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| spzala_ | tbh: how are you Bharath? | 15:59 |
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| spzala_ | Hi all | 16:00 |
| bobh | o/ | 16:00 |
| spzala_ | meeting time :) | 16:00 |
| spzala_ | o/ | 16:00 |
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| tbh | spzala_, Hi, am fine | 16:00 |
| spzala_ | srinivas: Hi | 16:00 |
| tbh | o/ | 16:00 |
| srinivas | Hi All | 16:00 |
| spzala_ | tbh: cool | 16:00 |
| zhipeng | hey | 16:00 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: hi, thx for joining | 16:00 |
| zhipeng | no problem :) | 16:00 |
| spzala_ | :) | 16:00 |
| spzala_ | So first announcement, tosca 0.4.0 pypi, https://pypi.python.org/pypi/tosca-parser | 16:02 |
| spzala_ | it's out yesterday evening | 16:02 |
| spzala_ | did send it on ML | 16:02 |
| spzala_ | thank you so much everyone for your contribution and making it happen | 16:02 |
| spzala_ | lot of good stuff went in this release | 16:02 |
| srinivas | nfv template is also there in this release. right sahdev? | 16:03 |
| spzala_ | if you didn't get email announcement, please let me know I will forward to you | 16:03 |
| spzala_ | srinivas: yup, that's true | 16:03 |
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| srinivas | sahdev, i might missed the announcement mail | 16:03 |
| spzala_ | OK, I will forward it to you, | 16:03 |
| topol | o/ | 16:03 |
| srinivas | Sahdev, shall we discuss nfv related stuff first? | 16:04 |
| spzala_ | topol: o/ | 16:04 |
| spzala_ | thanks for joining | 16:04 |
| spzala_ | alright so let's talk about OPNFV parser and tosca-parser | 16:05 |
| srinivas | are you there bob? | 16:05 |
| bobh | o/ | 16:05 |
| spzala_ | srinivas: do you wanna update on it? | 16:05 |
| spzala_ | srinivas: do we expect anyone else? | 16:05 |
| spzala_ | we can wait little more and cover other stuff? | 16:05 |
| srinivas | howard, bob are needed. I guess,both are there on chat | 16:06 |
| zhipeng | it is a little bit late in China | 16:06 |
| zhipeng | yes i think we could start | 16:06 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: yep, agree.. it's late there :-) | 16:06 |
| spzala_ | cool | 16:06 |
| spzala_ | so since Bob and Srinivas knows both side well, tosca-parser and OPNFV | 16:07 |
| spzala_ | I would go with what you think first? | 16:07 |
| srinivas | ok. As mentioned in the email, how do we collaborate of nfv development in tosca-parser | 16:07 |
| spzala_ | srinivas: so can we use tosca-parser as a common project for nfv development work OPNFV is doing? | 16:08 |
| spzala_ | bobh has done great job | 16:08 |
| srinivas | yes.. that is the plan | 16:08 |
| spzala_ | and we really have a good and clear architecture to enhance NFV support | 16:08 |
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| spzala_ | the initial NFV support is already there now | 16:09 |
| spzala_ | http://www.mpaste.com/p/DbZ5iT - for a quick review of email content on 0.4.0 which has NFV on top | 16:09 |
| bobh | I'm not familiar enough with OPNFV Parser project to know how it aligns with tosca-parser? | 16:09 |
| spzala_ | bobh: gotcha | 16:09 |
| topol | very cool to join forces and put this all in one project! | 16:09 |
| bobh | topol: +1 | 16:10 |
| spzala_ | srinivas: does OPNFV use TOSCA NFV simple profile? | 16:10 |
| spzala_ | topol: yup | 16:10 |
| srinivas | howard, would you like to start small brief on opnfv parser? | 16:10 |
| spzala_ | srinivas: cool. howard: please .. | 16:10 |
| zhipeng | bobh Parser is developing requirements for tosca-parser ,and integrate tosca-parser into OPNFV after the requirements are implemented | 16:11 |
| spzala_ | howard: qq - do you know OpenStack TOSCA-Parser project well? | 16:11 |
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| zhipeng | that is the principle of the work | 16:11 |
| zhipeng | Victor Hu works with us in Parser | 16:11 |
| zhipeng | so i have some knowleage :) | 16:11 |
| bobh | zhipeng: that makes sense | 16:11 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: yup | 16:11 |
| spzala_ | victor is core in tosca-parser project | 16:11 |
| zhipeng | yep | 16:11 |
| spzala_ | so zhipeng: I think what we should do: | 16:11 |
| zhipeng | and back to the topic of Parser | 16:12 |
| zhipeng | currently we are targeting tosca nfv standard | 16:12 |
| zhipeng | i'm not sure if it is the simple tosca that you guys were talking about? | 16:12 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: in that case, I think we are really in good shape | 16:12 |
| bobh | zhipeng: yes - we used the Simple Profile for NFV as the basis for our work | 16:12 |
| spzala_ | it's both now, simple parser and tosca nfv | 16:12 |
| zhipeng | okey great | 16:13 |
| bobh | zhipeng: note that there are some issues with that profile that make it difficult to implement, so there are some places where we diverged | 16:13 |
| spzala_ | i.e. TOSCA Simple Profile and TOSCA NFV simple profile | 16:13 |
| zhipeng | TOSCA NFV simple profile should be the common ground I think | 16:13 |
| zhipeng | is that what bob's work based upon ? | 16:14 |
| bobh | zhipeng: yes | 16:14 |
| zhipeng | fantastic :) | 16:14 |
| bobh | zhipeng: we are providing feedback to the working group so they can improve the spec based on what we find | 16:14 |
| zhipeng | so last year our ZTE subteam did an analysis on the standards | 16:15 |
| bobh | zhipeng: I am using this work in the Tacker project so that we can deploy NFV TOSCA templates | 16:15 |
| zhipeng | and advise to the whole team to go with tosca nfv | 16:15 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: nice | 16:15 |
| zhipeng | and we have developed some keyword requirements in the last year as well, however we did not find the time to feedback to tosca-parser team | 16:16 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: :-) OK | 16:16 |
| zhipeng | so some background :) | 16:16 |
| zhipeng | now we are doing planing for our next release | 16:16 |
| bobh | spzala_: I assume tosca-parser wants to stay with the spec and extensions can be provided by custom definitions in other projects | 16:16 |
| spzala_ | I used to get some update from Victor but as you said he has got busy too so I am not uptodate | 16:17 |
| spzala_ | bobh: yup | 16:17 |
| spzala_ | and I think that's the best way | 16:17 |
| bobh | Tacker is going to have a "tacker_defs.yaml" file that will overlay on the NFV Spec | 16:17 |
| spzala_ | was about to mention that with extensions - it allows flexibility on NFV side | 16:17 |
| bobh | as we get things pushed upstream into the spec we can move them from the tack_defs into the official spec | 16:17 |
| zhipeng | so I had some discussion with Victor and Shitao Li | 16:18 |
| spzala_ | bobh: sure | 16:18 |
| zhipeng | i was told that actually the standard side is not so stable as well | 16:18 |
| bobh | spzala_: It occurred to me that we might need versions of extensions - I'll see about adding that at some point | 16:18 |
| spzala_ | bobh: that's true, eventually we definitely need versioning | 16:18 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: that's true too | 16:19 |
| zhipeng | and we want to make sure that changes in the standard side won't impact too much at the tosca-parser impl | 16:19 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: though it's got lot stable lately | 16:19 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: I agree | 16:19 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: the latest draft of simple profile is close to stable | 16:20 |
| zhipeng | yep, so anyways i pulled shitao also into the Parser team. I suggest a work pipeline that we discuss the requirement with the standard side first | 16:20 |
| zhipeng | after got confirmation then we go to tosca-parser | 16:20 |
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| zhipeng | and I think this could work for Tacker as well | 16:20 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: I expect some changes. And as you said, that's been remain a biggest challenge to the developers on tosca-parser | 16:20 |
| bobh | zhipeng: I think Tacker will probably be working ahead of the standards too - we don't want to wait for consensus if there is something we can do quickly right away | 16:21 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: that's perfect. May be we continue this discussion as follow up meeting in next week's IRC meeting here, and by then we have a clear idea of how you can use and leverage tosca-parser project | 16:21 |
| zhipeng | bobh that is the common problem we are facing throughout the NFV sphere :) | 16:22 |
| bobh | zhipeng: I think it will be useful to try things and if they work feed them into the standards | 16:22 |
| zhipeng | bobh yes | 16:22 |
| zhipeng | so what I suggest is | 16:22 |
| spzala_ | bobh: zhipeng: I am totally fine having tosca-parser nfv code implementation ahead of spec, it shouldn't hurt simple profile side at all | 16:22 |
| bobh | zhipeng: true, but we can wait a LONG time for consensus :-) | 16:22 |
| spzala_ | bobh: yes, development work should drive spec :-) | 16:23 |
| zhipeng | we discuss this altogether in Parser meeting, and I will push Shitao for the standard ack :) | 16:23 |
| zhipeng | and then we do impl in tosca-parser | 16:23 |
| spzala_ | bobh: as much as possible | 16:23 |
| bobh | spzala_: I think versioning the extensions will help here - we can have an experimental NFV version that doesn't affect the "official" NFV version | 16:23 |
| zhipeng | versioning the extensions sounds like a good idea | 16:24 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: sure, yup, good plan. so when can you think as far as timeline? | 16:24 |
| zhipeng | spzala_ what do you mean by timeline ? | 16:24 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: meant to say when can your team start development contribution on nfv side of tosca-parser? | 16:25 |
| zhipeng | i think at the end of the month after we finished the planning cycle | 16:26 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: OK, perfect | 16:26 |
| spzala_ | :-) | 16:26 |
| zhipeng | i have a whole team ready to work on this :) | 16:26 |
| spzala_ | :-) Nice | 16:26 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: do you have a link to the OPNFV repo for me to learn little bit on it? | 16:27 |
| zhipeng | so bobh would it be ok to get together at the parser meeting ? | 16:27 |
| zhipeng | spzala_ you could go to gerrit.opnfv.org | 16:27 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: cool, thanks!! | 16:27 |
| zhipeng | and search for parser like you do proj search on openstack | 16:28 |
| bobh | zhipeng: sure - let me know when/where | 16:28 |
| zhipeng | bobh great I will keep you in cc'ed for our meeting :) | 16:28 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: please cc me too. Are you talking about OPNFV irc sort of meeting? | 16:28 |
| spzala_ | or call-in? | 16:28 |
| zhipeng | we use gotomeeting | 16:28 |
| spzala_ | OK | 16:29 |
| zhipeng | since irc is banned for our HP colleague... | 16:29 |
| zhipeng | we rely on email and gtm :) | 16:29 |
| spzala_ | ahhh I see | 16:29 |
| zhipeng | no problem I will cc you spzala_ | 16:29 |
| spzala_ | :) yup as long as it works | 16:29 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: thx | 16:29 |
| spzala_ | cool, so I guess we have a plan. Srinivas: any comment from you? | 16:30 |
| spzala_ | srinivas: ^^ | 16:30 |
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| spzala_ | bobh: zhipeng: any comments from you? | 16:31 |
| bobh | spzala_: sounds good to me | 16:31 |
| zhipeng | so far so good :) | 16:31 |
| srinivas | Sahdev: sorry.. I got a phone call. so missed some text.. looks fine to me | 16:31 |
| spzala_ | srinivas: np at all | 16:32 |
| spzala_ | OK, excellent. | 16:32 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: thanks for joining today.. I know it's late for you so please feel free to drop if you want | 16:32 |
| zhipeng | spzala_ okey very nice to meet you guys :) | 16:32 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: :-) same here !! | 16:33 |
| zhipeng | look forward to more discussions via email or gtm :) | 16:33 |
| spzala_ | zhipeng: :-) yup, that will work great | 16:33 |
| spzala_ | alright, moving on as it's late for folks in India too. | 16:34 |
| spzala_ | bharath: anything from you? | 16:34 |
| spzala_ | bharath: questions on the deployment work? or anything else? | 16:34 |
| spzala_ | tbh: ^^ | 16:34 |
| tbh | spzala_, nothing from side today | 16:35 |
| spzala_ | :-) OK | 16:35 |
| tbh | *my side | 16:35 |
| spzala_ | :-) | 16:35 |
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| spzala_ | so focus for next three weeks is more on heat-translator | 16:36 |
| srinivas | sahdev & bobh, we meet in parser gtm. bye for now | 16:36 |
| spzala_ | so that we can have a pypi 0.4.0 for heat-translator as well in line with tosca-parser release | 16:36 |
| spzala_ | srinivas: OK, bye.. good night | 16:36 |
| bobh | srinivas: bye | 16:36 |
| srinivas | thanks. have a good day | 16:36 |
| spzala_ | srinivas: thanks for helping with the OPNFV work today | 16:36 |
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| bobh | spzala_: I know of one change needed in heat-translator - I'll push it today now that we have 0.4.0 | 16:37 |
| spzala_ | tbh: pl feel free to drop as well | 16:37 |
| tbh | spzala_, sure | 16:37 |
| spzala_ | bobh: OK, sure. yup, the one item that we waited on 0.4.0 :-) | 16:37 |
| spzala_ | tbh: thanks again for joining. talk to you soon. | 16:37 |
| spzala_ | bobh: anything else from you? | 16:38 |
| bobh | spzala_: actually this is a test that breaks in heat-translator with 0.4.0 tosca-parser | 16:38 |
| bobh | spzala_: would it make sense to update the gerrit bot to post tosca-parser changers here? | 16:39 |
| spzala_ | bobh: I see, I thought it's the one where you couldn't add a new test without 0.4.0 | 16:39 |
| bobh | spzala_: that too :-) | 16:39 |
| spzala_ | :-) | 16:39 |
| spzala_ | bobh: yes, and actually we have it with global requirement | 16:39 |
| spzala_ | bobh: I am going to change the 0.3.0 req for heat-translator to 0.4.0 | 16:39 |
| bobh | spzala_: do you want to make the other change at the same time? py27 tox will fail without it, I think | 16:40 |
| spzala_ | bobh: I am also making one change in heat-translator specific to 0.4.0 so will work on updating the min. req to 0.4.0 | 16:40 |
| spzala_ | bobh: no, I won't. So basically, the test that fails tox is the one you are going to fix right? | 16:41 |
| spzala_ | bobh: I did tested manually on local env. that nothing serious is breaking in heat-translator due to 0.4.0 tosca-parser | 16:41 |
| bobh | spzala_: then you probably found the wordpress test that broke | 16:42 |
| spzala_ | I know last couple of days we have few changes went in but shouldn't create much trouble | 16:42 |
| spzala_ | bobh: hmm.. I didn't :( | 16:42 |
| bobh | spzala_: ok - i'll re-test - maybe something else fixed it | 16:42 |
| spzala_ | sure, may be not and it's still breaking | 16:43 |
| bobh | spzala_: that was how I found the "break" statement bug - I updated to master tosca-parser and heat-translator died | 16:43 |
| spzala_ | I did test it but not in last couple days | 16:43 |
| spzala_ | ah, but you have fix that right? | 16:43 |
| spzala_ | added break | 16:44 |
| bobh | yes - that's in 0.4.0 - I'll see if the other issue is still there | 16:44 |
| spzala_ | Sure, sounds great | 16:44 |
| spzala_ | bobh: thanks much!! | 16:44 |
| bobh | spzala_: no problem | 16:44 |
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| spzala_ | bobh: anything else for meeting? or we can call it a meeting and continue off line discussion | 16:45 |
| bobh | spzala_: do you want me to put in infra patch for tosca-parser gerrit to show up here | 16:45 |
| bobh | ? | 16:45 |
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| spzala_ | bobh: I have that planned so let's wait with some of our testing and do it then? | 16:46 |
| bobh | spzala_: sounds good - thanks! | 16:46 |
| spzala_ | spzala: little late today? | 16:46 |
| spzala_ | bobh: no problem, thank you !! | 16:46 |
| spzala_ | bobh: alright then, I am gonna step away for quick lunch with team | 16:47 |
| spzala_ | bobh: talk to you soon | 16:47 |
| bobh | spzala_: have a good day | 16:48 |
| spzala_ | bobh: thx. You too !! | 16:48 |
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| spzala | bobh: ping | 21:18 |
| bobh | spzala: hello | 21:30 |
| spzala | bobh: sorry I had to run after morning meeting but looking at the heat-translator jenkins failure | 21:31 |
| spzala | bobh: you mentioned you have fix for 'wordpress' interface error ? and we should do both requirement update and your fix at the same time | 21:32 |
| bobh | spzala: I haven't had time to reproduce it again but I do have the fix | 21:32 |
| spzala | bobh: cool | 21:32 |
| bobh | it was a change to an exception and a different version of the csar file | 21:33 |
| spzala | bobh: would you go ahead and update it then? It will run against 0.4.0 tosca-parser | 21:33 |
| bobh | sure - it might be tonight before I can get to it | 21:33 |
| spzala | bobh: sure, that's cool | 21:34 |
| spzala | bobh: and let me then send infra change patch to have 0.4.0 | 21:34 |
| spzala | bobh: I was wondering if you want to update both at same time | 21:34 |
| bobh | sure if you want | 21:35 |
| spzala | bobh: sure, thought infra sometime takes longer time | 21:35 |
| spzala | s/though/thought | 21:35 |
| bobh | spzala: Looks like something else broke - lots of errors in my test env but not the one I was originally going to fix | 21:58 |
| bobh | spzala: using tosca-parser 0.4.0 with latest heat-translator master | 21:58 |
| spzala | bobh: OK, I see..let me look at it | 21:59 |
| bobh | I'm going to reinstall both from git and see if it helps - it was working (with my patch) over the weekend | 22:00 |
| bobh | Looks like osc tests are failing | 22:05 |
| bobh | I re-applied my patch which fixed that problem | 22:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Sahdev Zala proposed openstack/heat-translator: Test 0.4.0 tosca parser https://review.openstack.org/276471 | 22:14 |
| spzala | bobh: ohh NICE | 22:15 |
| spzala | sorry didn't see your message until now | 22:15 |
| spzala | bobh: Yup, osc tests are failing | 22:15 |
| spzala | bobh: so you have a fix now? | 22:16 |
| bobh | not for osc - just for the other issue - which was only causing one test to fail | 22:16 |
| bobh | still looking at osc | 22:16 |
| spzala | bobh: OK, I am actually thinking to skip osc tests for now | 22:16 |
| spzala | bobh: if we can't figure out why it's happening | 22:16 |
| spzala | bobh: it's strange though, all osc are failing locally | 22:17 |
| bobh | nothing obvious yet | 22:17 |
| spzala | bobh: but jenkins was fine we added osc | 22:17 |
| bobh | it has to be something simple | 22:17 |
| spzala | bobh: so I wonder if Jenkin still works with your fix and see how jenkins take it | 22:18 |
| spzala | bobh: true | 22:18 |
| bobh | I can push it if you like and see what happens | 22:18 |
| spzala | bobh: yup, please do so | 22:18 |
| spzala | bobh: let's see how it goes | 22:19 |
| bobh | ok | 22:19 |
| spzala | bobh: I had two other failures in my local env. other than OSC but seems like you probably didn't see it, or your ptach is fixing them | 22:19 |
| spzala | bobh: cool, THANKS | 22:20 |
| bobh | I just saw a couple of other failures too that I hadnt seen over the weekend | 22:20 |
| spzala | bobh: yup, one seems with relationship -- as few patches went in parser on that subject so that's obvious but | 22:20 |
| spzala | other one complaining on csar parameters requirement didn't make sense | 22:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Bob Haddleton proposed openstack/heat-translator: Update test for invalid import path with correct CSAR and message https://review.openstack.org/276473 | 22:21 |
| bobh | spzala: yup - something strange - maybe CSAR contents using datadefinition or something? | 22:22 |
| spzala | bobh: hah, yeah good point .. the test was invalid import but let me check csar | 22:23 |
| spzala | bobh: ahhh, I think I know what it is - one of our folk from India added validation for imports and that's where something introduced probably | 22:27 |
| spzala | bobh: I can fix that quickly I think | 22:27 |
| spzala | bobh: I need to take an undesired break .. I need to go provide few things to OpenStack Meetup hosted locally by Cisco.. I wanted to stay there but with translator test failures, I won't stay though I need to go give them things I supposed | 22:29 |
| spzala | bobh: may need to take an hour or so break but let's see how out patches do until then | 22:29 |
| bobh | spzala: sounds good - almost time for me to head out too | 22:30 |
| spzala | bobh: :-) OK | 22:30 |
| spzala | bobh: thanks, appreciate your help toward debugging | 22:30 |
| spzala | bobh: later | 22:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sahdev Zala proposed openstack/heat-translator: Update code to use tosca-parser 0.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/276473 | 23:53 |
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