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| hhuang | Hello, I have a document-related patch which needs approval from core reviewers. Is it okay to ping them via emails or better to post request here? | 10:43 |
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| hhuang | I have another patch to fix ux related issue which needs verification. Can anyone kindly help to download the patch and test it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67315/ | 10:48 |
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| mrunge | hhuang, neither, nor | 10:51 |
| mrunge | hhuang, we're pretty aware of time constraints. nagging core reviewers here or via email doesn't help with limited bandwith | 10:52 |
| mrunge | hhuang, sorry for those harsh words | 10:52 |
| hhuang | mrunge, oh, I'm sorry that I'm pretty new here in the openstack community. Okay, so once I commit my patch, it's better to wait for reviewers to verify the result. Does it sound right? | 10:57 |
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| rdopieralski | hhuang: indeed | 11:00 |
| rdopieralski | hhuang: but you don't have to wait doing nothing -- you can help reviewing other patches to speed it up a little bit | 11:00 |
| mrunge | +1 rdopieralski | 11:01 |
| mrunge | hhuang, every patch you review reduces load on cores | 11:01 |
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| hhuang | Great! thank you both for the good advise. I'm going to leave my patches and work on other bugs or review some patches. Cheers! | 11:05 |
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| hhuang | Hi, one simple question here. | 12:30 |
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| hhuang | After I submitted a new bug, do I have to wait for other developers or reviewers to give comments or do something before I can start working on the patch to the bug I reported? | 12:30 |
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| rbertram | hhuang: No, you can work on a patch anytime. | 12:33 |
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| hhuang | Okay, cool. thanks a lot for your reply, rbertram! | 12:34 |
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| rbertram | rdopieralski: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84531/ ("fallback client-side pagination") had a problem because it used a jquery.tablesorter that was uplevel. Was that because Debian (?) has to use the same version of tablesorter that Horizon uses? If so, why? | 12:40 |
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| rdopieralski | rbertram: I don't understand, can you rephrase? | 12:53 |
| rbertram | rdopieralski: Sorry. What was the problem with using a new version of tablesorter? | 12:56 |
| rdopieralski | rbertram: there is no probalem with using a new version of tablesorter. | 12:58 |
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| rdopieralski | rbertram: I commented on that patch, I hope it explains the issue | 13:00 |
| rbertram | rdopieralski: Thanks for comment. I had heard https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84531/ was out of Juno because Debian would not move to a new version of tablesorter, and I didn't understand that. | 13:02 |
| rbertram | rdopieralski: So it's just normal requirements process, like I went through for datepicker. | 13:03 |
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| rdopieralski | rbertram: yes, the thing is, requirements are frozen already | 13:04 |
| rdopieralski | rbertram: you need a high priority bug to upgrade anything | 13:04 |
| rbertram | rdopieralski: Then this was just a timing problem, not a technical blocker. | 13:04 |
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| rdopieralski | rbertram: we don't even know if there is also a technical blocker, because the packagers didn't even get a chance to look at it -- they will when there is a patch to global requirements for that version | 13:05 |
| rdopieralski | rbertram: they might block that patch then | 13:05 |
| rdopieralski | but we don't know | 13:05 |
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| rbertram | rdopieralski: OK, thanks. | 13:06 |
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| tsufiev | gary-smith, would it make sense to target https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1263665 for Juno RC1 ? Fix is ready, while the test for it is a bit dirty | 13:51 |
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| sambetts | amotoki: ping In this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122135/ would keeping the label as 'Admin State' but still maintaining the more human readable selection and help_text, be a neater solution? | 14:21 |
| amotoki | sambetts: pong | 14:22 |
| sambetts | amotoki: Hi! | 14:22 |
| amotoki | sambetts: sorry that I dropped so negative feedback to your review. | 14:22 |
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| amotoki | sambetts: Keeping "Admin State" sounds good to me. UP/DOWN also sounds good. | 14:23 |
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| amotoki | sambetts: I agree that the checkbox is sometimes not friendly and not easy to understand. | 14:24 |
| sambetts | amotoki: If I change it back to 'Admin State' are there any other concerns you would have that I can address in the process? | 14:25 |
| amotoki | sambetts: another concern is consistency across neturon resources. | 14:25 |
| sambetts | amotoki: so I should extend the change to cover subnets, ports and routers? | 14:26 |
| amotoki | sambetts: IMHO it is better to make the change to all similar resources at once. | 14:26 |
| amotoki | sambetts: "subnets" does not have "admin_state_up" attr. | 14:26 |
| amotoki | sambetts: Almost all neutron resources have admin_state_up field (inlcuding LBaaS, FWaaS, VPNaaS). | 14:27 |
| sambetts | ok, all resources that do have that attribute I'll make sure their consistant with the choice field | 14:27 |
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| amotoki | sambetts: I prefer the direction you proposed. Sorry that I forgot to mention it. | 14:28 |
| amotoki | sambetts: we are in the last phase of the release, so we need to consider the consistency across panels. It is important from UX perspective. | 14:29 |
| sambetts | amotoki: I agree completely, I hadn't realised the sub-resource also had a admin_state, I'll ensure constistancy | 14:30 |
| amotoki | sambetts: on the other hand, i dont mind adding new strings since the number is small (from translator perspective). | 14:31 |
| amotoki | sambetts: thanks for raising this up. | 14:32 |
| sambetts | amotoki: Do UP and DOWN needed to be _("UP") and _("DOWN")? I wasn't sure as they seemed to be related to the API | 14:34 |
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| amotoki | sambetts: it is a difficult choice. At now UP/DOWN in the detail page are not marked as translatable. | 14:36 |
| amotoki | sambetts: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/horizon/tree/openstack_dashboard/api/neutron.py#n73 | 14:36 |
| sambetts | amotoki: Ok, I'll leave them as untranslated for now then | 14:38 |
| amotoki | sambetts: i think it is better to clean up them at once. I can clean up all of them in a separate patch which moves handling of admin_state_up to NeutronAPIDictWrapper. | 14:39 |
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| amotoki | sambetts: you can add a comment "TODO(amotoki): make UP/DOWN translatable" :-) | 14:39 |
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| thiagop | Hello guys, quick question: do we have specs for horizon already? If I want to propose an interface change on a single dashboard, do I need a spec or a blueprint is enough? | 14:53 |
| crobertsrh | thiagop: currently only blueprints | 14:55 |
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| thiagop | crobertsrh: thanks for the answer! | 14:55 |
| crobertsrh | np, welcome to horizon :) | 14:55 |
| amotoki | thiagop: spec repo is not used for horizon now. Blueprints with detail description would be appreciated. | 15:00 |
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| amotoki | thiagop: we are discussing a template for blueprint proposal to clarify what a blueprint tries to complete. | 15:01 |
| ericpeterson | david-lyle: we had some discussion around endpoint urls for identity.... I *think* this is what we want https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122174/ everyone else can chip in their $.02 as well | 15:02 |
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| thiagop | amotoki: that's a very good idea. My belief is that any template has a "don't forget to think about that" effect. | 15:03 |
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| amotoki | thiagop: Half (?) of current horizon blueprints have only one or two lines :-( | 15:06 |
| thiagop | amotoki: Maybe that's because they doesn't have the remote idea in what implications to think about when proposing a change. | 15:07 |
| thiagop | amotoki: I still don't have, and I'm working with OS for more than six months now | 15:08 |
| amotoki | thiagop: good to know. I believe you got many useful experiences this six months or more :-) | 15:09 |
| amotoki | A blueprint have two aspects: the one is a proposal of some feature. The other is someone declares he/she wants to work on the topic. | 15:10 |
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| amotoki | it is a difficult balance for folks who don't have concrete direction in their mind... | 15:11 |
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| thiagop | amotoki: It's a large project. A newcomer cannot think about all possible impacts of a change, but a guidance could help. | 15:14 |
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| thiagop | amotoki: On Keystone's blueprint template, there is a lot of questions to think about. We could learn with and adapt what they are done. | 15:15 |
| amotoki | thiagop: yeah, I understand and agree. | 15:16 |
| amotoki | thiagop: At least what he/she wants to achieve is helpful for constructive discussion including approaches, directions and so on. | 15:16 |
| amotoki | Templates give us a chance to think about more than an initial thought :-) | 15:17 |
| thiagop | sure | 15:17 |
| thiagop | lblanchard: Hi! I have something for you to take a look. Can I send to you by e-mail? | 15:18 |
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| thiagop | lblanchard: It's a PoC for an identity dashboard adapted to deal with hierarchies of projects. I'd like a UX opinion if it's viable or a piece of garbage... | 15:19 |
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| thiagop | amotoki: sure | 15:25 |
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| lblanchard | thiagop: hey there! Sure…I am getting ready to be on leave for 3 months just so you know :) But if it's a small thing, I'm happy to take a look and give thoughts! Feel free to e-mail lblanchard@redhat.com. Otherwise you might want to ping jcoufal to see if he has time to review! | 16:04 |
| jcoufal | thiagop: happy to help | 16:05 |
| lblanchard | jcoufal: thanks :) | 16:06 |
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| thiagop | lblanchard: its just your opinion on the design. Will take just 1 or 2min of your time. But I'll copy jcoufal also. :) | 17:11 |
| lblanchard | thiagop: sounds great! | 17:12 |
| thiagop | jcoufal: can I have your e-mail (in private, if you want)? | 17:14 |
| jcoufal | thiagop: jcoufal@redhat.com ;) | 17:14 |
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| thiagop | lblanchard jcoufal: sent | 17:26 |
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| ericpeterson | thanks doug-fish, amended checkin at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122174/ :D | 21:42 |
| ericpeterson | good find / idea | 21:42 |
| doug-fish | I wanted to say something wasn't "pythonic" :-) | 21:43 |
| ericpeterson | mission accomplished | 21:43 |
| doug-fish | It took quite a while to understand what you'd done and how that code worked. | 21:43 |
| doug-fish | Harassing you was kind of my reward for a job well done! | 21:43 |
| ericpeterson | yeah, I seem to find those parts of the code base to work on | 21:43 |
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