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| lixiaoy1 | Hi, I see several tempest tests in tempest.api.image.v1.test_images.CreateRegisterImagesTest.test_register_http_image, http://logs.openstack.org/60/317060/11/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-devstack-plugin-ceph/1f34c49/console.html#_2016-08-16_20_44_58_262300 . is it a known issue? | 02:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexander Bashmakov proposed openstack/glance: Improving help text for data access API option https://review.openstack.org/354332 | 03:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexander Bashmakov proposed openstack/glance: Improving help text for data access API option https://review.openstack.org/354332 | 03:08 |
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| shameem | Hi | 04:44 |
| shameem | How can we arrange glance image according to specific service. For example, When I am using trove service only trove-images has to be listed in glance. Anyone please help me if there is a proper solution for this. | 04:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Niall Bunting proposed openstack/glance: Make signature dependencies optional https://review.openstack.org/284941 | 10:39 |
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| shameem | Hi,Is that possible to create metadata corresponding to an image in glance? so that image only be visible for a user who use such flavor. | 11:21 |
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| nikhil | tsymanczyk: rosmaita : o/ | 15:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 15:01 |
| tsymanczyk | nikhil rosmaita : good morning and happy wednesday! regarding community images : obviously the large is_public -> visibility column changeset still has many broken unit tests - i think that entire thing has turned out to be more complex than anyone expected. but regardless - last week when we spoke, nikhil you had mentioned the plan of (at least in the | 15:01 |
| tsymanczyk | short term) focusing on getting the positive functionality in. | 15:01 |
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| tsymanczyk | nikhil rosmaita : which is a plan i'm happy to go forward with - what's been slowing me down with that is that i'm seeing in practice behaviours that don't make any sense according to my own understanding of the universe. | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | that sounds ... unpleasant | 15:02 |
| tsymanczyk | the most blatant example being 1) install master devstack, no local changes. 2) for all three is_image_visibile functions, replace them just with "return False". 3) restart glance. 4) observe that anyone can still "openstack glance image show" public images. | 15:03 |
| tsymanczyk | if my understanding of the dev workflow and glance and restarting glance and the code and etc etc etc is all correct - setting all three is_image_visible functions to just return False should make that impossible. | 15:03 |
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| tsymanczyk | but it doesn't - which has slowed down my "just write the positive functionality" progress dramatically, since i can't rely on unit tests to prove it out because of the broken, and i can' trely on local testing because it's clearly insane. | 15:04 |
| tsymanczyk | ... | 15:04 |
| tsymanczyk | ... / novel | 15:04 |
| tsymanczyk | how're you guys ? :) | 15:04 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: that doesn't sound like a fun experience.. | 15:04 |
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| nikhil | tsymanczyk: how about we start a etherpad for collaboration and see if that will work? | 15:07 |
| tsymanczyk | any plan you guys want to go forward with to try and get this into newton i'm 100% on board. i'm just having a terrible time. | 15:07 |
| rosmaita | +1 to the etherpad | 15:07 |
| nikhil | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/community-images-work-items | 15:07 |
| tsymanczyk | fantastic. | 15:07 |
| rosmaita | i am still trying to digest tsymanczyk 's report | 15:07 |
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| tsymanczyk | sorry :/ | 15:07 |
| rosmaita | i think you are right about the clearly insane part | 15:07 |
| nikhil | +1 | 15:07 |
| nikhil | (clearly insane) | 15:07 |
| tsymanczyk | i'm clearly missing something or misunderstanding something - but until that gets identified and rectified, i don't know how to make progress. | 15:07 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: feel free to update the etherpad with your devstack experience | 15:07 |
| tsymanczyk | once we're done live chatting i'm delighted to dump everything i know into the pad. | 15:08 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: no, this sort of thing is seen sometimes in the community. so I wouldn't say it's a first time observation to be very worried about. | 15:08 |
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| nikhil | tsymanczyk: good part is we've always found the right way | 15:08 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: so... | 15:09 |
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| nikhil | at this point I was thinking that may be we need to do a reality check | 15:09 |
| nikhil | accept the fact that this is more complicated than expected | 15:09 |
| nikhil | and with the client side changes deemed necessary after the API changes (due to change in sharing behavior) | 15:10 |
| tsymanczyk | unfortunately, yes. | 15:10 |
| nikhil | I think it might be in everyone's best interest to see this through for ocata-1 | 15:10 |
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| nikhil | I don't want to take undue advantage and say things on behalf of to-be ocata PTL | 15:10 |
| nikhil | but seems like we've momentum, we;ve got cores knowing what's going on | 15:11 |
| nikhil | and we | 15:11 |
| nikhil | we've a plan | 15:11 |
| nikhil | (at least I think we do) | 15:11 |
| rosmaita | well, it was also a newton priority, so everyone knows it's important for glance | 15:11 |
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| nikhil | ++ | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance_store: Improving help text for Swift store opts. https://review.openstack.org/351950 | 15:11 |
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| nikhil | instead of having to split the changes as 1) n-3 -- API changes 2) o-1 client changes (test coverage, documentation, etc.) | 15:12 |
| nikhil | a better timeline would be 1) o-1 API changes 2) o-2 client changes, tests, docs, etc. | 15:12 |
| nikhil | at least all of the things would be covered in a formal release | 15:13 |
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| nikhil | tsymanczyk: and if we can get this done 'before the summit', then we won't necessarily be burdening ocata as much | 15:13 |
| nikhil | this == API changes | 15:13 |
| nikhil | client , docs, tests will take more time for sure | 15:14 |
| tsymanczyk | agreed. even if we have to accept that this isn't getting into newton, theres' no reason to just relax. let's get it done, let's get it right, let's get it solid. | 15:14 |
| rosmaita | yes, if it's available at the summit, could get some feedback | 15:14 |
| rosmaita | also get a buzz going | 15:14 |
| nikhil | totally | 15:15 |
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| nikhil | love the buzz around such features that makes glance super awesome | 15:15 |
| nikhil | details are: we've about 6 weeks before newton is officially deemed released and ocata summit is more than 2 months away! | 15:15 |
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| nikhil | tsymanczyk: so if you wanna take baby steps to get things rock solid, I am totally cool with it. Nevertheless, I think we will need POC code (just like our current plan for code w/o tests) to ensure we know the behavior is as expected. | 15:17 |
| nikhil | what do you guys think? | 15:17 |
| nikhil | (about the code workflow plan) | 15:17 |
| rosmaita | makes sense to me | 15:18 |
| rosmaita | i'll commit to paying attention to the etherpad and seeing what i can do to help out | 15:18 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: thanks! I was hoping to keep our friday sync going, even if they are only for half and hour or so. | 15:19 |
| nikhil | half an hour* | 15:19 |
| rosmaita | ok, i need to be better about showing up for those, too | 15:20 |
| rosmaita | i ususally read the scrollback, but that's not quite the same as being there | 15:20 |
| nikhil | I am cool with moving them to wednesdays if people prefer that | 15:21 |
| tsymanczyk | great, let's go forward with that. the fact is that the changes SHOULDN'T be that dramatic for the 2nd and 3rd changesets (it's the confounding behaviours making it difficult, which i will document in the etherpad). but as we've seen, the original changeset is turning out to be a beast. i have no real concept of how much additional work or rethought or | 15:21 |
| tsymanczyk | rewrite is going to be required before that's 100%. | 15:21 |
| tsymanczyk | both days are the same to me. | 15:21 |
| rosmaita | i'm good with whatever sync time tsymanczyk wants | 15:21 |
| nikhil | go team! | 15:21 |
| rosmaita | friday is prob better, though | 15:21 |
| nikhil | ok | 15:22 |
| tsymanczyk | still works for me. | 15:22 |
| rosmaita | what time is the sync? (may explain why i keep missing it) | 15:22 |
| tsymanczyk | 22m ago, except on fridays. | 15:22 |
| rosmaita | ok, so 1500 utc | 15:22 |
| rosmaita | ty | 15:22 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: re-iterations are very common. tbh, this feature is quite better, some of us had to publish 50+ PS per commit for a few features (With multiple iterations) | 15:23 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: 12noon ET /9am PT fridays | 15:23 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: ^ | 15:23 |
| rosmaita | ok, so 1600 utc | 15:24 |
| tsymanczyk | nikhil now that you've had somewhat of a look at the first changset, i'm really interested in learning what you think needs to change beyond twiddling the unit tests. you had briefly mentioned possibly adding some compatibility layer for v1? i'd appreciate if anything like that could also be added to the etherpad. changes like that require a higher level of | 15:24 |
| tsymanczyk | udnerstanding to suss out than i currently have. | 15:24 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: tsymanczyk: yes, 1600utc | 15:25 |
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| nikhil | tsymanczyk: yeah will do, but I'm not really sure atm. I like to see things through and then iterate over that's why I'm focusing on seeing all the test failures and the changes they require. once I get to all the tests that need to be changed, I will have a good idea of where and how we need a compat layer. | 15:26 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: for now the findings are premature -- some of the is_public usage in v1 is related to admin being able to perform some operations on images that may not be truly public. | 15:27 |
| nikhil | that's why we see is_public true for some private visibility images | 15:27 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: but pushing this back to ocata will def slow me down on this feature. I will be spending majority time on import work starting today so, I think we will have to sync on fridays and sort it out together. may be even review our own code then. | 15:28 |
| tsymanczyk | certainly. priorities matter | 15:29 |
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| tsymanczyk | so for the short term i will focus on getting the positive functionality into the 2nd and 3rd patchsets, then add unit tests for same? | 15:31 |
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| nikhil | tsymanczyk: I think that sounds sane. that way we can test this out on devstack and see where in the API the changes impact. I added a note in the etherpad that may explain this a bit. | 15:32 |
| tsymanczyk | once i (shortly) add the earlier insanity to the etherpad, i'd sure appreciate anyone's insight as to the cause / mistake / remediation. these two changesets simply should not be that complicated. but not being able to local test them reliably is painful. | 15:32 |
| nikhil | sounds good. | 15:35 |
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| hemanthm | nikhil: the last glance_store opts patch just merged. | 15:38 |
| nikhil | hemanthm: nice! I was about to ping you :) | 15:38 |
| hemanthm | dharinic and itisha deserve a ton of credit for pushing this through. | 15:38 |
| rosmaita | +1 | 15:39 |
| rosmaita | and hemanthm deserves a bunch for driving | 15:39 |
| hemanthm | rosmaita and you for being so helpful with the reviews | 15:39 |
| rosmaita | possibly more of a PITA than a help | 15:39 |
| nikhil | dharinic: itisha: good work girls! | 15:39 |
| hemanthm | helpful PITA :) | 15:39 |
| dharinic | Thank you hemanthm: | 15:39 |
| itisha | Thanks nikhil :D | 15:40 |
| dharinic | nikhil: Thanks. :) | 15:40 |
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| nikhil | #success glance_store config help text changes completed for newton | 15:40 |
| openstackstatus | nikhil: Added success to Success page | 15:40 |
| itisha | Thanks a lot hemanthm for the push, and rosmaita for all your helpful reviews :D | 15:40 |
| rosmaita | plus don't forget abashmak pitching in over the past week | 15:41 |
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| tsymanczyk | nice! | 15:41 |
| hemanthm | +1, quality reviews abashmak! | 15:41 |
| nikhil | Thanks a ton for your efforts , whoever remained persistent in completing this through, reviewing and providing feedback in general! | 15:42 |
| hemanthm | on to glance opts now | 15:42 |
| nikhil | I think we can include a few others to that list. | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/glance: Add CPU thread pinning to metadata defs https://review.openstack.org/354213 | 15:42 |
| nikhil | too* | 15:42 |
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| tsymanczyk | nikhil rosmaita : i've documented the insanity in the etherpad. | 15:42 |
| tsymanczyk | hopefully this is reproducable for others. ... otherwise ... gremlins? idk. | 15:43 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: thanks, will look forward to reading | 15:43 |
| rosmaita | i will set up a new devstack this afternoon and try it out | 15:43 |
| tsymanczyk | really appreciate it, thanks. | 15:44 |
| nikhil | commented, tsymanczyk | 15:44 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: kragniz Jokke_ hemanthm flaper87 flwang mfedosin sabari sigmavirus : guys, I'm planning to cut the (most likely) final release for store and client for newton in a few hours. Does anyone know/want any change in before that? | 16:05 |
| sigmavirus | not i | 16:06 |
| nikhil | bunting: wxy__ ^ | 16:06 |
| hemanthm | nikhil: none from me | 16:06 |
| nikhil | ty | 16:06 |
| rosmaita | not aware of anything | 16:06 |
| nikhil | stevemar: itisha : kragniz: sorry to say but we didn't get enough core attention on https://review.openstack.org/290497 in the last few days. seems like we will have to wait before ocata series starts on that change as I'm a bit hesistent on merging it last minute. | 16:09 |
| nikhil | and .. I will wait on hemanthm or dharinic to write a release note commit for glance_store | 16:10 |
| dharinic | On it. | 16:10 |
| nikhil | so may be the releases will be proposed to be tagged in 4-6 hours (as soon as that commit merges) | 16:10 |
| stevemar | nikhil: the pleasure of being ptl! | 16:10 |
| nikhil | stevemar: indeed! | 16:10 |
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| stevemar | nikhil: just make sure to get eyes on it early in ocata ;) | 16:11 |
| stevemar | i want to rip out the deprecated code in keystoneclient | 16:11 |
| nikhil | stevemar: I will try to review it right after newton is cut so from your perspective it's not gunna be that different. just that glance newton will remain otherwise. | 16:12 |
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| nikhil | stevemar: or may be keystoneclient is affected, sorry.. | 16:12 |
| stevemar | nikhil: nah, wasn't gonna rip it out this release | 16:12 |
| nikhil | stevemar: ah cool | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance_store: Release note for glance_store configuration opts. https://review.openstack.org/356589 | 16:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Dharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance_store: Release note for glance_store configuration opts. https://review.openstack.org/356589 | 16:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance_store: Release note for glance_store configuration opts. https://review.openstack.org/356589 | 16:35 |
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| tsymanczyk | nikhil : marked up the etherpad again. adding in the reinstall step doesn't seem to change the outcome (for me). | 16:37 |
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| kragniz | nikhil: fair enough, I didn't get enough time to look over it sorry | 16:52 |
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| bunting | nikhil: Not from me | 17:28 |
| nikhil | thanks guys, kragniz bunting | 17:29 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: commented | 17:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance_store: Release note for glance_store configuration opts. https://review.openstack.org/356589 | 17:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Dharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance_store: Release note for glance_store configuration opts. https://review.openstack.org/356589 | 17:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance_store: Release note for glance_store configuration opts. https://review.openstack.org/356589 | 18:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jin Li proposed openstack/glance-specs: change the example URLs in narrative-style API docs for glance-specs https://review.openstack.org/353787 | 18:38 |
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| walharthi_ | Hello guys. I have a question about an API call Glance makes when I try to launch an instance from Horizon. It keeps sending GET requests to v2/metadefs/namespaces and doesn't stop, and Horizon becomes extremely slow that I have to reopen it. I understand that the API call is meant to list namespaces but why does it do it so many times? is it normal? What can I do/read to know more about this? Thanks! | 18:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance_store: Release note for glance_store configuration opts. https://review.openstack.org/356589 | 18:58 |
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| nikhil | TravT: a possible enhancement for future? ref: walharthi_ ^ | 19:17 |
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| TravT | nikhil: yeah there are some perf enhancements that could be done... frankly, it would be best if horizon just checked if there were updates and otherwise cached the data. | 19:19 |
| nikhil | TravT: makes sense. I remembered a old conversation and thought best to get such input in context. but we don't see many such so not an urgent matter I think. | 19:22 |
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| TravT | here's a profile of the calls: | 19:23 |
| TravT | http://imgur.com/a/OV5Is | 19:23 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: The volume for logs.openstack.org filled up rather suddenly, causing a number of jobs to fail with a POST_FAILURE result and no logs; we're manually expiring some logs now to buy breathing room, but any changes which hit that in the past few minutes will need to be rechecked and/or approved again | 19:44 | |
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| abashmak | anybody know how/when api-ref sources get compiled? | 19:59 |
| abashmak | I thought running "tox -e docs" would do it, but apparently not | 20:02 |
| hemanthm | abashmak: https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/tox.ini#L76 | 20:04 |
| abashmak | doh, thanks hemanthm | 20:05 |
| hemanthm | yw | 20:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexander Bashmakov proposed openstack/glance: Update api-ref to add newly supported 'vhdx' disk format option. https://review.openstack.org/356693 | 20:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance_store: Release note for glance_store configuration opts. https://review.openstack.org/356589 | 20:40 |
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| nikhil | dharinic: one nit ^ | 20:49 |
| nikhil | hemanthm: ^ | 20:49 |
| dharinic | nikhil: Will fix that | 20:49 |
| dharinic | Thanks | 20:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikhil Komawar proposed openstack/glance_store: Add release notes for 0.17.0 https://review.openstack.org/356781 | 22:25 |
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| tsymanczyk | nikhil : holy snap that was frustrating. you know why replacing is_image_visible with False everywhere didn't deny images? because the openstack client would make the original 'GET' request for that specific image, correctly receive the 404 / fail, and then retry by requesting the full image list and getting the info that way... ... that's why it never made | 22:32 |
| tsymanczyk | sense. your note in the etherpad is (of course) exactly correct - image_get_all never queries or respects is_image_visible. ... | 22:32 |
| tsymanczyk | that really feels a bug tbh? | 22:32 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: this looks terrible | 22:33 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: why is openstack client making such bad assumptions!? | 22:34 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: btw, we still prefer to use glanceclient over openstack client as osc still doesn't have full support. | 22:34 |
| nikhil | tsymanczyk: about the list not respecting, not sure atm. I think that is prolly expected behavior but we may need to dig up on historical context. | 22:35 |
| tsymanczyk | certainly. i think i'm going to go straight to using curl. this hidden.... whatever you want to call it... is a source of frustration that i don't need. | 22:36 |
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| nikhil | tsymanczyk: totally. alternatively, you may wanna try out a chrome extension called POSTman (pretty useful utility) | 22:37 |
| nikhil | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/postman/fhbjgbiflinjbdggehcddcbncdddomop?hl=en | 22:37 |
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| tsymanczyk | i'll check it out, thanks! | 22:38 |
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