Monday, 2014-09-01

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weigreenhello, i install icehouce release. and i found out that when i open instance's detail console tab and i got the Failed to connect to server (code: 1006) error05:41
weigreenbut when i open  "Click here to show only console" and the vpn work05:42
weigreeni had checked the log. it doesn't have error05:43
weigreenhave someone have this problem?05:43
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nikunj2512Hi10:35
nikunj2512I am working on this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/126028110:36
nikunj2512and i have some questions related to this bug10:36
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rdopieralskinikunj2512: you meanie10:45
rdopieralskinikunj2512: you tease us telling us you have questions10:46
rdopieralskinikunj2512: but you never ask them :(10:46
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nikunj2512rdopieralski: i was waiting for someone to reply :)10:47
nikunj2512So, in this bug it is mentioned that some things are broken10:47
nikunj2512but from my inspection, i am seeing that whole horizon is broken in IE=1110:48
rdopieralskinikunj2512: there is a tradition on IRC to just ask the question right away, it saves time10:48
nikunj2512I have uploaded some screenshots on the bug page for everyone to take a look10:48
nikunj2512ohh... Ok :)10:48
nikunj2512Will You be kind enough to take a look at them and tell me your views10:49
nikunj2512??10:49
rdopieralskinikunj2512: what is the question again?10:49
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nikunj2512In this bug it is mentioned that some parts of Horizon UI are broken for IE >810:50
nikunj2512but during my testing with IE=11, whole horizon UI is broken10:51
nikunj2512So, in this case what i should do??10:51
nikunj2512Will i fix css for IE or investigate further, to see why it is broken??10:51
mrungeI'd say: the latter10:52
mrungedo a real instead of a quick fix10:52
nikunj2512mrunge: i also want to do a real fix than a quick fix but as you see from one of comments which tells what parts of UI are broken10:54
rdopieralskiI would guess that there is something in the css that msie considers a syntax error, and then it ignores the rest10:54
rdopieralskibut it's wild guessing10:54
mrungeI even could imagine, we're using features, IE does not support at all10:55
nikunj2512It says that most of the UI renders fine but with IE 11 i am seeing everything is broken10:55
mrungenikunj2512, you're looking at Juno version? The report is back from Havana or earlier10:55
mrungenikunj2512, I'd expect to be more broken, now with more JavaScript and more styling in place10:56
nikunj2512mrunge, Yes i am looking for Juno version10:56
nikunj2512Ok10:56
nikunj2512So, good approach will be this: find out why things are broken in IE and then fix them?10:57
nikunj2512Is this correct??10:57
rdopieralskiyup10:58
rdopieralskiwell, I can tell you why things are broken in IE10:58
rdopieralskiit's the development process and broken management at Microsoft10:58
rdopieralskibut I don't think we can fix that easily upstream ;)10:59
rdopieralskiso the second best thing that we can do is to find the things that trip it up and work around them11:00
rdopieralskithe fewer workarounds we need, though, the better11:00
nikunj2512rdopieralski: ok11:00
nikunj2512rdopieralski: So i will start looking on each component of Horizon and try to fix the issues11:01
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nikunj2512rdopieralski: I have one more question11:04
nikunj2512For example if most of the things works in IE11 will it be alright to say that horizon will work best in IE>=1111:05
nikunj2512??11:05
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nikunj2512In the Horizon compatibility matrix we can say that we only support IE>=11, if most of this works there and other things can be fixed with minimal changes>?11:06
rdopieralskithat's for the ptl to decide11:06
nikunj2512Ok11:07
mrungeI remember, we had a session back in Atlanta, and we said, we'll support the latest version of IE, which runs on XP(?)11:07
mrungeand that'll be IE9?11:07
nikunj2512I think so11:07
nikunj2512If we have to support IE 9 it will be a lot of pain11:08
mrungeyes, agreed11:08
mrungeif it's broken on ie, we should encourage users to switch to sane software11:08
* mrunge runs away11:09
nikunj2512Yes, You are right11:09
mrungeso nikunj2512 , it's a heavy task, you're taking here11:09
nikunj2512Actually i already have a patch for review to check the versions of different browsers and to notify the user to upgrade it11:10
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rdopieralskiugh, that's wrong :(11:10
nikunj2512rdopieralski: what is wrong?11:10
rdopieralskiwe can't be telling users what to use11:10
mrungenikunj2512, that'd require to update horizon for each release of any browser11:11
nikunj2512Yes but it will atleast inform the user that there browser is not supported and they should update it11:12
mrungenikunj2512, what about companies with tight restrictions?11:12
nikunj2512And i don't think we will need to change the browser versions very frequently with each release of horizon11:12
mrungetheir users would see that warning each time11:12
nikunj2512mrunge: most of the companies atleast support the IE and they don't restrict there employees from upgrading there browser versions11:14
nikunj2512Yes, i think that will be correct because we should remind user that this product will not work best on the current browser and they should upgrade it11:14
nikunj2512Anyhow this is my view others views may differ. I just want to bring this version checking functionality in the horizon, so that it will be helpful for end-users to figure out why things are not rendering properly and which versions they should use11:16
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rdopieralskinikunj2512: the users are not the ones who should see that warning, it's the admins, so the warning should go to the install docs11:18
nikunj2512rdopieralski: Ok11:21
nikunj2512But it is also possible that both admins and users might be at different locations and admins might forget to mention to the users which browser version to use and then it will be problem for the user to again go back to admin and to ask them for the browser compatibility matrix11:23
nikunj2512And if users are also able to see the warning message and if they can able to update there browsers, they will do it themselves without been dependant upon others11:24
rdopieralskithe users can see the docs too, and that's a lot of ifs :)11:24
rdopieralskiwe can't annoy users with useless messages11:24
nikunj2512rdopieralski: Ok11:25
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mflobowe need reviewrs for this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63678/11:53
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mrungemflobo, cool, if you could review those here? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/horizon,n,z12:00
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tnovacikdkorn, Hi, do you have a sec?14:35
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tnovacikvokhrimenko_, Hi, do you have a sec?14:36
vokhrimenko_hi yes14:36
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tnovacikvokhrimenko_, you have changed by accident(probably) topic on my patches, could you please change it back and possibly avoid modifying foreign patches in future? :-P :-)14:37
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vokhrimenko_Sorry, it was by mistake14:40
tnovacikvokhrimenko_, of course, it is alright, but will you please change it back ? :D14:41
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tsufievtnovacik, this is my fault as well - I told vokhrimenko_ to rebase your patches locally, but forgot that this will lead to modifying your changes in gerrit14:43
tsufievtnovacik, unfortunately it seems that person who was not the initial commit's author is able to change only the commit message, but not the topic branch14:44
tsufievat least, I can't, suppose that the same is true for vokhrimenko_ also14:45
tnovaciktsufiev, strange, i have talked to infra guys about this and they told me that anyone is allowed to do anything :D14:45
tnovaciktsufiev, anyway i ll change it back14:45
tsufievtnovacik, perhaps it is true for core reviewers, but not for us :). Again, will be more careful in the future, sorry for unintentional bug theft14:48
amotokirdopieralski: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114051/9/openstack_dashboard/test/helpers.py, you are suggesting to use another name.14:54
amotokirdopieralski: Does it make sense to keep the original behavior (i.e., keep_dict=False), or is it better to use different name?14:55
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rdopieralskiamotoki: either way would be fine, I think, as override_settings(keep_dict=True) would also hint at what's different14:57
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amotokirdopieralski: thanks. Agree It is important to keep the default behavior to avoid confusion.14:58
amotokirdopieralski: It allows all codes to use either override_settings both from horizon and django. It makes sense.14:59
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