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| openstackgerrit | Wayne Okuma proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Glance metadata definition i18n support needed https://review.openstack.org/231810 | 02:56 |
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| flaper87 | bunting: I gotta be honest. Your last email confused me a bit. I'm not sure if you agree with the process or not. | 11:02 |
| flaper87 | :D | 11:03 |
| bunting | flaper87: I just think that people could end up getting stuck in a circle with there patches :o | 11:03 |
| flaper87 | bunting: well, it's our work to avoid that | 11:04 |
| flaper87 | I honestly don't understand your concern very well. Mind expanding ? | 11:04 |
| bunting | Oh it also seem I messed up and only sent it to you :p | 11:05 |
| bunting | Imagine a patch that has been ignored for a couple of months for what ever reason | 11:05 |
| bunting | If it gets marked as WIP and the dev comes along and unmarks it, what stops it from eventually just getting ignored and marked as wip again | 11:06 |
| flaper87 | bunting: nope, you sent it to the list | 11:07 |
| flaper87 | bunting: well, we are. | 11:07 |
| flaper87 | If it's unmarked the patch has to be reviewed | 11:07 |
| bunting | flaper87: Ah right, I got an email back saying it has been rejected, form the list. | 11:07 |
| flaper87 | Did you use the wrong email? | 11:08 |
| flaper87 | :D | 11:08 |
| kragniz | bunting: you probably signed up with a hp.com and sent from hpe.com | 11:08 |
| flaper87 | if the patch is not reviewed, then, well, something worse is certainly happening | 11:08 |
| bunting | kragniz: That would make sense | 11:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: CORS middleware support https://review.openstack.org/223740 | 11:09 |
| bunting | flaper87: Yeah, this is what my suggestion was trying to avoid, a patch just being marked as wip again | 11:10 |
| flaper87 | bunting: and the suggestion is to review old patches? | 11:11 |
| flaper87 | Because that's what this is trying to achieve | 11:11 |
| flaper87 | And it's the core reviewer team responsibility to make sure they don't fall off the radar again | 11:11 |
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| flaper87 | kragniz: jokke_ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228256/ that one seems quite straight forward | 11:41 |
| kragniz | aye aye | 11:43 |
| jokke_ | wupf missed +a but kragniz was faster ;) | 11:44 |
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| flaper87 | thank you both | 11:46 |
| flaper87 | kragniz: one more: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225141/ :D | 11:47 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: this one is lengthier but if you have some spare cycles, it'd be great to let it in to unblock searchlight folks: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221307/ | 11:48 |
| jokke_ | is that the one I'm afraid of? | 11:49 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: members ? | 11:49 |
| flaper87 | :D | 11:49 |
| jokke_ | yup | 11:49 |
| * jokke_ hides | 11:49 | |
| kragniz | flaper87: :D | 11:49 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: :P | 11:49 |
| jokke_ | I might need a cycle or two to get through that and understand it properly tbh | 11:51 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: np | 11:52 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: lets see if nikhil_k_ has some time for it today, he knows the domain model already and he reviewed it as well | 11:53 |
| jokke_ | Onion model | 11:53 |
| openstackgerrit | GB21 proposed openstack/glance: Add a soft delete functionality for tasks. https://review.openstack.org/209255 | 12:01 |
| bunting | flaper87: I just think it would be easy to miss a patch that got unmarked wip | 12:07 |
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| bunting | flaper87: This would be one way of making sure that they get kinda looked at | 12:07 |
| flaper87 | bunting: mmh, not sure what your proposed solution is. Is it to get the list of old patches and review them? Or just leave them there and expect cores to go back in history? | 12:08 |
| flaper87 | I have, several times, gone back in history and reviewed patches so that they'll show up in the review list of other folks | 12:09 |
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| flaper87 | This has not proven to be enough and most of my findings were patches that haven't addressed previous comments | 12:09 |
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| flaper87 | not sure what other's experience has been | 12:10 |
| bunting | I'm just saying that some patches could be reviewed, before just tagging them wip without having a look | 12:11 |
| bunting | As there could be possilbly some good patches, that just got overlooked | 12:12 |
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| flaper87 | bunting: As I mentioned in the thread, that's the goal of the dashboard. To bring these reviews to light | 12:27 |
| bunting | flaper87: Ah, so this would show patches that have been changed back? | 12:31 |
| jokke_ | bunting: yeah, gerrit has tendency to bring everything that gets change in it to the top | 12:32 |
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| bunting | jokke_: The problem arises if it is then dismissed again and falls away, thats the problem I am wondering about | 12:39 |
| jokke_ | well if the author is not interested enough to react on that, perhaps it's something that no-one else would miss either | 12:39 |
| jokke_ | after all looking the statistics from Flavio's e-mail it's pretty clear that those forgotten ones are not the huge problem | 12:41 |
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| bunting | Yeah, so would this lead to active devs constantly doing bumps? to keep it active? | 12:43 |
| jokke_ | hopefully | 12:43 |
| bunting | Yeah, not a huge problem, just something that should be thought about | 12:43 |
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| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: 'morning/'evening. thanks for pointing it out. sadly I am still putting this on hold today https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221307/ . Will finish review completely this afternoon. | 14:14 |
| nikhil_k_ | found an issue ie | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: sounds great. It'd be great to get that out of the way today if you have time! | 14:16 |
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| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: surely! btw, I saw your comment on the port forward of the specs. I will fix the tests and rebase this https://review.openstack.org/230971 on top of it in a few mins. | 14:18 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: What do you think about opening a approved sub-folder under the specs/ directory and not specific to the release cycle? | 14:18 |
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| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: That way we do not communicate it incorrectly if the features have gone or not for Liberty? | 14:19 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: this is in prep for the release notes and stuff for Liberty | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: mmh, what happens if the feature is not implemented? I think we need to re-review them for every cycle | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: ah wait, you meant temporary dir | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | ? | 14:25 |
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| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: yes, I was thinking a directory for an approved direction but not approved commitment for a cycle? | 14:26 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: that's the first option for such specs | 14:26 |
| nikhil_k_ | that way for people who did not work on it for Liberty can work on it for Mitaka by proposing a change in directory or someone else can pick it up | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: mmh, would that be like the backlog dir nova hsa? | 14:27 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: something like that | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: I guess we could do it directly in liberty, to be honest | 14:27 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: I presume we will be more strict for Glance. As these are relatively safer specs, I see no harm putting them in backlog | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | we can organize the liberty specs dir | 14:28 |
| nikhil_k_ | I see | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: what do you think about that? | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | at least it would be consistent with mitaka | 14:28 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: sure. my other alternative was to revert the approved state | 14:28 |
| nikhil_k_ | and mark them as deferred BP | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k_ | either works for me | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k_ | you seem to be inclining towards the re-organizing Liberty? | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | we have approved vs implemented, and basically make people re-submit for the next release, so the approval is release specific | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | if that helps | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | johnthetubaguy: yeah, that's what we're planning to do | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k_ | johnthetubaguy: yeah, that's what I was thinking. | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | johnthetubaguy: how do you communicate people they have to re-submit it ? | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | johnthetubaguy: or do you just assume they know that? | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k_ | I think the situation with Nova is a bit different | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k_ | people have code and spec together so it prolly is about just changing the dir | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | flaper87: there blueprints are all unapproved at spec freeze with a note telling them to resubmit, and -2 on the patches saying the same thing, and docs describing the process that way | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k_ | no? | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | johnthetubaguy: gotcha, thanks! | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | flaper87: having said that, I still generally end up chasing folks with code up that they need to do that | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | its not perfect | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | but it does give you a nice, "is this still the correct thing" filter | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | yeah, I expected chasing people being necessary | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | it kinda always is but | 14:32 |
| * flaper87 shrugs | 14:32 | |
| nikhil_k_ | with Glance I think people wait on specs to be approved prior to writing code | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs#previously-approved-specifications | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: agreed | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | that's generally the case | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | nikhil_k_: thats what we do with nova too | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | in general | 14:32 |
| nikhil_k_ | I see | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: so, are you going to re-organize liberty's specs dir? | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | that would be great | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | we can go from there | 14:33 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: sure, let me do that. | 14:33 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: wondering what should show up here then? http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/ | 14:34 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: my guess is we need to show implemented ones | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | For mitaka, we can just re-propose the specs ourselves since it's a new part of the process. There are not many but they still need to have commitment from previous authors and be re-reviewed based on the cycle priorities | 14:34 |
| nikhil_k_ | currently it shows approved | 14:34 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: sounds good | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: I guess the same as for mitaka. It'll point to a Liberty page with the approved/implemented specs | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | like: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/ | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: thanks for helping with this :) | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | ok, gotta step out for the rest of the day | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | well, the day actually ended here already so... | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:36 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: np. happy to help :) | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: thanks again! I'll review tomorrow | 14:36 |
| nikhil_k_ | sure, have a fun tokyo/japan tour :) | 14:36 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: cya tomorrow. prolly will bug you prior or after the meeting :P | 14:36 |
| nikhil_k_ | wow, it's pretty late there.. | 14:37 |
| nikhil_k_ | .. and I need to clean up the page for Liberty for release notes too! | 14:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tomoki Sekiyama proposed openstack/glance: Importing oslo.rootwrap into Glance https://review.openstack.org/186201 | 16:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darja Shakhray proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Add 'validate' option to image-list in v2 https://review.openstack.org/217113 | 17:00 |
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| azbiswas | On latest installation of devstack stable/kilo - glance image-show aaa-bbb-ccc (where aaa-bbb-ccc is a valid image id) is returning simply "id". Has anyone encountered this problem and is there a fix available? | 17:40 |
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| azbiswas | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1476770 discusses this issue but there doesn't seem to a conclusion. | 17:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476770 in OpenStack-Gate "_translate_from_glance fails with "AttributeError: id" in grenade" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 17:43 |
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| nikhil | azbiswas: looks like some versioning issue with urllib3 | 17:49 |
| nikhil | azbiswas: did you try the latest review proposed there? | 17:49 |
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| azbiswas | nikhil: This https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219276/ ? | 18:00 |
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| nikhil | azbiswas: yes? | 18:02 |
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| azbiswas | nikhil: Stacking in progress, will update you | 18:03 |
| azbiswas | nikhil: Thanks! | 18:03 |
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| nikhil | azbiswas: ah ok. yw! | 18:04 |
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| azbiswas | The patch is for Fedora systems only, I'm on ubuntu 14.04 | 18:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance-specs: Update Image Signature Verification Spec https://review.openstack.org/227369 | 18:15 |
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| azbiswas | nikhil: The problem is still present on Ubuntu. | 18:25 |
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| nikhil | azbiswas: do you have paste of the error with --debug flag on when you make a request using glanceclient ? | 19:27 |
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| azbiswas | nikhil: I don't have that at the moment, but I can find out. | 19:31 |
| nikhil | azbiswas: I found the issue related to the glanceclient described here https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1476770/comments/11 | 19:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476770 in python-glanceclient "_translate_from_glance fails with "AttributeError: id" in grenade" [Undecided,New] | 19:31 |
| nikhil | azbiswas: so no worries. I think the issue is with the installed version of urllib3 | 19:31 |
| nikhil | azbiswas: now I don't have a stable/kilo setup running atm so you will have to work with me here | 19:32 |
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| nikhil | or rather we can ping sigmavirus24 to see if he's input already | 19:32 |
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| nikhil | azbiswas: for a start, I would recommend installing requests and thus inherently urllib3 using pip if not already | 19:34 |
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| sigmavirus24 | azbiswas: nikhil there are many reasons for this but the chief one being that the system requests is used for many things and installing requests with pip doesn't always help | 19:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | you'll want to pip uninstall -y urllib3 because it's already on the system | 19:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | for some stupid reason, devstack forces it to be installed without forcing requests to be installed to a version from this year | 19:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | (or last two years because I think 2.2.1 may be from late 2013 actually) | 19:36 |
| nikhil | I see, that's quite odd | 19:37 |
| sigmavirus24 | 2.2.1 is installed via apt which also installs an equally old version of urllib3 | 19:38 |
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| sigmavirus24 | requests relies on a large number of things in urllib3 that *may* change in unexpected ways between versions but ubuntu 14.04 is based on "stable" software so they never update either | 19:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | Unfortunately pip installs the latest urllib3 which has broken something in requests that neither the urllib3 team nor the requests team is interested in fixing | 19:39 |
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| sigmavirus24 | requests doesn't maintain old versions (2.2.1) and even so that wouldn't be accepted by Ubuntu because you're not operating within their model of using outdated software or using virtualenvs | 19:39 |
| sigmavirus24 | And urllib3 has never made a guarantee to remain backwards compatible with ancient versions of requests so it isn't going to go out of its way to fix anything | 19:40 |
| azbiswas | After installing devstack, I removed glanceclient + urllib3, then reinstalled urllib3==1.7.1 and glanceclient | 19:40 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Also in talking over the gate with some people in -infra when this first reared it's ugly head, the solution of always installing requests from PyPI was rejected out of hand because some ubuntu tooling makes assumptions about non-public APIs in requests | 19:40 |
| azbiswas | That worked | 19:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | So upgrading requests breaks that in some cases and so we can't just forcibly upgrade requests without potentially breaking system tooling | 19:41 |
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| nikhil | sigmavirus24: wow, the situation is a lot more complex than expected. guess we're in a catch22 here ? | 19:43 |
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| sigmavirus24 | nikhil: my brain contains knowledge of many such travesties of software development and deployment | 19:44 |
| sigmavirus24 | Also of note, oslo.vmware is the only project I'm aware of that requires urllib3 (needlessly might I add because the code could just use requests. I provided said code on the review that added urllib3 but was ignored) | 19:44 |
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| nikhil | sigmavirus24: no kidding... hell of situation here -- Ubuntu won't upgrade, urllib3 won't support back-compat beyond a point and devstack is preferred over LTS releases ... | 19:45 |
| nikhil | sigmavirus24: I saw the comment on oslo.vmware and was kinda taken a back .. I think that team prefers to stay close to scratch.. | 19:46 |
| nikhil | (on that bug) | 19:46 |
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| nikhil | azbiswas: BTW. I also checked glanceclient backport proposals. this may be fixing your specific case https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207336/ | 19:46 |
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| nikhil | for future installs | 19:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/glance-specs: Eliminate Redundant Downloads of Uncached Images https://review.openstack.org/206120 | 19:49 |
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| rosmaita | don't ask | 19:55 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: not asking | 20:01 |
| nikhil | :) | 20:01 |
| nikhil | someone hacked away your nick or what? | 20:02 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: irssi window change fail | 20:03 |
| nikhil | aha | 20:03 |
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