus24: yeaaaaaaaaaaah right | 16:56 |
| flaper87 | sigmavirus24: i know you >.> | 16:56 |
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| kragniz | that's what they all say, sigmavirus24 | 16:58 |
| sigmavirus24 | Don't make me get the logs | 16:59 |
| ativelkov | sigmavirus24: so, you are actually suggesting to have a subset of the actual semver, with limited set of available values for pre-release tag | 16:59 |
| sigmavirus24 | so I think what is most commonly used is the best to support, and if we're limiting ourselves to unsigned longs, perhaps it's best to limit to the most often used subset of semver | 17:00 |
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| ativelkov | In my proposal I wanted to store only the combination of minor-major-patch as a long, and the prerelease label as a string. And do the comparison based on the combination of these fields | 17:05 |
| ativelkov | because - according to the spec - pre-release labels are compared as alphanumeric values | 17:06 |
| ativelkov | i.e. "alpha" < "beta" because 'a' < 'b', and any others may be compared the same way, e.g. 'bar' < 'foo' | 17:07 |
| ativelkov | The only difference between simple string comparisons and the complete semver is that in semver 'alpha.5.blah' < 'alpha.10.foo', but if we compare string, it is the opposite | 17:11 |
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| sigmavirus24 | ativelkov: so a few things, if we use a proper representation of the version it will handle properly comparing the entire version string but that will not happen in the database | 17:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | I haven't looked at the libraries in depth yet, but as for storing these in the database so that we can sort on that column, we should definitely be allowing people to specify alpha.1, alpha.2 | 17:22 |
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| ativelkov | sigmavirus24: I've got an idea. We may limit the length of the numeric components of the pre-release tags to some meaningful value (say, 4 digits) and - while doing the pre-processing - add leading zeros. | 17:49 |
| ativelkov | so, alpha.1 will be stored as "alpha.0001" | 17:49 |
| ativelkov | and alpha.10 - as "alpha.0010". | 17:49 |
| ativelkov | thus "alpha.0001" < "alpha.0010" | 17:50 |
| ativelkov | so, we may leave string-based comparison for prerelease tags, thus we will not have to limit the number of components in that tags and the number of literal label only to "alpha-beta-rc" | 17:51 |
| ativelkov | meanwhile, major-minor-patch triad will remain convertable to long | 17:52 |
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| sigmavirus24 | ativelkov: I think we're talking past each other on this | 19:00 |
| ativelkov | sigmavirus24: what do you mean? | 19:03 |
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| sigmavirus24 | So let me put together some examples of what I'm thinking of, and I'll show you. I could also just be misunderstanding you and we're in complete agreement | 19:06 |
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| ativelkov | sigmavirus24: yes, sure, please do | 19:14 |
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| sigmavirus24 | ativelkov: does this help https://gist.github.com/sigmavirus24/25fc7a6ed56e410ee119 ? | 20:00 |
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| ativelkov | sigmavirus24: thanks, I now understand what you propose | 20:02 |
| ativelkov | But that's quite a small subset of actual sember | 20:02 |
| ativelkov | I will not be able to store something like "1.0.0-alpha.1.29.my-customer-name" | 20:03 |
| ativelkov | which is quite a possible version according to semver notation | 20:03 |
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| sigmavirus24 | ativelkov: agreed but your original proposal didn't allow for that either | 20:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | Specifically if you look at the Proposed Change section of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139595/1/specs/kilo/semver.rst | 20:07 |
| ativelkov | sigmavirus24: I am now trying to improve that | 20:07 |
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| ativelkov | I'll share the etherpad with the updated proposal in several minutes | 20:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | Thanks that'll help significantly | 20:07 |
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| ativelkov | sigmavirus24: something like this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LF2SY1Za6Y | 20:12 |
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| sigmavirus24 | So here's a potentially stupid question: Why can't some of this information be stored as metadata (e.g., my-customer-name)? | 20:21 |
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| ativelkov | sigmavirus24: well, it can be. But it is up to the user to decide where should it be stored | 20:31 |
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| ativelkov | I mean, the semver spec does not limit the user only to a, b and rc | 20:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | ativelkov: understood. There's also a difference between SemVer's spec and SemVer usage in reality | 20:32 |
| ativelkov | right. I believe that a reasonable use case is putting the build date into the pre-release label, so one can sort objects by this dat | 20:33 |
| ativelkov | e.g. 1.0.1-beta.1.29 | 20:33 |
| ativelkov | That is a real-life example, not a hypothetical attempt for purism | 20:34 |
| ativelkov | in this case we should probably provide a way to sort objects so 1.0.1-beta.4.29 is less then 1.0.1-beta.12.1 | 20:35 |
| ativelkov | my proposal with leading zeros should cover that | 20:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | I agree | 20:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/glance: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/146689 | 22:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed openstack/glance: Pass a real image target to the policy enforcer https://review.openstack.org/146651 | 22:59 |
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