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| dramakri | jokke_: ping.. can you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178997/ - refactoring of image-members v2 API implementation? I have made the modifications that you suggested. Thanks! | 06:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darja Shakhray proposed openstack/glance: Glance to handle exceptions from glance_store https://review.openstack.org/200000 | 12:18 |
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| deepakcs | flaper87: Is there a tradition of backend-specific glance CI for glance project ? I was thinking of adding (in near future) glusterFS CI for glance (glusterfs as a backend of glance, fuse mount for now). Thoughts ? | 12:30 |
| kragniz | deepakcs: not yet. I've been slowly working on functional testing and CI for each of the backends in glance_store | 12:32 |
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| deepakcs | kragniz: you mean u r working on CI for all backends ? | 12:33 |
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| kragniz | deepakcs: pretty much, except vmware and S3 for now | 12:34 |
| flaper87 | deepakcs: as kragniz said, we're working on fixing the CI story for glance_store now. | 12:34 |
| flaper87 | and by we I mean, kragniz has been doing an amazing job there | 12:34 |
| flaper87 | :) | 12:34 |
| kragniz | it's been on hold for a while as I've been working on other things, but I intend to finish it for liberty | 12:34 |
| deepakcs | kragniz: flaper87 cool, is there any discussion with regards to this in the list ? I could read it up for more background context | 12:34 |
| kragniz | deepakcs: I don't think there was much discussion on openstack-dev | 12:35 |
| deepakcs | kragniz: i assume its going to be using the upstream CI infra ? | 12:35 |
| kragniz | there was a summit etherpad... | 12:35 |
| kragniz | deepakcs: yes | 12:36 |
| kragniz | deepakcs: and 3rd party for vmware, sometime later | 12:36 |
| deepakcs | kragniz: flaper87 we already have a CI job for Cinder-GlusterFS, we were in fact working on extending it for glance too and then once stable, adding it to the glance project as non-voting CI (to begin with) | 12:36 |
| deepakcs | kragniz: https://github.com/stackforge/devstack-plugin-glusterfs | 12:37 |
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| deepakcs | kragniz: I was curious to know how your CI work for glusterfs will overlap with that ? | 12:38 |
| kragniz | deepakcs: ah, so that's bringing devstack up and running tempest? | 12:38 |
| deepakcs | kragniz: yes, i am only exposed to the CI in the way cinder does it | 12:39 |
| deepakcs | :) | 12:39 |
| deepakcs | kragniz: how is urs different ? | 12:39 |
| kragniz | deepakcs: so the functional testing we're working on is for the glance_store library | 12:39 |
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| deepakcs | kragniz: ah so glusterfs would fit in as the filesystem store, so u only test using the filesystem store APIs. You don't configure and/or need glusterfs specifically, do u ? | 12:40 |
| kragniz | so making a test suite that uses the glance_store api with each of the backends, and testing that | 12:41 |
| kragniz | deepakcs: yup | 12:41 |
| deepakcs | kragniz: so whats the default backend for filesystem store ? | 12:41 |
| kragniz | deepakcs: any filesystem | 12:42 |
| deepakcs | kragniz: for ur func tests what would u use as the default ? ( Or r u expecting the user to configure any FS and then kick off the func tests?) | 12:42 |
| kragniz | whatever is on infra's nodes | 12:43 |
| kragniz | (probably ext4?) | 12:43 |
| deepakcs | kragniz: I was hoping that it would be valuable to have a CI job that uses glusterfs as the backend for FS glance_store (like how we have ceph CI job already) | 12:43 |
| deepakcs | kragniz: valuable for the project as well as for glusterfs community | 12:44 |
| deepakcs | kragniz: flaper87 is there a plan in glance project to have a backend-specific CI job (like how cinder project has ?) | 12:45 |
| deepakcs | nikhil_k: ^^ | 12:45 |
| kragniz | deepakcs: I think it would probably be valuable | 12:46 |
| flaper87 | deepakcs: last time we talked about that, we mentioned having a CI per backend | 12:47 |
| deepakcs | flaper87: last time u spoke with me u mean ? | 12:47 |
| kragniz | I'd like to sort out what we're doing CI-wise with the regular backends, first | 12:47 |
| flaper87 | deepakcs: no no, we as in glance community | 12:47 |
| deepakcs | flaper87: ok :) | 12:47 |
| kragniz | (probably should spec it up to make sure we're all on the same page) | 12:47 |
| flaper87 | deepakcs: that said, I don't think glance_store would benefit from a glusterfs CI | 12:47 |
| flaper87 | we don't even have a glusterfs store | 12:48 |
| flaper87 | and that would be confusing | 12:48 |
| flaper87 | glance_store does not maintain glusterfs | 12:48 |
| deepakcs | kragniz: define `regular backends` | 12:48 |
| flaper87 | deepakcs: the ones in the tree | 12:48 |
| kragniz | deepakcs: backends we have actual drivers for | 12:48 |
| deepakcs | flaper87: glance may not benefit as much as glusterfs might.. right now plan is to use fuse mount, but once (in the longer term) libgfapi testing is done, we can enable libgfapi based access to glusterfs too | 12:49 |
| kragniz | deepakcs: glusterfs would be the filesystem driver configured in a particuklar way | 12:49 |
| flaper87 | deepakcs: sure, as soon as the libgfapi driver is added then we can talk about adding a CI | 12:49 |
| deepakcs | flaper87: i don't think glusterfs needs a specific backend driver for glance_store, it should work behind the filesystem driver | 12:51 |
| deepakcs | flaper87: Can u pls clarify why u r not so keen on a fuse-mount based glsuterfs backend for glance_store, not clear to me at all | 12:51 |
| deepakcs | flaper87: just saying 'it won't benefit' doesn't convince me | 12:51 |
| flaper87 | deepakcs: that's exactly my point. I don't think glance_store would benefit from that. Adding that CI would just add more jobs to the pipeline that we don't really need. not to mention we'll have to maintain those jobs and if something goes wrong, it'll block the gate | 12:52 |
| flaper87 | deepakcs: I'm not keen on having a CI for that, I'm ok with people using whatever remote filesystem they want in their deployments | 12:52 |
| deepakcs | flaper87: 1) glusterfs community will benefit 2) it would help testify glusterfs as a unified backend for openstack storage (once nova part is also done) | 12:52 |
| deepakcs | flaper87: ^^ there u go , there are benefits ! | 12:53 |
| flaper87 | as far as glance_store goes, it doesn't support glusterfs | 12:53 |
| flaper87 | deepakcs: I didn't say there weren't benefits, I said there are no benefits from a glance_sotre pov | 12:53 |
| flaper87 | glance_store* | 12:53 |
| deepakcs | flaper87: i thought the FS store just needs a mount (it doesn't mount glusterfs) so i don't udnerstand when u say glance_store doesn't support glusterfs, explain pls | 12:54 |
| deepakcs | flaper87: IOW what is needed to be done for glance_store to support glusterfs ? | 12:55 |
| flaper87 | deepakcs: you're being extremely picky with my words and that's frustrating. I said, we don't support glance_store because we don't have a driver for it. We do support the FS driver and that's what we're testing on | 12:55 |
| flaper87 | if we add a gate job for glusterfs, then we should add one for nfs, cephfs, whatever_mountable_thing_fs | 12:55 |
| deepakcs | flaper87: regret ur frustration, but i guess this happens when there is lack of clarity | 12:57 |
| deepakcs | flaper87: just need more patience | 12:57 |
| deepakcs | flaper87: and being picky is good, bcos that provide clarity on what exactly is the point one is responding to. Otherwise it causes confusion (like how yours 'we' caused confusion above) - FYI | 13:00 |
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| deepakcs | flaper87: lastly, I wanted u to know that I am not a regular glance/glance_store user/developer. My goal of asking Qs on CI was to improve glance testing with other popular backends and the backends themselves wanting to to be able to testify against glance_store. We can always have a non-voting CI, maintaining is CI owners job, so not sure why the worry. So if you are impatient, feel free to ignore and allow others with better | 13:07 |
| deepakcs | patience level to help | 13:07 |
| deepakcs | kragniz: thanks for ur answers, ttyl | 13:08 |
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| nikhil_k | Courtesy Glance Drivers' meeting reminder: nikhil_k, flaper87, sigmavirus24, rosmaita | 13:55 |
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| jokke_ | flaper87: if glance store tests are in benefit og gluster, I see no problem for them to pull glance_store and it's tests and run those in gluster gate ;P | 13:55 |
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| rosmaita | nikhil_k: i did talk with some doc folks about glance and searchlight, i need to communicate my findings | 14:33 |
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| nikhil_k | rosmaita: awesome! | 14:40 |
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| lkarm | hi, i am having some issues with images getting stuck in deleted state. there was recently an outage on my system and some images got deleted during that outage but not fully. the status = deleted, but on image show deleted = false | 15:23 |
| lkarm | anyone know how to fix that? | 15:23 |
| lkarm | would glance-cache-cleaner clear that up? | 15:24 |
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| mriedem | hi this is a new gate blocker for grenade https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1476770 | 18:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476770 in Glance "_translate_from_glance fails with "AttributeError: id" in grenade" [High,Confirmed] | 18:23 |
| mriedem | could use some eyes | 18:23 |
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| mriedem | we have a cap proposed to urllib3 in stable/kilo and a grenade test patch using that to see if urllib3 1.11 is the issue | 18:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | mriedem: that isn't urllib3 | 18:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | A) we're using requests from pip which doesn't directly pull in urllib3 because requests vendors urllib3 (see long flamewar on the ML from last year) | 18:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | B) neither glanceclient or oslo-incubator apiclient use urllib3 directly | 18:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | oslo.vmware does, but I think that's the only thing I'm aware of that does use urllib3 instead of requests | 18:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | C) urllib3 isn't anywhere in that trace | 18:25 |
| mriedem | yeah so i wasn't sure about requests using it's own forked urllib3 or not, | 18:25 |
| mriedem | the reason we're picking on urllib3 is the logstash time correlation with the release of urllib3 1.11 | 18:26 |
| mriedem | so open to other ideas | 18:26 |
| mriedem | this definitely looks like an external library release | 18:26 |
| mriedem | glanceclient 0.17.2 was last week | 18:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | Not really. I don't see any third party code in the traceback | 18:26 |
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| kragniz | I had a look through commits in the glance repos and didn't see anything likely | 18:26 |
| mriedem | there aren't any recent changes to grenade | 18:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | So something broke in glanceclient because self.id isn't defined on something that oslo-incubator's apiclient expects | 18:27 |
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| kragniz | sigmavirus24: I don't see any changes that would cause that to break, though | 18:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: that's what I'm looking for right now, it doesn't make sense for urllib3 to be causing an attribute error with glanceclient | 18:29 |
| kragniz | I think it's something external to glanceclient, though. Otherwise it should have broken at the last release | 18:30 |
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| mriedem | fwiw these are the latest external lib releases http://paste.openstack.org/show/396526/ | 18:31 |
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| mriedem | and this is what we're correlating those to http://goo.gl/yopJ9u | 18:31 |
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| mriedem | so, urllib3 1.11 is in here http://logs.openstack.org/28/204128/2/check/gate-grenade-dsvm/80607dc/logs/pip-freeze.txt.gz | 18:34 |
| mriedem | could there be a thing where urllib3 1.11 is overwriting what requests uses? | 18:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | mriedem: unless we're using system packages (apt-get install requests ; pip install urllib3) no | 18:35 |
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| sigmavirus24 | I'm all for being wrong, but I'm failing to see how urllib3 would be causing this beyond a correlation in time (which wouldn't imply causation) | 18:37 |
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| sigmavirus24 | What about backports around images in Nova | 18:39 |
| mriedem | sigmavirus24: that's exactly what's happening | 18:39 |
| mriedem | python-requests is apt-get installed (it's in the image) | 18:39 |
| mriedem | ii python-requests 2.2.1-1ubuntu0.3 all elegant and simple HTTP library for Python, built for human beings | 18:39 |
| kragniz | ah, and the debian packages strip out the vendoring, right? | 18:40 |
| mriedem | urllib3 is pip installed via oslo.vmware dependency: | 18:40 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/28/204128/2/check/gate-grenade-dsvm/80607dc/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2015-07-21_16_56_35_728 | 18:40 |
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| mriedem | mtreinish: ^ confirmed | 18:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | kragniz: it does | 18:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | A) it seems wrong that we're using Ubuntu requests. infra had specifically worked to bypass that in the past | 18:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | It causes LOTS of problems | 18:42 |
| sigmavirus24 | B) I still don't understand how this is causing an attribute to be missing in glanceclient but that's a different problem | 18:42 |
| mriedem | yeah, so this should confirm the theory that urllib3 1.11 is being used rather than what's in requests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204194/ | 18:43 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 18:43 |
| mriedem | i'm watching that in zuul | 18:43 |
| dims_ | mriedem: requests>=2.5.2 is in python-glanceclient requirements | 18:44 |
| mriedem | dims_: yes i know | 18:44 |
| mriedem | the logs above show all the versions | 18:44 |
| dims_ | mriedem: ah i see requests==2.2.1 per pip-freeze | 18:44 |
| sigmavirus24 | Yeah | 18:45 |
| mriedem | yes glanceclient -> requests, which is provided by apt-get. urllib3 is pulled in via pip install of oslo.vmware | 18:45 |
| dims_ | mriedem: sorry just catching up as i saw openstack/common in there | 18:45 |
| sigmavirus24 | urllib3 should be on the system already as a dep of the python-requests package from ubuntu | 18:45 |
| sigmavirus24 | so we're upgrading over that but not requests itself | 18:46 |
| mriedem | and it's uncapped in oslo.vmware https://github.com/openstack/oslo.vmware/blob/0.11.1/requirements.txt#L28 | 18:46 |
| jokke_ | why in earth we pull requests from apt ... | 18:46 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: we probably don't even overwrite the urllib but the pip pulled one just happens to be first in pypath :( | 18:46 |
| mriedem | also, why is oslo.vmware pulling in both urllib3 and requests? | 18:47 |
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| sigmavirus24 | mriedem: no comment | 18:48 |
| jokke_ | mriedem: so pull requests from pip and if the urllib is the issue we should not fail anymore | 18:48 |
| dims_ | mriedem: "from urllib3 import connection as httplib" | 18:48 |
| mriedem | dims_: can whatever that is used for be done with requests? | 18:48 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: I think ubuntu and debian pull massive amounts of ... tomfoolery .. with python path to make system packages (/usr/lib/python{version}/dist-packages) more important than pip installed ones (/usr/local/lib/python{version}/dist-packages) | 18:49 |
| dims_ | mriedem: this is happening on the "old" side of grenade right? | 18:49 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: even bigger reason not to pull the system packages then ;) | 18:49 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: this is also why os-ansible-deployment builds wheels and uses those to deploy openstack | 18:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | we had a terrible time using system packages versus wheels (which are faster) and a wheel index to use | 18:51 |
| jokke_ | we should start vendorizing all our dependencies ... no more 3rd party release issues | 18:51 |
| sigmavirus24 | we build the wheel index into the deployment so future nodes have the same versions across all of them | 18:51 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: funny you say that. dtroyer would love that for the clients | 18:51 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: sounds gr8 | 18:51 |
| mriedem | dims_: yes | 18:51 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: it will work fine until we upgrade kilo to liberty | 18:51 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: in place upgrades are going to be incredibly difficult to do without an epoch in the version string for us | 18:52 |
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| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: naah .... it's one special case ... bit of voodoo and it'll be fine :D | 18:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | lol | 18:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | besides, os-ansible-deployment was only added to the big tent. by that logic no one must use it | 18:54 |
| sigmavirus24 | I have a work around in my head for this but it's awful so | 18:54 |
| jokke_ | well I think it's time for some dinner and then pints ... CU later o/~ | 18:56 |
| sigmavirus24 | so tl;dr, mriedem mtreinish the root cause of this is that requests and urllib3 don't work together to be useful together across multiple releases. newer versions of urllib3 will definitely break requests (usually in far more obvious ways than this) and while 2/3rds of the main developers on each project are the same, we don't do anything to make sure urllib3 1.11 works with requests 2.2 or anything like that | 18:56 |
| sigmavirus24 | both projects try their hardest to maintain backwards compat but we don't promise it'll work over version gaps like that at all since the way requests uses urllib3 is subject to change, etc. | 18:56 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: if deployers would just stick with the vendorized model that wouldn't be problem as you had time to fix those issues before the next requests release | 18:57 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: right and we have daily integration checks of latest urllib3 against latest requests | 18:58 |
| sigmavirus24 | it helps us catch any problems that might pop up in both | 18:58 |
| sigmavirus24 | and by latest I mean "HEAD of urllib3/master against HEAD of requests/master | 18:58 |
| jokke_ | so not big deal ... as said earlier, do not pull requests from apt | 18:58 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: agreed | 18:59 |
| sigmavirus24 | infra worked around this previously | 18:59 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm sad to see that regressed | 18:59 |
| jokke_ | I have feeling that person who's name I can't get into my head right now might have something to do with it | 18:59 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: voldemort? | 19:00 |
| jokke_ | might be | 19:00 |
| jokke_ | although I was more thinking of some real life person | 19:00 |
| jokke_ | but now gone ... laters | 19:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | bye jokke_ | 19:03 |
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