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openstackgerrit | Miguel Grinberg proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Honor selected stack template and environment sources https://review.openstack.org/123615 | 02:07 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Fixing template syntax https://review.openstack.org/129028 | 03:32 |
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openstackgerrit | LIU Yulong proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Make no response notification(msg) level to INFO https://review.openstack.org/117718 | 04:07 |
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openstackgerrit | LIU Yulong proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Make no response notification(msg) level to INFO https://review.openstack.org/117718 | 06:00 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/129138 | 06:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Jiri Tomasek proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Restyled sidebar to resemble UX guidelines https://review.openstack.org/126289 | 06:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Do not log keystone token https://review.openstack.org/128859 | 07:11 |
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mrunge | amotoki, did you change anything for your review https://review.openstack.org/128859 ? | 07:31 |
amotoki_ | mrunge: I just resolved a conflict. | 07:31 |
mrunge | amotoki, ah ok. thanks. viewing diffs between patch sets would be a great feature for gerrit | 07:32 |
amotoki_ | mrunge: for more detail, L.160-162 at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128859/1..2/openstack_dashboard/api/keystone.py | 07:32 |
amotoki_ | This diff caused the conflict. | 07:33 |
mrunge | amotoki, thank you | 07:33 |
openstackgerrit | Matthias Runge proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Refactor metering dashboard https://review.openstack.org/107011 | 07:34 |
amotoki_ | mrunge: when a diff between patch sets, I first reivew all files in the current set, then see diffs from a previous version and look for review mark. | 07:35 |
amotoki_ | mrunge: review marks help me to find related files :-) | 07:35 |
mrunge | amotoki, neat. I mostly just look at latest patch set, and previous comments | 07:36 |
mrunge | but it's quite easy to get lost there | 07:36 |
lhcheng | mrunge: Using the "Reference Version:" in gerrit should help you see diffs between patch set no? | 07:39 |
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amotoki_ | lhcheng: could you check my response to your comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127642/ ? I think MultipleTimes is not needed in this case. | 07:50 |
lhcheng | amotoki: checking... | 07:51 |
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lhcheng | amotoki: looks good, changed my review | 08:00 |
amotoki_ | lhcheng: thanks! | 08:00 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Change django message storage backends default. https://review.openstack.org/101791 | 08:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Karikh proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Remove admin role name 'admin' hardcode https://review.openstack.org/123741 | 08:16 |
openstackgerrit | Jiri Tomasek proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Modal fixes - 2 columns, padding, header, membership https://review.openstack.org/113519 | 08:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Karikh proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Remove admin role name 'admin' hardcode https://review.openstack.org/123741 | 08:18 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/129138 | 08:27 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Do not log keystone token https://review.openstack.org/128859 | 09:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Sayali Lunkad proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Removes term inconsistency in the dashboard https://review.openstack.org/73222 | 10:00 |
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zigo | MaxV: Are you around? | 10:11 |
MaxV | zigo: yes? | 10:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Pass correct project ID to get tenant_usages https://review.openstack.org/129037 | 10:16 |
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jpich | Did flake8 always take so much CPU when running before? It's taking up 90% of my CPU lately which is pretty noticeable, slowdown wise... | 10:36 |
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lifeless | jpich: recent upgrade to it gave it parallelisation | 10:41 |
lifeless | jpich: so its now using more cores probably; always been slow :) | 10:41 |
jpich | lifeless: Aah that may well be related indeed :-) Thank you! | 10:42 |
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akrivoka | hello Horizoners! please take some time to review this bp which should significantly improve our dev process: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/template | 11:22 |
akrivoka | I also feel this deserves an email on the mailing list... just to get more opinions | 11:23 |
openstackgerrit | Swati Shukla proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Confirm Dialog for Delete operation https://review.openstack.org/128873 | 11:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Masco Kaliyamoorthy proposed a change to openstack/horizon: cancel next previous buttons are aligned properly https://review.openstack.org/129212 | 11:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Disable router HA attribute due to Neutron bug https://review.openstack.org/128341 | 12:51 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Restrict the length of user name input https://review.openstack.org/128819 | 13:00 |
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thiagop | sambetts: Hello! | 13:06 |
sambetts | thiagop: Hi! | 13:10 |
thiagop | I'm taking care of some docs here to end my sprint. When you want to continue discussing that matter of yesterday, ping me please (I assume that we're going to wait for David and Eric) | 13:11 |
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jpich | doug-fish: Thanks for following up on that network topology i18n issue! I had just noticed it missed Juno. I think it'll be safe to backport too (since the strings aren't translated currently anyway...)... so my secret plan is to do just that | 13:17 |
doug-fish | jpich: sneaky! | 13:17 |
doug-fish | I notice that you defined the problem slightly larger than I did | 13:17 |
jpich | If we give a heads-up to the i18n team then, hopefully some will be happy to translate for the stable release :) | 13:17 |
jpich | doug-fish: That's what I do? lol | 13:17 |
jpich | Partial-Fix are super welcome too | 13:18 |
jpich | feel free to unassign yourself if you don't have time to look into the rest once your own patch merges | 13:18 |
doug-fish | yeah, I was just sorting out if I was going got try to fix the whole thing or just the part I initially noticed | 13:18 |
jpich | Thank you! Either way, same author or not, multiple patches are ok :-) | 13:19 |
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jpich | certainly do not let me stop you from fixing All The Things | 13:19 |
doug-fish | jpich: sure, sounds good. Thanks for keeping us coordinated! Sometimes I wonder if people even look for an existing bug report before they open a new one. I'm really not sure how I missed that one! | 13:20 |
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jpich | doug-fish: The launchpad search is not very good unfortunately :( | 13:21 |
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doug-fish | yes! let's blame the tools! | 13:21 |
doug-fish | because there is _no way_ that it was my fault. :-) | 13:21 |
tsufiev | thiagop, hi! I've studied your policy PoC. Couldn't the Keystone provide the same rules for other services as he does for himself? | 13:21 |
jpich | doug-fish: Now I'm not sure that's quite what I said ;) | 13:23 |
doug-fish | haha! | 13:23 |
* tsufiev wonders whether it was meant for all Openstack projects to migrate to Storyboard eventually | 13:25 | |
jpich | tsufiev: I believe that's the end goal, as we've hit some of the limits of Launchpad for our needs already | 13:26 |
tsufiev | jpich, let's hope the end goal arrives earlier than the Last Day :) | 13:28 |
jpich | That sounds very dramatic :-) | 13:28 |
jpich | tsufiev: I hope there's a "state of storyboard" session at the Summit, I haven't looked at the schedule yet. Are you aware of how far they've come? I haven't looked at the project in a while | 13:28 |
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jpich | Ok! | 13:30 |
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thiagop | tsufiev: Good day. Sure it can, that's one of the main ideas behind the endpoint policy: you can set a policy for cinder, and the cinder itself will have to ask keystone for his policy | 14:07 |
thiagop | tsufiev: If you have more than a cinder service in your stack, they can share the same policy and so on... | 14:07 |
amotoki_ | FYI: devstack patch which compiles message catalogs is now approved and in the gate. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128601/ | 14:09 |
amotoki_ | you can always see up-to-date translations during dev cycle. | 14:09 |
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tsufiev | jpich, one of StoryBoard devs told me 'it will be possible to migrate to StoryBoard once it has support for milestone/branches and user groups'. Anyways, there should be discussion at Summit when it will be possible | 14:17 |
sambetts | thiagop: Do you know what timezone dave and eric are in, because I won't be a run as late into my evening as I did yesterday | 14:18 |
tsufiev | thiagop, then it may be worth to reflect it in the PoC 'cause from what I've seen it looks like a feature supported only for Keystone service | 14:19 |
thiagop | sambetts: no, sorry. :/ | 14:19 |
jpich | tsufiev: Sounds like they might be still far then. Thanks! | 14:20 |
thiagop | tsufiev: my idea was, once the policies for each service is loaded in the endpoint, is just a matter of setting the correct URI's for each policy on POLICY_FILES | 14:21 |
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thiagop | tsufiev: if the service itself isn't yet ready to use the endpoint, the config can remain on the policy copy on Horizon | 14:22 |
jpich | amotoki: Great, thank you!! That will avoid confusion, some people have been filing bugs about missing translations :) | 14:22 |
tsufiev | thiagop, ah, got it! Once, say cinder, supports it, we could use the same OS_ENPOINT_POLICY value for the 'volume' endpoint and the '%(endpoint_id)s' will be interpolated to the cinder's one and cinder will get its policies from keystone (given they're already loaded there), right? | 14:26 |
thiagop | tsufiev: exactly | 14:27 |
tsufiev | thiagop, i like it | 14:27 |
thiagop | tsufiev: :D | 14:27 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Fish proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Make labels in Network Topology translatable https://review.openstack.org/129277 | 14:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Pass correct project ID to get tenant_usages https://review.openstack.org/129037 | 14:35 |
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krotscheck | tsufiev: There may be. | 16:05 |
krotscheck | And the state of storyboard is: “Effectively I’m the only person that’s working on it, so don’t get your hopes up.” | 16:05 |
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lhcheng | hi ericpeterson | 16:29 |
ericpeterson | hey lhcheng | 16:30 |
ericpeterson | any updates on cookie session overflows ;) ? | 16:30 |
ericpeterson | or let's just give up and go to a db backend :D | 16:31 |
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lhcheng | nope, I was hoping you guys already figured that out. | 16:34 |
ericpeterson | keep hoping :p | 16:34 |
lhcheng | moving to file/db backend seems okay, in production deployment the operator needs to do it anyway. | 16:34 |
ericpeterson | right now I have a one off patch to get my deployment going, but I'd really hope community can address this more completely | 16:34 |
lhcheng | one-off to use a db backend? | 16:35 |
ericpeterson | one-off by not storing the allowed flags in the session | 16:35 |
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lhcheng | hmm thought we | 16:36 |
ericpeterson | I will be moving to a db backed session soon, and at that point it becomes a non issue for me.... but it still is going to be an issue for many people getting started | 16:36 |
lhcheng | *we'll revert it until a solution has been decided | 16:36 |
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lhcheng | ? | 16:37 |
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ericpeterson | that would be ok with me, but I'm not the orig author. that change had other things included also | 16:37 |
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sambetts | ericpeterson: My vote is to change the default to a sqlite backend, that seems to be the neatest solution thats not just a bandaid for the issues | 16:43 |
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sambetts | david-lyle, thiagop ^ | 16:49 |
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ericpeterson | yep, sambetts. I am not strongly opposed or in favor. I am mildly opposed to keeping that stuff on the session. my vote is -0.124980 | 16:52 |
ericpeterson | I spent a lot of time on that math ;) | 16:52 |
ericpeterson | I can see both sides | 16:52 |
lhcheng | sambetts: question on the patch, when does session['allowed']['valid_for'] get initially set? | 16:53 |
lhcheng | https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/horizon/base.py#L63 | 16:53 |
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ericpeterson | the keyerror section does that lhcheng | 16:53 |
ericpeterson | session['allowed'] = {"valid_for": session.get('token')} | 16:53 |
david-lyle | line 66 | 16:53 |
ericpeterson | it's just a bit weird to read the dict with two different methods of adding the key | 16:54 |
lhcheng | ugh | 16:55 |
david-lyle | non-obvious | 16:55 |
lhcheng | david-lyle: didn't notice that, raise an error to set a value | 16:55 |
david-lyle | yeah | 16:55 |
ericpeterson | could use something like test for is in or something would be a bit clearer | 16:55 |
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sambetts | I did have a different solution in an earlier patch set than the one that merged, but one of the cores suggested that | 16:56 |
ericpeterson | but it works | 16:56 |
david-lyle | of course they did ;) | 16:56 |
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lhcheng | sambetts: and after session['allowed']['valid_for'] is set, where is it used? | 16:58 |
lhcheng | sambetts: the cache used is in session['allowed'][key] | 16:58 |
lhcheng | sambetts: what am I missing? | 16:58 |
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ericpeterson | session['allowed'][key] = func(self, context) | 16:59 |
ericpeterson | that is used elsewhere. and the func is called later on, cached as needed | 17:00 |
ericpeterson | the valid_for key is really just testing existence, it seems | 17:00 |
lhcheng | "key" is the classname of the panel? | 17:00 |
sambetts | lhcheng: in the except KeyError it completely wipes the whole cache and resets it with the new allowed token | 17:00 |
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lhcheng | sambetts: ah, got it now | 17:01 |
sambetts | the valid_for is only used to decide whether or not to invalidate the cache and therefore wipe it | 17:01 |
ericpeterson | I am using this patch, http://paste.openstack.org/show/121487/ which seems like something similar | 17:01 |
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ericpeterson | and simpler / doesn't overflow the cookie space | 17:02 |
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ericpeterson | but I would not be suprised if it is slightly slower | 17:02 |
sambetts | surly the problem with memoizing it is that it could lead to cross talk between sessions? | 17:03 |
ericpeterson | I think it never even memoizes, b/c it uses the unique context.... which varies from request to request | 17:04 |
ericpeterson | I think | 17:04 |
ericpeterson | taking out the memoize might be even more clear / safer | 17:04 |
ericpeterson | the allowed checks are pretty simple / lightweight in most cases anyways | 17:04 |
lhcheng | yeah, the memoized doesn't really help. since it only caches per request, and per request can_access is probably only called once per panel :) | 17:06 |
sambetts | the cache was to simply reduce the amount of network spam that occured when an allowed/can_access check hits an API for verifcation | 17:06 |
lhcheng | you'll probably end up just consuming extra memory | 17:06 |
sambetts | can_access checks that happen locally aren't to much of an issue, but ones that perform API requests were | 17:07 |
lhcheng | sambetts: I understand. I was referring to the ducttape of ericpeterson to get around the issue. | 17:08 |
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ericpeterson | agreed, but caching in that case also introduce new issues of being out of date. (if we cache to prevent network calls) | 17:08 |
ericpeterson | I'd rather have those allowed checks figure out if they need caching and have a common approach at a lower level maybe..... might be another approach | 17:09 |
ericpeterson | like some new util function or something, or a decorator | 17:09 |
david-lyle | if we memoized anything, it should be the API call itself | 17:09 |
david-lyle | not the high level wrapper | 17:09 |
ericpeterson | yeah, thats even better | 17:09 |
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sambetts | ericpeterson: A previous patch I had, had the decorator as something that got added by whoever was writing the can_access method, but amotoki decided that added more work for those extending horizon component | 17:10 |
sambetts | thats why its in the form it is now, with the allowed and the can_access function | 17:11 |
sambetts | heres the review with the evolution of the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120790/ | 17:12 |
ericpeterson | yeah, I think the difference is that amotoki was thinking that having a global cache for the allowed stuff was a good idea, and we are not all in agreement. If we agree that it should be cached, then I'd be on the same page with you 2 | 17:13 |
ericpeterson | but right now we are contemplating if that is correct or not, or even the best thing to be doing | 17:14 |
ericpeterson | I'm not a core also, so amotoki counts more than I do :) | 17:15 |
sambetts | I think the concern is that it happens for every page load that rebuilds the nav bar, tbh if we're moving towards a more angular based approach then I would expect the number of full page reloads to greatly reduce anyway | 17:16 |
david-lyle | sambetts, that's certainly the hope, but we need to make it widely usable in the sorter term | 17:16 |
david-lyle | what we have now blows up in real deployments | 17:17 |
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sambetts | also there was someone who was hoping that having a cache like that would provide an easy way to mock out which panels are displayed | 17:17 |
amotoki_ | I have not followed the whole discussion you all are discussing here... what I asked sambetts in the past review is to clarify what is cached and what are not, and to avoid forcing subclass to ensure the decorator. | 17:17 |
amotoki_ | ericpeterson: you don't need to mind discussing. I am not a superman :-) | 17:17 |
david-lyle | amotoki_, you're too humble ;) | 17:18 |
ericpeterson | amotoki_: yeah, I think that point / question was good. and you pay more attention to the changes than I do | 17:18 |
ericpeterson | I just know when stuff breaks :D | 17:18 |
ericpeterson | breaking things is something I should be famous for | 17:19 |
david-lyle | it's good to have a core strength | 17:19 |
ericpeterson | indeed. I just feel threatened when other people break stuff first, before I can get to it | 17:19 |
sambetts | haha | 17:20 |
thiagop | hahah | 17:20 |
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thiagop | I'm back | 17:20 |
david-lyle | I think we're likely to see the session size continue to grow, so I'm in favor of a db based session store by default, but I'm still not sure caching panel access is beneficial | 17:22 |
thiagop | amotoki_: if you want some context: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1382079 | 17:22 |
david-lyle | memoizing API calls yes | 17:22 |
david-lyle | if this is an optimization for testing, then I think we need to focus on testing implementation rather than adding complexity to support testing | 17:23 |
sambetts | So my stand point at this stage is that I can see that a lot of improvments/optimizations need to be made the caching (if its kept in) and then the session backend needs to change to a more sutiable storage solution | 17:23 |
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david-lyle | sambetts, I'd like to see part two for sure. I think we can provide a much better user experience if we take that route | 17:25 |
ericpeterson | which panels make network calls for can_access stuff??? | 17:25 |
david-lyle | L3 networking can be disabled which hides Routers | 17:25 |
ericpeterson | because those panels could add memoization right away, to provide another level of caching | 17:25 |
david-lyle | host aggregate is an extension, that may or may not be turned on | 17:25 |
sambetts | LBaas and Firewall too | 17:26 |
david-lyle | Firewalls, VPNs, LBaaS are all optional | 17:26 |
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ericpeterson | and once those are cached, then we could maybe pull alot of this patch and simplify it | 17:26 |
ericpeterson | would that be acceptable? we'd have the cache, and also simplify the session stuff | 17:26 |
david-lyle | network extension support is already memoized IIRC | 17:27 |
ericpeterson | you mean it just works™ ? | 17:27 |
david-lyle | nova extension support API call should be too | 17:27 |
david-lyle | but not sure should == is at this point | 17:27 |
ericpeterson | I am 95% nova extension supports that, I might have added it | 17:27 |
ericpeterson | sambetts what do you think about ensuring we memoize the network calls, then simplify this patch??? | 17:28 |
david-lyle | https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/api/nova.py#L832 | 17:28 |
david-lyle | it is | 17:28 |
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sambetts | my concern with memomizing all those requests is having the developers remember to add them when they extend the APIs | 17:29 |
sambetts | but thats a technicallity | 17:30 |
thiagop | let me just as a question: for what I understand of memoize just returns the same result when all arguments passed are equal to the ones used in the call before. Doesn't "request" always change? | 17:31 |
ericpeterson | and memoizing / caching is something we add when pain point arrise | 17:31 |
amotoki_ | thiagop: thanks. Does the problem occur only when we use cookie-based session? | 17:31 |
ericpeterson | it does, but sometimes we call the same api 5 times in the same request | 17:31 |
ericpeterson | amotoki_ yes, db backed sessions do not have this problem | 17:32 |
thiagop | amotoki_: yep. It doesn't occurs with cache/file/cached_db backends | 17:32 |
sambetts | amotoki_: issues occur when combining this patch, keystone v3 and cookies | 17:32 |
ericpeterson | we use v2 tokens | 17:32 |
thiagop | amotoki_: since they doesn't have a fixed lenght... | 17:32 |
amotoki_ | hmm... if so, the problem occurs when we have more keystone endpoints. | 17:32 |
ericpeterson | if you have a fairly full svc catalog, and multiple regions.... it gets big | 17:33 |
amotoki_ | can_access cache reveals the potential issue just earlier. | 17:33 |
thiagop | many projects... | 17:33 |
ericpeterson | yep | 17:33 |
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amotoki_ | I am not sure what is a good assumption or requirement.. A first big question is whether we need to support cookie-based session or not. | 17:35 |
sambetts | I think SQLite is a perfectly good alternative to cookie based system, from talking yesterday we only use cookies as the default for convience in devstack | 17:36 |
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amotoki_ | i see. Anyway we need to clear session cache when a token is refreshed. If it is handled properly, I think using SQlite backend is not a problem because cache is cleared when user is logged in to a re-run devstack. | 17:40 |
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sambetts | I must head offline now as its nearly 18:45 where I am, but summarizing my thoughts: 1) Swap to SQLite as the default session store because cookies are going to become a pain point sooner or later, 2) Maybe re-work caching to operate at a lower level to reduce the quantity of requests made to the other services whilst being more explict about what is cached and what isnt | 17:46 |
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thiagop | anybody does have a point in favor of continuing using cookie based sessions? :P | 17:48 |
thiagop | does anybody* | 17:48 |
sambetts | the only one that came up yesterday was for HA but we decided that at that point you'll be running a real DB anyway | 17:49 |
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thiagop | sambetts: +1 | 17:50 |
david-lyle | switching to db backed session store by default should go to the ML | 17:51 |
sambetts | ML? | 17:51 |
david-lyle | dev mailing list | 17:52 |
sambetts | Ah I see, yes :-) | 17:52 |
david-lyle | impacts more than just horizon | 17:52 |
david-lyle | devstack, QA | 17:52 |
david-lyle | operators that may be watching | 17:52 |
david-lyle | would be nice to get feedback on any concerns | 17:53 |
sambetts | +1 | 17:55 |
amotoki_ | +1 | 17:56 |
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sambetts | Good Night Horizon! | 17:59 |
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thiagop | who sends the e-mail to ML? | 18:03 |
david-lyle | I suppose I can | 18:04 |
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thiagop | david-lyle: I think people will give you more attention :) | 18:12 |
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ericpeterson | thiagop I'm good with switching session backends, there will just need to be some communication on how this impacts people | 18:36 |
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esp | hello, anyone run into a django css compressor issue in devstack before? | 22:49 |
esp | FilterError: /bin/sh: 1: django_pyscss.compressor.DjangoScssFilter: not found | 22:50 |
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