Tuesday, 2018-12-04

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openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/glance master: Change openstack-dev to openstack-discuss  https://review.openstack.org/62181901:53
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openstackgerritBrin Zhang proposed openstack/glance-specs master: Change openstack-dev to openstack-discuss  https://review.openstack.org/62185202:32
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openstackgerritJason SUN proposed openstack/python-glanceclient master: Change openstack-dev to openstack-discuss  https://review.openstack.org/62187602:47
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openstackgerritLeopard Ma proposed openstack/glance_store master: Change openstack-dev to openstack-discuss  https://review.openstack.org/62190403:05
openstackgerritLeopard Ma proposed openstack/glance-specs master: Change openstack-dev to openstack-discuss  https://review.openstack.org/62191503:13
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openstackgerritNate Johnston proposed openstack/glance master: Replace neutron-grenade job with grenade-py3  https://review.openstack.org/62244417:17
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abhishekkjokke_, rosmaita, smcginnis, hi, could you please have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/620781/ and https://review.openstack.org/618468 and https://review.openstack.org/61809317:40
abhishekkWe need to backport them to stable/rocky as well17:41
abhishekkThank you17:41
rosmaitaok17:41
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imacdonnabhishekk: still around ?17:44
abhishekkimacdonn: yes17:45
imacdonnhi ... was wondering if you had any further discussions with jokke_ about adding locations without metadata specifying a backend17:45
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abhishekkimacdonn: unfortunately no, i had medical emergency in my family, so was not able to online during his timeline17:47
imacdonnabhishekk: Ah, ok .. hope the emergency got resolved.17:47
abhishekkimacdonn: his concern is if nova is using ceph backend and galnce's default backend is not ceph then the snapshot will not be uploaded to ceph backend17:48
imacdonnabhishekk: I think my proposal solves that .. it should pick the first backend that is capable of handling a ceph URL17:48
imacdonnabhishekk: I don't have a ceph test environment, though....17:50
abhishekkBut IMO that should not be a concern (we need a change at nova and cinder so that they can specify a backend if they want to take a snapshot, or upload volume to image)17:51
rosmaitaimacdonn: i believe that the snapshot must be in the same backend as the original image17:51
imacdonnrosmaita: OK, well, if that's the case, it needs to be solved by having the client specify the backend anyway, so it's an orthogonal problem17:51
abhishekkrosmaita: yes, but they should change their client to use our multiple backend feature17:52
rosmaitaabhishekk: i think "they" == "us" (or more precisely, you)17:52
abhishekkwhat imacdonn just said17:52
abhishekkrosmaita: ack, but I guess we need to wait untill multiple backend is active (not experimental)17:53
imacdonnI thought it was to become mandatory in Stein17:54
abhishekkI guess, i will start with writing submitting a specs17:54
abhishekkimacdonn: it is experimental in rocky and will be available after Stein release17:55
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imacdonnI was under the impression that it was not just available in Stein, but required ... maybe I misunderstood, or the direction changed ?17:56
imacdonn(or the schedule slipped, I guess I should say)17:57
abhishekkimacdonn: you are right, but stein is not released yet :D17:58
imacdonnabhishekk: OK, but spec freezes are looming .....18:02
imacdonnabhishekk: I think we should try to verify that my proposal works for the typical case, where you have a single ceph backend and some other type of backend that is the default18:03
abhishekkimacdonn: yes, and I am pretty sure it will get be redicted to Train cycle18:04
abhishekkimacdonn: i will try to setup nova with ceph backend (never tried it before)18:05
imacdonnabhishekk: OK, thanks ... I had nova/ceph working a couple of years ago, but didn't maintain it - I'd have to build ceph again from scratch, then wire it into nova, then figure out the snapshot capability (didn't look at that last time)18:06
abhishekkI already have glance with two ceph backend, so If i succeed, i will able to test the scenario pointed out by rosmaita as well18:06
imacdonncool18:06
abhishekkimacdonn: will update you in a day or two18:07
imacdonnabhishekk: thank you!18:07
abhishekkimacdonn: no problem, thank you and have a nice time ahead18:08
imacdonnabhishekk: Have a good night! (I think it's night, right?)18:09
abhishekkYes, (going offline now)18:09
imacdonn:)18:09
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jokke_so the problem is not exactly that nova wouldn't be able to upload the snapshot (it's just cow from ceph side) the problem is that Nova is using the locations api to register that snapshot as image in glance19:36
jokke_and if it can't do that with multiple backends we're breaking world19:36
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imacdonnjokke_: I think that aligns with my understanding (assumption, really) ... and I think my position on the matter remains the same20:00
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mriedemthe series to get the framework in place for the glance-status upgrade check command is pretty boilerplate if some cores can take a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/610661/621:09
mriedemthere are a couple of dependent patches which are needed to clean some things up to make the command work21:09
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