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| mfedosin | Courtesy meeting reminder ( #openstack-meeting-alt ): nikhil_k, ativelkov, mfedosin, docaedo, dshakhray, kfox111, kairat, nikhil, sudipto | 17:29 |
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| nikhil | mfedosin: on the merge part.. I am not sure how serious you were on that question | 18:00 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: I am sharing the feedback from community as it comes and trying to be proactive | 18:00 |
| mfedosin | thanks for that | 18:01 |
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| mfedosin | I was pretty serious, because Murano needs Glare very much | 18:01 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: I am curious why the murano team has help back on +1,0,-1 on the spec? may be they can share their thoughts on the spec this/next week? | 18:02 |
| nikhil | held back* | 18:02 |
| mfedosin | and now they use v0.1 and they have to write tests and everything for technically unsupported dead code | 18:02 |
| mfedosin | it will be better if they begin testing Glare v1 | 18:02 |
| mfedosin | nikhil: they will | 18:02 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: ok, how can we get some reviews on the spec and code from them and other stakeholders? | 18:03 |
| mfedosin | nikhil: agree | 18:03 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: tbh, I really do not have any restriction to merge the Glare code .. even right now | 18:03 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: I can +2A _right_now_ :-) | 18:03 |
| mfedosin | :D | 18:03 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: but... I think we really do not want to do that... we need code that needs to succeed for 10 cycles at least ;-) | 18:04 |
| mfedosin | please keep calm and do not merge Glare code right now | 18:04 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: the right way would be to involve those who have interest in it and make sure we align out approaches | 18:04 |
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| nikhil | mfedosin: yeah, I won't :) | 18:05 |
| nikhil | I have a very strong interest in glare supporting containers (in general) | 18:05 |
| nikhil | and some of my friends want it for heat and related projects | 18:05 |
| mfedosin | np with that | 18:05 |
| nikhil | (particularly tosca and tacker) | 18:06 |
| mfedosin | I know all Heat requirements | 18:06 |
| nikhil | but I don't | 18:06 |
| nikhil | and that's why I can't review it well :) | 18:06 |
| mfedosin | and I know ppl who will implement this support | 18:06 |
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| mfedosin | actually they need dict of blobs | 18:06 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: we need to document all that (especially who, what, where) | 18:07 |
| nikhil | I got an idea | 18:07 |
| mfedosin | shoot | 18:07 |
| nikhil | how about we add sections to the use cases: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283136/5/specs/newton/glare-api.rst@242 | 18:08 |
| nikhil | that indicate how heat, murano, tacker, higgings etc are going to use it | 18:09 |
| nikhil | we can leave "future work" for those services who haven't given requirements | 18:09 |
| mfedosin | oh... it's not so easy | 18:09 |
| nikhil | why? | 18:09 |
| mfedosin | I don't know what to write there | 18:10 |
| mfedosin | how much | 18:10 |
| mfedosin | but I'll try | 18:10 |
| mfedosin | begin with Murano | 18:10 |
| nikhil | well, not all APIs will need it | 18:10 |
| nikhil | for example, let's start with the special APIs like the dict of blobs | 18:11 |
| sudipto | I have some ideas around the docker image support part... | 18:11 |
| nikhil | let's say what and how will they be used by murano and heat | 18:11 |
| nikhil | that way we will know : if other project have issues then what are those and we can fix them early | 18:11 |
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| nikhil | sudipto: yeah, that will be helpful | 18:11 |
| sudipto | but yeah yet not know how glare could support it. I am writing a etherpad on it. | 18:12 |
| mfedosin | sudipto: link :) | 18:12 |
| sudipto | mfedosin, sure, as soon as it's a bit presentable. It's more in my head than on the pad tbh :) | 18:13 |
| sudipto | however, i feel that the docker fs support needs more of a metadata management than the blob management. | 18:13 |
| mfedosin | sudipto: my biggest problem tbh | 18:13 |
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| nikhil | sudipto: oh, interesting.. we're thinking of discussion image lifecycle with metadata with the ops later this week :) | 18:14 |
| nikhil | sudipto: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-and-ops-midcycle-sync | 18:14 |
| sudipto | nikhil, great. | 18:15 |
| mfedosin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320318/8/glance/objects/test_artifact.py | 18:15 |
| mfedosin | it's not final, but that's how we use oslo.vo to describe artifact type | 18:15 |
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| nikhil | awesome | 18:18 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: do you think you will get time to create the tasks for community on glare etherpad by midcycle next week? I am trying to figure out how / when we can generate more involvement .. | 18:19 |
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| nikhil | just not sure atm. | 18:20 |
| mfedosin | "sure, as soon as it's a bit presentable. It's more in my head than on the pad tbh :)" | 18:20 |
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| mfedosin | on Wednesday it will be written | 18:21 |
| sudipto | mfedosin, lol | 18:21 |
| mfedosin | hard dependencies, schemas, sharings, db_api, tests... | 18:22 |
| * nikhil can't find the intent behind all our conversations for some reason | 18:22 | |
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| mfedosin | what intent do you need? | 18:23 |
| mfedosin | also we need client | 18:24 |
| mfedosin | at least a very small one | 18:24 |
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| nikhil | I thought we discussed the client | 18:24 |
| mfedosin | yeah | 18:24 |
| mfedosin | but I still don't get it | 18:24 |
| mfedosin | how it's come that Glare won't have own client? | 18:25 |
| nikhil | ref intent: there's more going on that I dont know. | 18:25 |
| nikhil | because glaceclient is to be deprecated | 18:25 |
| nikhil | and thats plan for other clients too | 18:26 |
| mfedosin | jfyi it's impossible to use the service without client | 18:26 |
| nikhil | lets add support to osc then | 18:26 |
| nikhil | may be thats the thing we can work on | 18:26 |
| mfedosin | if it's possible then I don't mind... | 18:26 |
| nikhil | yeah.. i mean glare is a service api | 18:27 |
| mfedosin | but can you give any link where it's said that glanceclient will be deprecated | 18:27 |
| mfedosin | because I though that osc is for cli only | 18:27 |
| nikhil | ok, so people have stopped trusting me | 18:27 |
| nikhil | great | 18:28 |
| mfedosin | OpenStackClient (aka OSC) is a command-line client for OpenStack | 18:28 |
| nikhil | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-glance/%23openstack-glance.2016-05-18.log.html | 18:28 |
| nikhil | line http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-glance/%23openstack-glance.2016-05-18.log.html#t2016-05-18T18:07:41 | 18:28 |
| nikhil | thanks god, that was the first link i clicked (otherwise it would have taken me half an hour to find stuff) | 18:29 |
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| * nikhil done for the day with that | 18:29 | |
| * mfedosin is reading | 18:30 | |
| * mfedosin is going to write a blueprint for Nova deprecation | 18:31 | |
| mfedosin | then approve it | 18:31 |
| mfedosin | and come to nova channel and ask not to contribute to Nova any more | 18:32 |
| mfedosin | because it will be deprecated sometime | 18:32 |
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| mfedosin | my lovely commit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321551/ | 18:43 |
| mfedosin | nikhil: ^ | 18:44 |
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| sabari | nikhil: got any comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325438/1 ? planning to approve it. | 21:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance: Update man pages to current version and dates https://review.openstack.org/325438 | 22:31 |
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