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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/glance: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/20490506:04
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/glance_store: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/20492006:13
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openstackgerritmakocchi proposed openstack/glance: Keeping the configuration file with convention  https://review.openstack.org/20480008:10
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openstackgerritTeruaki Ishizaki proposed openstack/glance_store: Sheepdog: improve operations for storing glance-image  https://review.openstack.org/20594208:27
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jokke_sigmavirus24_awa: yep08:30
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openstackgerritTeruaki Ishizaki proposed openstack/glance_store: Sheepdog: improve operations for storing glance-image  https://review.openstack.org/20594208:34
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openstackgerritDarja Shakhray proposed openstack/glance: Glance to handle exceptions from glance_store  https://review.openstack.org/20000011:43
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openstackgerritDarja Shakhray proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Add the ability client to create unicode properties in v2  https://review.openstack.org/20603712:24
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openstackgerritDarja Shakhray proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Add the ability client to create unicode properties in v2  https://review.openstack.org/20603712:56
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flaper87o/13:12
kragnizthe return of the flaper!13:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/glance: Keeping the configuration file with convention  https://review.openstack.org/20480013:23
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/glance: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/20439313:55
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ativelkovCourtesy artifacts-meeting reminder: nikhil, ativelkov, mfedosin, sigmavirus24, flaper87, kragniz, dshakhray14:00
mfedosin_write the same message in openstack-glance :)14:01
mfedosin_I mean meeting-3, too14:02
kragnizmfedosin_: this is openstack-glance :P14:02
ativelkovit is in meeting-414:02
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ativelkovat least the therpad says so14:02
kragnizativelkov: yeah, it was changed from -314:03
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kodokuHi, I upgrade juno to kilo but now I can't upload new image ==>  Error in store configuration. Adding images to store is disabled.14:33
kodokuI have filesystem_store_datadir = /var/lib/glance/images/14:33
kodokuSomebody can help me ?14:33
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kodokuHi, I have this issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+bug/1442664 . So I upgrade glance-client 0.17.0 to 0.17.2    But I have always trace AttributeError: 'PoolManager' object has no attribute 'connection_kw' in nova-api15:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1442664 in python-glanceclient "Since 0.16.1 client breaks nova when using https" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Stuart McLaren (stuart-mclaren)15:18
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edmondswflaper87, can you explain https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/db/sqlalchemy/migrate_repo/versions/017_quote_encrypted_swift_credentials.py#L31-32 ?15:31
edmondswthat module isn't referenced after it is imported... is it doing some init?15:32
edmondswthis is currently the only reason to have swiftclient in requirements.txt... would like to remove that requirement if possible15:32
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edmondswsee https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203242]15:33
flaper87edmondsw: it was doing it when I added that line. I added it when we pulled glance/store out of glance.15:34
flaper87edmondsw: not sure if things changed after it on the swift side15:34
flaper87IIRC, it was registering some swift options require for the tests15:35
sigmavirus24Does anyone know the story behind glance.common.auth? Why are we using that instead of keystoneclient.auth?15:35
edmondswflaper87, so it may or may not still be needed?15:35
flaper87edmondsw: correct15:37
flaper87sigmavirus24: could it be related to the "no auth" thingy ?15:37
flaper87I don't recall, honestly. Just guessing15:37
sigmavirus24flaper87: ah15:37
sigmavirus24the keystone strategy should be using keystoneclient.auth because we currently can't handle v315:38
sigmavirus24(Keystone v3015:38
sigmavirus24*v3)15:38
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openstackgerritMatthew Edmonds proposed openstack/glance: (WIP) remove store-specific requirements  https://review.openstack.org/20324215:42
sigmavirus24jokke_: ping15:43
kragnizedmondsw: I think there should be more discussion before removing swiftclient from the dependancies, since I think it's currently assumed glance will work with swift as the default store out of the box15:44
edmondswkragniz, sure... let's discuss15:44
edmondswremoving it from requirements shouldn't mean it can't be the default.. just that it's not required15:45
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openstackgerritJesse J. Cook proposed openstack/glance-specs: Duplicate downloads spec  https://review.openstack.org/20612015:47
mfedosinsigmavirus24, afair there will be oslo meeting in 10 minutes. are we going to ask about oslo.rbd there?15:48
kragnizmfedosin: I was going to15:49
mfedosinkragniz, cool! thanks15:49
kragnizedmondsw: the issue is that someone installs glance, then gets a bunch of errors when they try to use it15:49
edmondswkragniz, if they didn't install the dependencies for the backend they want to use, yes... that's to be expected, not a problem15:50
edmondswthey will need to understand what the dependencies are for their choice of config15:50
edmondswthey need to understand that for non-default configs. They need to understand it for the default config as well15:51
edmondswlisting things in requirements that aren't really requirements causes someone to have to install things that they don't need15:51
edmondswan operator who is not going to use the swift backend should not have to install swiftclient15:52
kragnizthis is true, and if we were starting from scratch I'd agree with you15:53
kragnizI just don't want to make life harder for people updating to liberty for no reason15:53
edmondswkragniz, why would this be an upgrade issue? If they are upgrading, and they were using swift, they already have swift15:54
sigmavirus24mfedosin: I was goign to attend as well15:54
sigmavirus24edmondsw: except that we may require a higher version of swiftclient in liberty15:55
sigmavirus24And if we develop against features not present in the kilo swiftclient then things will break for no apparent reason15:55
sigmavirus24That's an upgrade issue15:55
edmondswtest-requirements will still list swiftclient, so anyone can still see what version of swiftclient is necessary by looking at that15:56
kragnizedmondsw: if, for example, they have a playbook to deploy glance they'll need to add an extra step to manually install python-swiftclient15:56
kragnizI'm not stongly opposed to it, mind you15:56
kragnizI just want to think about what issues we could be causing if we remove it15:56
sigmavirus24edmondsw: yes that's a really operator friendly way of doing things15:56
edmondswsigmavirus24, very little of what we do is terribly operator-friendly, unfortunately... :(15:57
edmondswI very much wish there was a better way of handling this for operators... but there isn't, today15:57
sigmavirus24edmondsw: yes so let's do more of it to be even less friendly15:57
edmondswI have to run... back later15:57
kragnizthere is http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/specs/liberty/optional-deps.html15:57
kragnizI'm not sure if it's only for libraries, though15:57
sigmavirus24kragniz: yeah I was thinking about using extras for this15:59
sigmavirus24but I'm not sure if we want extras in glance or in glance_store or in both15:59
sigmavirus24Also, I'm more concerned with how to add keystone v3 support in a way that we can possibly backport it to kilo16:00
kragnizdoesn't that sort of count as a feature?16:00
kragniz(so a no-no for backporting)16:00
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jokke_sigmavirus24: pong16:05
sigmavirus24jokke_: can you imagine a way that we could add Keystone v3 support to Glance and make it backportable to Kilo?16:07
jokke_sigmavirus24: nope16:07
jokke_sigmavirus24: there is no way we're gonna break our api demanding new auth fields just to support that16:08
sigmavirus24We don't need to "demand" new field16:08
sigmavirus24*fields16:08
sigmavirus24We can collect them if they're present and use them only if the URL is for v316:09
sigmavirus24Kind of like how we do that for v2.0 in glance/common/auth.py16:09
jokke_sigmavirus24: didn't Keystone v3 need that domain field for auth?16:09
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sigmavirus24jokke_: it renames most fields, but we're not going to require people to use v3 for auth16:10
sigmavirus24That's not how this works (that's not how any of this works)16:10
jokke_sigmavirus24: I really don't see any of these being ticked https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Appropriate_Fixes for enabling the keystone v3 auth in Kilo16:11
sigmavirus24so I can imagine a way that this would be a tiny change that could be refactored in a dependent change for liberty to use keystoneclient.auth (which is what we should have been using anyway). There is user visible benefit (people trying to federate keystones, which requires v3 and will thusly make glance completely unusable)16:13
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jokke_sigmavirus24: So it _is_ new feature & it _does_ change API these two are alone big no-no. It does have quite a risk of regression as v3 is not even closely as well field proven as v2, it does not fix a user visible bug but enables deployer to utilize new feature. Seriously it belongs to new release, not stable backports :)16:18
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sigmavirus24jokke_: that's what I thought16:24
jokke_sigmavirus24: this is example of tiny fix that has big impact https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205432/ and yet it is not trivial to drop in.16:24
sigmavirus24let me guess. oslo.utils?16:24
sigmavirus24ah, no16:25
jokke_and I think only reason to backport that in is that otherwise we will have hell of a planning to upgrade to Liberty _if_ nova gets the v2 support together16:25
jokke_you cannot trust that new Nova would be able to talk to old Glance node and that ain't great result either16:26
jokke_and even with that change it gets messy for where the old schema is cached16:26
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openstackgerritJesse J. Cook proposed openstack/glance-specs: Duplicate downloads spec  https://review.openstack.org/20612016:37
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kragnizhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2015-July/007767.html17:10
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mfedosinsigmavirus24, kragniz I had a talk with e0ne and he likes the idea of oslo.rbd17:26
kragnizmfedosin: cool17:27
kragnizmfedosin: we should probably sit down and have a look at what code can be shared between the cinder driver and the glance store17:27
mfedosinyep17:28
mfedosincurrently have no time on it, but next week is free and I can fill the etherpad with e0ne17:29
kragnizsounds good17:30
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jokke_kragniz: ++17:54
jokke_for removing CIS in Liberty17:54
mfedosinkragniz, there is code in Nova to work with rbd https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/rbd_utils.py17:58
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mfedosinso oslo.rbd is useful there too!17:58
kragnizmfedosin: at the very least, we can move that parse_url function!17:59
kragnizI think they all implement the same thing18:00
kragnizin cinder it's called _parse_location, though18:00
mfedosinand get_connection too18:00
kragnizthere's so much in common between nova and cinder18:00
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mfedosincinder was a part of Nova :) so, yes18:02
kragnizin our hearts, we're all part of nova18:02
mfedosinbut we gemmated earlier18:05
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drwahlwe have multiple clusters. we're looking for a convenient way to take images in cluster A and uploading them to cluster B18:06
drwahlany suggestions on how to accomplish this conveniently?18:07
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kragnizdrwahl: I think glance-replicator is what you're looking for18:13
kragniz(I've not needed to do this myself, though, so I could be wrong)18:13
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drwahlkragniz: i'll take a look at that.thanks!18:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/glance: Glance to handle exceptions from glance_store  https://review.openstack.org/20000018:54
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edmondswflaper87, Jenkins passed without https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/db/sqlalchemy/migrate_repo/versions/017_quote_encrypted_swift_credentials.py#L31-3220:09
edmondswso I assume that means we could take it out... yes?20:10
edmondswkragniz, that was the last technical hurdle to removing swiftclient from requirements. How do we close on the concern you raised about glance using swift by default?20:12
edmondswsigmavirus24, ^^20:12
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lifelessedmondsw: sigmavirus24: bystander comment - but extras might be appropriate.20:31
lifelessassuming I read between the lines appropriately20:31
sigmavirus24lifeless: right, but we A) don't have them and this B) breaks default behaviour20:32
sigmavirus24I would say "add extras" with a warning in documentation that we're removing swiftclient in M20:32
sigmavirus24to ease upgrade concerns20:32
edmondswsigmavirus24, I would not say that this breaks anything20:32
lifelessedmondsw: it absolutely will :)20:32
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lifelessedmondsw: someone somewhere will a_ depend on swiftclient being present and b) only have it installed due to the transitive deps20:33
lifelessI don't think its major-version-bump bad20:33
lifelessbut its 'be gentle about it' territory20:33
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edmondswlifeless, maybe... but they'll have it installed in an upgrade case because it was required in previous releases.20:37
edmondswThey will only be broken if a) glance requires a newer version in liberty and b) they don't upgrade swiftclient for liberty20:37
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edmondswb) assumes that global-requirements isn't also updated to have the Liberty-required version20:38
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edmondswif all that goes just wrong for someone... they'd quickly figure this out, right?20:39
stevelle"quickly"20:39
stevellenot so sure.20:40
sigmavirus24edmondsw: yes because everyone wants to debug this in production20:41
edmondswsigmavirus24 which is why you shouldn't do an upgrade in production until you've tried one not in production20:41
sigmavirus24edmondsw: because everyone has perfect mirrors for test of exactly every behaviour that happens in production, right?20:41
kragnizlifeless: so could we use optional dependancies for this?20:43
edmondswthis isn't some odd detail somewhere... this is basic stuff that they should have in a non-prod env20:43
kragniz(they seem to be more focused on libraries)20:43
sigmavirus24kragniz: optional depenencies are essentially setting an extra for this which would be opt-in20:43
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sigmavirus24edmondsw: if they upgrade and do very light testing and we're relying on a new feature of a more up-to-date swiftclient, then they might not catch it, no20:44
sigmavirus24The old version would stay because the upgrade isn't forcing an upgrade to a new version of the client20:44
edmondswwhy are we worried about this case more than about the same case for non-default backends?20:45
edmondswwhich would have all the issues you're bringing up... today20:45
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edmondswif this is a problem that must be solved, it must be solved for non-default backends just as much as for the default one20:46
sigmavirus24edmondsw: except that people deploying non-default backends already handle this themselves through various means20:47
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edmondswright... and those same various means can be used for people deploying with the default backend20:47
sigmavirus24That said, I'm +1 on utilizing extras, and -1 on removing swiftclient before Liberty is released20:47
sigmavirus24edmondsw: except you're fundamentally changing default behaviour by removing our handling of the swiftclient dependency for them in requirements.txt20:48
sigmavirus24You're changing *default* behaviour without a deprecation cycle20:48
edmondswi.e., you're ok with removing swiftclient from requirements, but only in M, after we do something in Liberty (what?) to warn them that this will be removed in M?20:48
kragnizedmondsw: I totally agree it should be solved, but I don't want to just leave ops out in the cold for the most common way of deploying glance20:49
edmondswI don't want to leave ops in the cold any more than you guys... I think we're just on different pages as to what leaves them in the cold and how to avoid that20:49
edmondswso... how would you guys suggest fixing this?20:50
edmondswwe don't have extras yet, right? So... wait for that? And then ops have to know to specify that, right?20:50
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kragnizmaybe we should take this to the ML20:52
kragnizothers may have had this same discussion20:52
edmondswI'm fine with that20:53
kragnizI personally think we should not change until we have a better option, but I'd like to hear what others have to say about it20:53
edmondswkragniz, in the meantime, I think we can go ahead and agree to proceed with your https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203200 just removing oslo.vmware20:54
kragnizedmondsw: also, it's the glance mid-cycle this week, so a finding cores around online might be a little harder20:56
kragnizedmondsw: good idea20:56
kragnizjokke_: mind updating your review on that? ^20:56
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openstackgerritMatthew Edmonds proposed openstack/glance: (WIP) remove python-swiftclient from requirements  https://review.openstack.org/20324221:40
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edmondsw^ that is just cleanup to remove the olso.vmware change, for which we'll use https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20320021:43
edmondswkragniz, sigmavirus24 http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/070699.html21:45
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edmondswsigmavirus24, why did you remove +1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203200 ? We should be able to go ahead and fix the oslo.vmware bug without waiting on the ML discussion21:46
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openstackgerritMatthew Edmonds proposed openstack/glance: (WIP) remove python-swiftclient from requirements  https://review.openstack.org/20324221:52
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jamielennoxkragniz: do you know what's happenign with the glance_store gate? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193422/ is still failing and i don't think it's me22:18
jamielennoxor anyone ^22:20
jamielennoxi would like to get that merged22:20
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sigmavirus24jamielennox: looks like you have two failing tempest tests there: http://logs.openstack.org/22/193422/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-ceph-src-glance_store/098988f/console.html#_2015-07-25_10_43_05_982 and http://logs.openstack.org/22/193422/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-ceph-src-glance_store/098988f/console.html#_2015-07-25_10_46_50_02722:23
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jamielennoxsigmavirus24: yep, but it looked like a general failure in glance_store: v22:24
jamielennoxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/204920/22:24
jamielennoxwas wondering if anyone else had looked22:25
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sigmavirus24that's also the ceph gate22:25
sigmavirus24probably a problem with the ceph gates22:25
sigmavirus24jamielennox: I think mriedem added that a couple weeks ago, I'm not sure it's passed since then22:26
sigmavirus24might be worth bugging them about22:26
jamielennoxsigmavirus24: bugging who?22:26
sigmavirus24mriedem22:26
jamielennoxbecause of nova or infra?22:27
sigmavirus24Because I think mriedem was the reason the ceph gate was added22:27
jamielennoxok, cool22:27
sigmavirus24And they seem to know a lot about ceph because glance_store apparently broke ceph gates previously which is why it was added to glance_store22:27
sigmavirus24But those failures are unrelated to glance_store at the moment it seems22:28
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openstackgerritJesse J. Cook proposed openstack/glance-specs: Upload retry spec  https://review.openstack.org/20625022:46
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lifelesskragniz: optional deps let you say 'for feature Y, bring in deps A,B,C,D'22:50
lifelesskragniz: so if Y is something folk 'opt in to'22:51
lifelessthen an extra makes sense22:51
lifelessif Y is something folk expect to Just Work, then it doesn't, and it should be a hard dep22:51
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jokke_lifeless: still there?23:27
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jokke_I'd like to remind that swift store as backend is not any more default than vmware or ceph, our only default store is file23:30
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