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weigreen | hello, i install icehouce release. and i found out that when i open instance's detail console tab and i got the Failed to connect to server (code: 1006) error | 05:41 |
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weigreen | but when i open "Click here to show only console" and the vpn work | 05:42 |
weigreen | i had checked the log. it doesn't have error | 05:43 |
weigreen | have someone have this problem? | 05:43 |
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nikunj2512 | Hi | 10:35 |
nikunj2512 | I am working on this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1260281 | 10:36 |
nikunj2512 | and i have some questions related to this bug | 10:36 |
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rdopieralski | nikunj2512: you meanie | 10:45 |
rdopieralski | nikunj2512: you tease us telling us you have questions | 10:46 |
rdopieralski | nikunj2512: but you never ask them :( | 10:46 |
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nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: i was waiting for someone to reply :) | 10:47 |
nikunj2512 | So, in this bug it is mentioned that some things are broken | 10:47 |
nikunj2512 | but from my inspection, i am seeing that whole horizon is broken in IE=11 | 10:48 |
rdopieralski | nikunj2512: there is a tradition on IRC to just ask the question right away, it saves time | 10:48 |
nikunj2512 | I have uploaded some screenshots on the bug page for everyone to take a look | 10:48 |
nikunj2512 | ohh... Ok :) | 10:48 |
nikunj2512 | Will You be kind enough to take a look at them and tell me your views | 10:49 |
nikunj2512 | ?? | 10:49 |
rdopieralski | nikunj2512: what is the question again? | 10:49 |
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nikunj2512 | In this bug it is mentioned that some parts of Horizon UI are broken for IE >8 | 10:50 |
nikunj2512 | but during my testing with IE=11, whole horizon UI is broken | 10:51 |
nikunj2512 | So, in this case what i should do?? | 10:51 |
nikunj2512 | Will i fix css for IE or investigate further, to see why it is broken?? | 10:51 |
mrunge | I'd say: the latter | 10:52 |
mrunge | do a real instead of a quick fix | 10:52 |
nikunj2512 | mrunge: i also want to do a real fix than a quick fix but as you see from one of comments which tells what parts of UI are broken | 10:54 |
rdopieralski | I would guess that there is something in the css that msie considers a syntax error, and then it ignores the rest | 10:54 |
rdopieralski | but it's wild guessing | 10:54 |
mrunge | I even could imagine, we're using features, IE does not support at all | 10:55 |
nikunj2512 | It says that most of the UI renders fine but with IE 11 i am seeing everything is broken | 10:55 |
mrunge | nikunj2512, you're looking at Juno version? The report is back from Havana or earlier | 10:55 |
mrunge | nikunj2512, I'd expect to be more broken, now with more JavaScript and more styling in place | 10:56 |
nikunj2512 | mrunge, Yes i am looking for Juno version | 10:56 |
nikunj2512 | Ok | 10:56 |
nikunj2512 | So, good approach will be this: find out why things are broken in IE and then fix them? | 10:57 |
nikunj2512 | Is this correct?? | 10:57 |
rdopieralski | yup | 10:58 |
rdopieralski | well, I can tell you why things are broken in IE | 10:58 |
rdopieralski | it's the development process and broken management at Microsoft | 10:58 |
rdopieralski | but I don't think we can fix that easily upstream ;) | 10:59 |
rdopieralski | so the second best thing that we can do is to find the things that trip it up and work around them | 11:00 |
rdopieralski | the fewer workarounds we need, though, the better | 11:00 |
nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: ok | 11:00 |
nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: So i will start looking on each component of Horizon and try to fix the issues | 11:01 |
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nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: I have one more question | 11:04 |
nikunj2512 | For example if most of the things works in IE11 will it be alright to say that horizon will work best in IE>=11 | 11:05 |
nikunj2512 | ?? | 11:05 |
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nikunj2512 | In the Horizon compatibility matrix we can say that we only support IE>=11, if most of this works there and other things can be fixed with minimal changes>? | 11:06 |
rdopieralski | that's for the ptl to decide | 11:06 |
nikunj2512 | Ok | 11:07 |
mrunge | I remember, we had a session back in Atlanta, and we said, we'll support the latest version of IE, which runs on XP(?) | 11:07 |
mrunge | and that'll be IE9? | 11:07 |
nikunj2512 | I think so | 11:07 |
nikunj2512 | If we have to support IE 9 it will be a lot of pain | 11:08 |
mrunge | yes, agreed | 11:08 |
mrunge | if it's broken on ie, we should encourage users to switch to sane software | 11:08 |
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nikunj2512 | Yes, You are right | 11:09 |
mrunge | so nikunj2512 , it's a heavy task, you're taking here | 11:09 |
nikunj2512 | Actually i already have a patch for review to check the versions of different browsers and to notify the user to upgrade it | 11:10 |
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rdopieralski | ugh, that's wrong :( | 11:10 |
nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: what is wrong? | 11:10 |
rdopieralski | we can't be telling users what to use | 11:10 |
mrunge | nikunj2512, that'd require to update horizon for each release of any browser | 11:11 |
nikunj2512 | Yes but it will atleast inform the user that there browser is not supported and they should update it | 11:12 |
mrunge | nikunj2512, what about companies with tight restrictions? | 11:12 |
nikunj2512 | And i don't think we will need to change the browser versions very frequently with each release of horizon | 11:12 |
mrunge | their users would see that warning each time | 11:12 |
nikunj2512 | mrunge: most of the companies atleast support the IE and they don't restrict there employees from upgrading there browser versions | 11:14 |
nikunj2512 | Yes, i think that will be correct because we should remind user that this product will not work best on the current browser and they should upgrade it | 11:14 |
nikunj2512 | Anyhow this is my view others views may differ. I just want to bring this version checking functionality in the horizon, so that it will be helpful for end-users to figure out why things are not rendering properly and which versions they should use | 11:16 |
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rdopieralski | nikunj2512: the users are not the ones who should see that warning, it's the admins, so the warning should go to the install docs | 11:18 |
nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: Ok | 11:21 |
nikunj2512 | But it is also possible that both admins and users might be at different locations and admins might forget to mention to the users which browser version to use and then it will be problem for the user to again go back to admin and to ask them for the browser compatibility matrix | 11:23 |
nikunj2512 | And if users are also able to see the warning message and if they can able to update there browsers, they will do it themselves without been dependant upon others | 11:24 |
rdopieralski | the users can see the docs too, and that's a lot of ifs :) | 11:24 |
rdopieralski | we can't annoy users with useless messages | 11:24 |
nikunj2512 | rdopieralski: Ok | 11:25 |
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mflobo | we need reviewrs for this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63678/ | 11:53 |
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mrunge | mflobo, cool, if you could review those here? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/horizon,n,z | 12:00 |
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tnovacik | dkorn, Hi, do you have a sec? | 14:35 |
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tnovacik | vokhrimenko_, Hi, do you have a sec? | 14:36 |
vokhrimenko_ | hi yes | 14:36 |
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tnovacik | vokhrimenko_, you have changed by accident(probably) topic on my patches, could you please change it back and possibly avoid modifying foreign patches in future? :-P :-) | 14:37 |
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vokhrimenko_ | Sorry, it was by mistake | 14:40 |
tnovacik | vokhrimenko_, of course, it is alright, but will you please change it back ? :D | 14:41 |
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tsufiev | tnovacik, this is my fault as well - I told vokhrimenko_ to rebase your patches locally, but forgot that this will lead to modifying your changes in gerrit | 14:43 |
tsufiev | tnovacik, unfortunately it seems that person who was not the initial commit's author is able to change only the commit message, but not the topic branch | 14:44 |
tsufiev | at least, I can't, suppose that the same is true for vokhrimenko_ also | 14:45 |
tnovacik | tsufiev, strange, i have talked to infra guys about this and they told me that anyone is allowed to do anything :D | 14:45 |
tnovacik | tsufiev, anyway i ll change it back | 14:45 |
tsufiev | tnovacik, perhaps it is true for core reviewers, but not for us :). Again, will be more careful in the future, sorry for unintentional bug theft | 14:48 |
amotoki | rdopieralski: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114051/9/openstack_dashboard/test/helpers.py, you are suggesting to use another name. | 14:54 |
amotoki | rdopieralski: Does it make sense to keep the original behavior (i.e., keep_dict=False), or is it better to use different name? | 14:55 |
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rdopieralski | amotoki: either way would be fine, I think, as override_settings(keep_dict=True) would also hint at what's different | 14:57 |
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amotoki | rdopieralski: thanks. Agree It is important to keep the default behavior to avoid confusion. | 14:58 |
amotoki | rdopieralski: It allows all codes to use either override_settings both from horizon and django. It makes sense. | 14:59 |
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