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| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/glance: Fix help command in cache manange and replicator https://review.openstack.org/262365 | 02:18 |
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| rosmaita | sabari: i put some comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267209/1 | 03:30 |
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| rsjethani | Hi All! kindly review https://review.openstack.org/261288 | 06:53 |
| rsjethani | Related lite-spec: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1525259 | 06:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1525259 in Glance "Add request_ids attribute to v2 schemas" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Abhishek Kekane (abhishek-kekane) | 06:54 |
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| sabari | rosmaita: Thanks, I will look at it tomorrow. | 08:08 |
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| kairat | flaper87, jokke_, any chance you can look at that backport: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266818/? | 09:45 |
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| flaper87 | kairat: I pinged jokke_ yday about it, I'll merge it now | 11:41 |
| kairat | flaper87, thanks a lot | 11:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darja Shakhray proposed openstack/glance: Added support new v2 API image filters https://review.openstack.org/248359 | 13:51 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k | 13:51 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting | 13:51 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 13:51 |
| flaper87 | meeting in 10 mins | 13:51 |
| flaper87 | ish, 8mins actually | 13:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-glanceclient: Remove openstack-common.conf https://review.openstack.org/264646 | 14:18 |
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| rosmaita | mclaren: hello | 14:52 |
| mclaren | rosmaita: I saw your reply on the spec -- thanks | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | np | 14:52 |
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| rosmaita | mclaren: it was pre-coffee, hope the tone didn't sound dismissive | 14:52 |
| mclaren | I've a follow up (surprise surprise). | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | figured you would! | 14:52 |
| mclaren | I was confused -- you seemed to suggest multiple PUTs to /stage was ok | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | yes, i did | 14:54 |
| mclaren | ok, so simultaneous PUTs of 100GB -- discuss | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | last write wins | 14:54 |
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| mclaren | how does that work in practice? | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | hmmm ... not sure | 14:56 |
| mclaren | eg, when you start to import how do you know there isn't a simultaneous write happening? | 14:56 |
| mclaren | writing over all your data | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | you don't | 14:57 |
| mclaren | do you see these simultaneous writes using the same location? Or locations which are specific to each upload? | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: thanks for the email | 14:58 |
| mclaren | flaper87: np, thanks for the reminder :-) | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: rosmaita I wonder if it'd be better discuss some of those topics in a follow-up patch | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | mclaren: same location | 14:58 |
| * flaper87 shrugs | 14:58 | |
| rosmaita | flaper87: probably a good idea | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | at least it'd be clear what the requested change on the current spec is and we can start from scratch and focus just on that request | 14:59 |
| mclaren | same location won't work I think. Lets say you have uploaded 100GB first time. Then the second one comes in and writes a single byte. How do you track the first data so you can clean it up? | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | mclaren: if they're going to the same place, won't second PUT delete the first one? | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | i mean, isn't that what you'd expect? | 15:00 |
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| mclaren | remember we have no distributed locking | 15:00 |
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| mclaren | how do they decided if they are the first or the second? | 15:00 |
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| rosmaita | well, if you are doing multiple PUTs, you takes your chances | 15:01 |
| rosmaita | (i guess) | 15:01 |
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| rosmaita | mclaren: kind of funny that you want more image states, sigmavirus24_awa wants fewer! | 15:02 |
| mclaren | rosmaita: let me be very clear: I don't want any new image states | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | mclaren: clarity noted | 15:02 |
| mclaren | my preferred solution doesn't require any | 15:03 |
| mclaren | but based on your design you may need new states | 15:04 |
| mclaren | even if it was ok to say 'your milage may vary' with regard to simultaneous uploads ... you need to ensure the server can track the data that it's received | 15:04 |
| rosmaita | mclaren: you are correct about that | 15:05 |
| mclaren | how do you see multi-part upload working (as this seems to be the reason not to have 'uploaded') | 15:06 |
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| rosmaita | i'm not sure about that | 15:07 |
| mclaren | tbh I did think about this stuff when coming up with what I thought was a reasonable approach | 15:09 |
| mclaren | so, simultaneous uploads may cause a problem on the server side? | 15:10 |
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| rosmaita | mclaren: not sure about that | 15:11 |
| rosmaita | i'm assuming multipart upload will have some kind of request header so it can be distinguished from "regular" upload | 15:11 |
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| mclaren | ok, so imaging two PUTs to stage. one for 100 GB, one for 50 GB. The first is the 100GB. It starts writing data. The second request comes in. It sees 'some' data from the first request and decides to delete it. It starts writing. We now have to requests writing to the same area. | 15:16 |
| mclaren | the 50 GB completes first. | 15:16 |
| mclaren | The 100GB one doesn't know it's been partly deleted and declares 'success' when it finishes writing. | 15:17 |
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| mclaren | == corruption | 15:17 |
| rosmaita | ok, but no dark data hanging around | 15:18 |
| mclaren | so, for the record, we're ok with corruption? | 15:18 |
| rosmaita | as long as we return the checksum in the image "message", i think so | 15:19 |
| mclaren | that's not even machine readable | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance-specs: Use a section for the server and the client https://review.openstack.org/266393 | 15:20 |
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| mclaren | and there could be a race there too in writing the message? | 15:21 |
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| rosmaita | mclaren: i will have to go back and read your counterproposal, but don't you have the same issue, just in a different place? | 15:22 |
| mclaren | image goes from queued->saving->active | 15:22 |
| mclaren | the blobs each get a uniq id so are orthogonal to one another | 15:23 |
| mclaren | there is no more overlap than in the swift case | 15:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-glanceclient: Add docker to image_schema on glance v2 cli https://review.openstack.org/252806 | 15:24 |
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| mclaren | do you get dark data if the 100GB completes first? | 15:27 |
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| rosmaita | mclaren: so on your proposal, the import call would provide a stage_id | 15:30 |
| rosmaita | ? | 15:30 |
| mclaren | yes | 15:30 |
| mclaren | (or several for multipart) | 15:31 |
| rosmaita | and what happens to the unused parts in the stage? | 15:31 |
| mclaren | rosmaita: dark data? http://paste.openstack.org/show/483898/ | 15:33 |
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| mclaren | the user has to delete them | 15:33 |
| mclaren | wait, which unused parts? | 15:33 |
| rosmaita | well, suppose i do PUT /stage_id1 and another PUT /stage_id2 ... iirc the stage_id are subresources of a particular image? | 15:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Niall Bunting proposed openstack/glance-specs: Protected property modification with service tokens https://review.openstack.org/249950 | 17:10 |
| bunting | flaper87: I think it would be alright for you to remove the -2 on this now? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249950/ | 17:12 |
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| flaper87 | bunting looking | 18:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wang Bo proposed openstack/glance: Python3: fix operations of dict keys() https://review.openstack.org/267719 | 18:19 |
| bunting | flaper87: Cheers, i changed it from M | 18:28 |
| flaper87 | bunting: noticed, removing -2 now | 18:29 |
| bunting | :) | 18:30 |
| flaper87 | bunting: done | 18:33 |
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| flaper87 | mclaren: around ? | 18:53 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: need to catch up on the import spec and some vulnerability tasks. Lemme know when you have 5mins | 18:54 |
| flaper87 | :D | 18:54 |
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| sabari | flaper87 rosmaita: The staging area for new import would be the default glance store backend, right ? | 19:58 |
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| sigmavirus24 | sabari: no? | 19:58 |
| sigmavirus24 | I hope not | 19:58 |
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| sabari | sigmavirus24: Not sure, not clear from the spec. | 19:59 |
| sabari | sigmavirus24: we want the staging area to be a shared one, because the next req to import may land on any glance-api node | 19:59 |
| sabari | so I am not sure how we are solving that. | 20:00 |
| sabari | This two step process (upload+import) means, the bits needs to be at some place available for subsequent processing | 20:02 |
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| sabari | flaper87: do you think we all should huddle and flush out implementation details on the import spec ? | 20:04 |
| sabari | I know mclaren & rosmaita have been discussing a lot :) | 20:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/glance: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/266996 | 20:31 |
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