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openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/glance: Python3: fix test_registry_api https://review.openstack.org/243172 | 09:33 |
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mfedosin | Jokke_: hey! is it a bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1515445 should be 200 in both cases | 10:00 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1515445 in Glance "/ and /versions have same reply with another response" [Undecided,New] | 10:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/glance: Python3: fix glance.tests.unit.v2.test_registry_client https://review.openstack.org/243389 | 10:08 |
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Jokke_ | mfedosin: looking | 10:19 |
mfedosin | Jokke_: thanks :) | 10:20 |
mfedosin | nova returns 200 when we request just / | 10:20 |
Jokke_ | mfedosin: no that's intentional | 10:20 |
Jokke_ | that changed just while ago | 10:20 |
Jokke_ | as they were both returning 300 | 10:20 |
mfedosin | I know, I merged that commit :) | 10:20 |
Jokke_ | ;) | 10:20 |
mfedosin | but should we change status to 200 for / | 10:21 |
mfedosin | to coincide with Nova | 10:22 |
johnthetubaguy | mfedosin: Jokke_: I would reach out to sdague about this stuff, I know he has the context around the service catalog changes that are planned | 10:22 |
mfedosin | johnthetubaguy: thank you! | 10:24 |
mfedosin | Jokke_: another question - seems like /versions is going to be deprecated https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/api/middleware/version_negotiation.py#L50-L52 | 10:27 |
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Jokke_ | woot? | 10:46 |
openstackgerrit | Darja Shakhray proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Fix show warnings in console from SSL https://review.openstack.org/242049 | 10:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Erno Kuvaja proposed openstack/glance: Remove todo to remove /versions https://review.openstack.org/244571 | 11:19 |
openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/glance: Add image number quota check(WIP) https://review.openstack.org/244573 | 11:22 |
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openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/glance: Add image number quota check(WIP) https://review.openstack.org/244573 | 11:48 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance: Python 3: fix test_image_members_resource https://review.openstack.org/243150 | 11:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Niall Bunting proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Clean up exceptions https://review.openstack.org/244127 | 12:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: Implement trust support for api v2 https://review.openstack.org/241986 | 12:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance: Python3: fix glance.tests.unit.v2.test_images_resource https://review.openstack.org/243381 | 12:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Hao Li proposed openstack/glance-specs: Modify some words because they should be capitalized https://review.openstack.org/244641 | 13:15 |
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tenshi | Hey flaper87 | 13:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/glance: Python3: fix a call to map() that ended up being a no-op https://review.openstack.org/244659 | 13:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Hao Li proposed openstack/glance-specs: The first letter of "postgreSQL" need to be capitalized https://review.openstack.org/244662 | 13:43 |
openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance-specs: Support keystone trusts in Glance https://review.openstack.org/229878 | 13:44 |
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flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, ivasilevskaya, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k | 13:59 |
flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting | 13:59 |
flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 13:59 |
dshakhray | o/ | 13:59 |
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Jokke_ | o/ | 14:06 |
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nikhil_k | Jokke_: hey, saw you ping from before. guess you guys got to a conclusion yesterday :) | 14:17 |
Jokke_ | nikhil_k: yup, thnx ... just wanted to have wider consensus around the topic ;) | 14:18 |
nikhil_k | Jokke_: awesome, I agree with you guys on not fixating on v1 anymore. Though, I hope this doesn't come back when as we need to support v1 for a long time and streaming is a big deal many times! | 14:19 |
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cpallares | o/ | 14:43 |
tenshi | Hey flaper87, did you had time to take a look to our email ? | 14:46 |
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Jokke_ | cpallares: \o | 15:01 |
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Jokke_ | cpallares: mind to refactor glance_store and it's tests ... gate seems to be broken ;) | 15:02 |
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rosmaita | to anyone interested: when i said meet here at 11 utc to discuss import refactor spec, i actually meant 16:00 utc | 15:04 |
rosmaita | sorry about the confusion! | 15:04 |
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cpallares | Jokke_: Haha well I updated the spec | 15:08 |
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cpallares | ^ flaper87 | 15:08 |
cpallares | Plz review it | 15:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/glance: Python3: fix test_image_data_resource https://review.openstack.org/244702 | 15:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Olena Logvinova proposed openstack/glance: [docs] Update description of Glance-Swift conf options https://review.openstack.org/242583 | 15:56 |
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rosmaita | mclaren: hi | 16:03 |
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mclaren | howdy | 16:03 |
rosmaita | gimme a sec to read your latest comments | 16:03 |
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mclaren | sure, tbh I've one main thing on my mind that isn't in the comments | 16:04 |
rosmaita | ok, shoot | 16:04 |
mclaren | ok | 16:04 |
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mclaren | so it feels to me like going into the summit people were thinking of things in a fairly legalistic defcore kind of way | 16:05 |
mclaren | but at the summit session a more pragmatic approach of ok swift works better for some folks, and you can only support swift if you want | 16:06 |
mclaren | and we'll worry about defcore'ing that in due course | 16:06 |
mclaren | is that your impression? | 16:06 |
rosmaita | pretty much, there's a 3 cycle wait before stuff gets into defcore, though it also seemed like that is occasionally disregarded | 16:07 |
mclaren | ok, so ... motivated by it seeming like quite a lot of work (which in particular could perturb our existing code base) | 16:08 |
mclaren | I'm wondering exactly for whom we're adding the 'import from glance' workflow? | 16:09 |
mclaren | today we have basically two ways: | 16:09 |
mclaren | 1. direct upload | 16:09 |
mclaren | 2. import from swift (which we need to more strongly define) | 16:09 |
mclaren | do we really need to add | 16:10 |
mclaren | 3. import from glance | 16:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/glance: Python3: fix glance.tests.unit.test_migrations https://review.openstack.org/244659 | 16:11 |
mclaren | it feels a bit like https://xkcd.com/927/ | 16:11 |
rosmaita | mclaren: that's a really good question, and i'm glad you raised it | 16:11 |
rosmaita | the only reason for 3 is to leverage tasks or more generally, some processing on the data before storing it | 16:12 |
rosmaita | but there's nothing to say that we couldn't modify 1 on the inside to leverage tasks | 16:12 |
rosmaita | s/1/(1)/ | 16:13 |
rosmaita | my feeling is that keeping import distinct from direct upload is that it would be easier to have separate teams work on each | 16:14 |
rosmaita | but | 16:14 |
rosmaita | that's really not a good argument, we can have the "task team" on the backend | 16:14 |
mclaren | I'm in part playing devil's advocate here, but it's probably worth teasing out before comitting to boatloads of code | 16:14 |
rosmaita | mclaren: +1 | 16:14 |
rosmaita | i also want to reread jay pipe's old comments about tasks | 16:14 |
rosmaita | because i really think just defining the task used for import more clearly might be fine | 16:15 |
rosmaita | and just keep it exposed | 16:15 |
rosmaita | don't know what flaper87 thinks about that, though | 16:15 |
rosmaita | flaper87: read back to 16:00 when you have a chance | 16:16 |
mclaren | My reading of the current 'real world' situation is that there are operators who are happy to just support direct upload and operators who are happy to support swift import/additional screening | 16:16 |
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rosmaita | mclaren: i agree | 16:18 |
rosmaita | i think the key thing is the interoperability desire | 16:18 |
rosmaita | i.e., better alignement of import across installations | 16:18 |
rosmaita | when they choose to use that | 16:18 |
rosmaita | i guess the problem with using only (1) and (2) is discoverability | 16:19 |
rosmaita | how would someone know which to use? | 16:19 |
rosmaita | i guess if you get a 403 from (1), you know you can't do it | 16:20 |
rosmaita | and try (2) ? | 16:20 |
mclaren | well the glance-local would be interpreted as upload it directly? | 16:20 |
rosmaita | yeah, forgot about the header | 16:20 |
rosmaita | we could have glance-direct vs. swift-local or something | 16:20 |
rosmaita | but yeah, you have solved the discovery problem! | 16:21 |
mclaren | The gap (as I think you said) is it doesn't allow operators to verify the bits. | 16:21 |
mclaren | ie verify this is really a qcow2 or whatever. | 16:22 |
mclaren | But maybe if you're "only" openstack compute that's what you get, and if that's important to you ... deploy swift | 16:22 |
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rosmaita | well, from monty's data about sites exposing glance v2, sounds like a lot of people don't care to verify the buts | 16:23 |
rosmaita | *bits | 16:23 |
rosmaita | mclaren: that sounds good to me (deploy swift to leverage the uploaded stuff) | 16:23 |
mclaren | tbh I really don't know if this will fly, but maybe we should ask what folks think? I still don't feel I know exactly what the target we're aiming for is | 16:24 |
rosmaita | ok, let me think a little more, then maybe i will put a big comment on the spec and then directly email monty and doug and the other people who commented before the summit, and ask them to comment | 16:25 |
rosmaita | was thinking i needed to directly ask monty, doug, et al., to comment anyway | 16:26 |
rosmaita | and also put something on the ML, of course | 16:26 |
mclaren | that sounds good :-) | 16:26 |
rosmaita | my previous ML request to look at the updated spec prob got lost in post-summit email | 16:26 |
mclaren | everything's more interesting when you're in Tokyo :-) | 16:27 |
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mclaren | I guess a lot of the other nit picking stuff can probably wait 'til we see what happens here | 16:28 |
rosmaita | yeah | 16:28 |
rosmaita | i won't get to this until later today, maybe tonight | 16:28 |
mclaren | ok. Do you want me to put a short comment on the spec, basically posing this question? | 16:29 |
rosmaita | that would be cool | 16:29 |
rosmaita | i think you're right that maybe we (i.e., me) have lost sight of the key goals here | 16:29 |
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rosmaita | (1) discoverability, and (2) interoperability | 16:30 |
mclaren | sure, np | 16:30 |
mclaren | ok, we can update the spec and then hand out the boxing gloves :-) | 16:31 |
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rosmaita | mclaren: sounds good! :) | 16:34 |
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flaper87 | rosmaita: I saw your ping but I missed the discussion. Anything I can help with? | 18:14 |
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rosmaita | flaper87: stuart put a comment on the spec that pretty much summarizes it | 18:15 |
flaper87 | lemme read that | 18:16 |
rosmaita | flaper87: thanks ... i will be interested in what you think | 18:17 |
flaper87 | rosmaita: is the idea to use `/file` and then have swift too ? | 18:18 |
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rosmaita | no, you got it | 18:19 |
rosmaita | stuart's idea is that as long as one of the two is supported, should satisfy defcore | 18:19 |
rosmaita | he's worried about how complex this is getting | 18:19 |
flaper87 | I understand why he's worry but we kinda knew this was going to be complex (which is not an excuse) | 18:20 |
flaper87 | that said | 18:20 |
flaper87 | I don't think that actually fits defcore because it's not discoverable | 18:20 |
flaper87 | how would that be discoverable? | 18:20 |
flaper87 | Also, would we enable `/file` to use the task engine ? | 18:20 |
rosmaita | well, if we add the header to the POST /v2/images response | 18:20 |
rosmaita | the "openstack-import-methods" or whatever i called it in the spec | 18:21 |
flaper87 | Right, so that's not really different from the proposal other than using `/file` instead of `/bikeshed` | 18:21 |
rosmaita | yes | 18:21 |
rosmaita | then for mitaka, we'd just leave POST /file the way it is | 18:21 |
flaper87 | which is exactly what I proposed at the very beginning and stuart said no | 18:21 |
rosmaita | and find out whether there's demand for task processing in the PUT /file workflow | 18:22 |
flaper87 | I still think we'd have to enable `/file` to trigger the task engine | 18:22 |
rosmaita | that's kind of up to you | 18:22 |
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flaper87 | if we have tasks running for swift and then `/file` not running the task engine, we'll be back to where we are now | 18:22 |
rosmaita | right now, it seems like except for rackspace and maybe vmware, people like the direct upload | 18:22 |
flaper87 | or better, we'd not move forward | 18:22 |
flaper87 | :D | 18:23 |
flaper87 | well, we would. That was an unfair satement | 18:23 |
rosmaita | well, the idea would be that if you want the task engine, you need to deploy swift | 18:23 |
flaper87 | but still, it'd be inconsistent | 18:23 |
rosmaita | that's true | 18:23 |
flaper87 | going to comment on the spec | 18:23 |
rosmaita | but the anti-swift is being caused by the "openstack powered compute" label | 18:23 |
flaper87 | I just synced my comments from gertty online | 18:23 |
rosmaita | ok, cool | 18:24 |
flaper87 | (not related to this, I'll comment now replying to stuart's comment) | 18:24 |
rosmaita | i will read through later, but your comment on the "outside" of the spec makes sense | 18:24 |
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krotscheck | Anyone around to help guide me through some of these tests? I'm trying to figure out where the functional start_servers gets its glance-api.conf from. | 21:31 |
hemanthm | https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/tests/functional/__init__.py#L322-L371 | 21:41 |
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pumaranikar | Hi, can someone review my specification https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242682/2 | 23:01 |
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